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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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 2008-05-30, 05:25
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VerticalSmile 
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Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
So i have recenently gotten "heavily" into vicodin...taking a lot...nearly..everyday..heh
so anyway my tolerance has gone WAY up and it really fucking sucks
2- 7.5mg's used to get me fucked...now i take 5...sometimes more.....
is there anyway to prevent my tolerance...or if i waited 1 day without taking it would it go down?
sorry for the noob question...
i appreciate all the help you can offer
**hypothetical of course**
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#2
 2008-05-30, 06:15
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
It'll be a while before you tolerance really goes down.
1 day isn't going to make a difference really.
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#3
 2008-05-30, 07:12
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
my dads friend was addicted to vics he was popping 15 5-500's at once its a shitty addiction kick it while you can
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#4
 2008-05-30, 07:38
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
vicodins suck...they are americas true gateway drug...get off em while you can.
there is a huge difference being dope sick from hydros, and being junk sick.
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#5
 2008-05-30, 08:16
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
you're taking too much APAP.
my first reccomendation is to reduce you're overall intake. opiate addiction is not a good thing especially once you start moving to stronger opiates.
if you cant stop doing it (or atleast drop down to a couple times per month) then take my second reccomendation:
Start using a CWE to take all of the dangerous APAP out of your hydrocodone.
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#6
 2008-05-30, 12:21
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
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Originally Posted by Aces N 8S
you're taking too much APAP.
my first reccomendation is to reduce you're overall intake. opiate addiction is not a good thing especially once you start moving to stronger opiates.
if you cant stop doing it (or atleast drop down to a couple times per month) then take my second reccomendation:
Start using a CWE to take all of the dangerous APAP out of your hydrocodone.
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I do this very often...what i'm saying is..i have to take 5 now to feel like anything..when i used to have to take 2 and be FUCKED up....
5 now doesn't make me feel like 2 used to
anyway to fix this?
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#7
 2008-05-30, 12:25
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
I do this very often...what i'm saying is..i have to take 5 now to feel like anything..when i used to have to take 2 and be FUCKED up....
5 now doesn't make me feel like 2 used to
anyway to fix this?
Ya, stop for a month or 2.
And next time you do em take a bit of dxm, like 2 doses for a cough worth.
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#8
 2008-05-30, 12:58
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
stop taking vics there recreational value isnt that great
I really dont see how anyone gets kicks from them. The high is unpleasant and the apap isnt worth it. Liver's dont grow back
Personally Give one last finally goodbye take what you have left and take your buisness somewhere else
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#9
 2008-05-30, 13:12
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
actually your liver does grow back
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#10
 2008-05-30, 13:15
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TheGreen007 
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
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Originally Posted by whitelightning
actually your liver does grow back
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I thought it could heal during teen years but after that your not getting much reproduction to any damage?
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#11
 2008-05-30, 14:49
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
yeah...
i only have about 45- 750's left...
heh...
maybe i should quit...
but i love them so much
they are awesome
i would serisouly LOVE herion...i cant ever try that shit
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#12
 2008-05-31, 01:04
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
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Originally Posted by VerticalSmile
So i have recenently gotten "heavily" into vicodin...taking a lot...nearly..everyday..heh
so anyway my tolerance has gone WAY up and it really fucking sucks
2- 7.5mg's used to get me fucked...now i take 5...sometimes more.....
is there anyway to prevent my tolerance...or if i waited 1 day without taking it would it go down?
sorry for the noob question...
i appreciate all the help you can offer
**hypothetical of course**
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It takes alot longer than a day for tolerance to go down. A week you may notice a difference. But it can take months to get back to 0. I would say quit while you can since you are not actually taking a "heavy amount." If you are not getting bad withdrwals just quit cold turkey but you can also make a maintainence scheldule by taking enough per day to keep you out of withdrawal but not enough to relly get you high. The gradually reduce you dose over a like a month. the only way to really get your tolerance down is to quit for a while.
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#13
 2008-05-31, 03:11
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
im on hydrocodone for surgery. you must be crazy if its fun to you.
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#14
 2008-05-31, 03:24
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
heh...
maybe i should quit...
but i love them so much
they are awesome
i would serisouly LOVE herion...i cant ever try that shit
yeah that's what I said
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#15
 2008-05-31, 03:47
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
Okay so i've decided to quit....
i'm going to do my last dose tomorrow since i have 2 gigs to play...and i LOVE being on this shit at shows....
i'm going to sell the rest of my pills
today..i fucking took 10....all CWE of course....but wow...and i just got a decent buzz....NOTHING like the first time i took 2....its so gay....meh...i need to get off this shit...
i quit smoking pot and i guess this was my substitute...
i'm going to start smoking again at bonnaroo (june 12th)
and i've quit for 60 days today being the 60th....
last dose will be tomorrow...i have a show at 6-7:00 and another at 9:30-1:30...
what do you guys recommend i take tommorrow..how much and when
and i'm going to take them tomorrow so..dont say none
thanks for you help and understanding
love you BLTC :)
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#16
 2008-05-31, 04:08
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
Man you all think you got tolerance....
Ican take 7 Norcos - 70mg of hydrocodone - and not even feel it. It hardly dents the pain.
I can take 120mg of morphine andyou'd never know it.
It takes over 200mg of Oxy to get me even close to a nod.
It sure sucks.
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#17
 2008-05-31, 04:39
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
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Originally Posted by Metaphysicist
Man you all think you got tolerance....
Ican take 7 Norcos - 70mg of hydrocodone - and not even feel it. It hardly dents the pain.
I can take 120mg of morphine andyou'd never know it.
It takes over 200mg of Oxy to get me even close to a nod.
It sure sucks.
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wow....that is ridiculous'
yeah...man i thought i had a tolerance...10 has me feeling decent.... 75 mg of hydro..but i did CWE so i definately lost some of the sweet opiate
it is NOTHING like the first dose of hydro....its just fucking ridiculous...i guess this is why people get so addicted...and up their doses..etc...
man..
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#18
 2008-05-31, 05:30
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Making Paper Mache Animals.
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
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Originally Posted by Metaphysicist
Man you all think you got tolerance....
Ican take 7 Norcos - 70mg of hydrocodone - and not even feel it. It hardly dents the pain.
I can take 120mg of morphine andyou'd never know it.
It takes over 200mg of Oxy to get me even close to a nod.
It sure sucks.
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Go to a spine doctor and try some type of alternatives like time released injected Novocaine and go into a medical rehab facility and get all that opiate shit out of your system. It isn't doing anything for you and you may just feel better if you get clean. And, don't say you need it for all the pain, don't have other options, or it wont work. You really should purge your system of the opiates for a year or so and give something else a chance. Even large doses of opiates can fuck with your nerves and make you experience severe pain. I'm betting you already know all this though. Do you see a pain management facility that specializes in the spine?
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#19
 2008-05-31, 05:47
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
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Originally Posted by Metaphysicist
Man you all think you got tolerance....
Ican take 7 Norcos - 70mg of hydrocodone - and not even feel it. It hardly dents the pain.
I can take 120mg of morphine andyou'd never know it.
It takes over 200mg of Oxy to get me even close to a nod.
It sure sucks.
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damn meta, i thought mine was up there...im about the same with the morphine, but if i took 200mgs of oxy, id be nodding out like mad, burning holes in shit with cigs.
I dont bother with hydros anymore, they dont even help with my pain.
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#20
 2008-05-31, 12:09
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
Get off the pain meds while you can. Full blown addiction is the worst thing in the world. I can't believe I went from a dose of around 120mgs of oxycodone a day down to nothing and stayed there without medical help.
I've been hardcore weightlifting for the rush nowadays. I need something pleasureable and extreme to keep myself happy it seems.
Good luck.
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#21
 2008-05-31, 14:08
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Your medicine cabinet
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
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Originally Posted by Metaphysicist
Man you all think you got tolerance....
Ican take 7 Norcos - 70mg of hydrocodone - and not even feel it. It hardly dents the pain.
I can take 120mg of morphine andyou'd never know it.
It takes over 200mg of Oxy to get me even close to a nod.
It sure sucks.
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I can't imagine how you've yet to find a pain management doctor who understood your situation to prescribe something like fentanyl patches to you. You ever tried those for the pain? Do they help? From what I hear from people with monster tolerances and legitimate chronic pain like you have, fentanyl was a godsend for them in terms of analgesic benefit.
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#22
 2008-05-31, 14:11
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
now for a noob in this to post. Yesterday was the first time ive ever taken any kind of pill. (im a smoker) I felt very slightly buzzed after 10 mg of oxycodone so i took 3 more. And 25mg of oxy got me pretty fucked up. Btw can taking 5,5/325 pills be harmful? The other stuff is just tylenol so cant be that bad right?
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#23
 2008-05-31, 14:24
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
Btw can taking 5,5/325 pills be harmful? The other stuff is just tylenol so cant be that bad right?
It can be bad in high doses, but not in the amount that you took. I usually take 2 g of acetaminophen for a headache.
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#24
 2008-06-01, 00:15
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
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Originally Posted by VerticalSmile
So i have recenently gotten "heavily" into vicodin...taking a lot...nearly..everyday..heh
so anyway my tolerance has gone WAY up and it really fucking sucks
2- 7.5mg's used to get me fucked...now i take 5...sometimes more.....
is there anyway to prevent my tolerance...or if i waited 1 day without taking it would it go down?
sorry for the noob question...
i appreciate all the help you can offer
**hypothetical of course**
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dude your tolerance isn't shit... i rarely do hydro and when i do i would probably need 6 at least of those 7.5's
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#25
 2008-06-01, 00:17
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
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Originally Posted by VerticalSmile
yeah...
i only have about 45- 750's left...
heh...
maybe i should quit...
but i love them so much
they are awesome
i would serisouly LOVE herion...i cant ever try that shit
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yeah man don't do herion.. herion is too good of a drug to fuck with
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#26
 2008-06-01, 01:03
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
I can't imagine how you've yet to find a pain management doctor who understood your situation to prescribe something like fentanyl patches to you. You ever tried those for the pain? Do they help? From what I hear from people with monster tolerances and legitimate chronic pain like you have, fentanyl was a godsend for them in terms of analgesic benefit.
Oh my Dr will give me the patches if I want them. But first of all they don't work that much better, and second they are bloody expensive as hell - I have no insurance and I make too much from SocSec to get help from Medicade [go figure, huh?].
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#27
 2008-06-01, 01:06
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
you all suck i take like 30 vics before i even feel shit cuz my body is just way hardcore and shit fuck
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#28
 2008-06-01, 01:32
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
Oh my Dr will give me the patches if I want them. But first of all they don't work that much better, and second they are bloody expensive as hell - I have no insurance and I make too much from SocSec to get help from Medicade [go figure, huh?].
They actually got generics now, but one of them, the Mylan version I believe, comes in an adhesive strip instead of a patch, with no gel, and people who use it even as directed seem to report lower efficiency from it. I've also heard this about Teva and Impax generic OxyContins (which is supposedly part of the reason Purdue Pharma got upset about their product being fucked with via anti-abuse gelling etc.)
I'd certainly have to imagine fentanyl would kill more pain in the majority of people than hydrocodone would. You still just take the Norcos and MS Contin...60s was it?
Besides fentanyl, the only other high-powdered long-acting opiate I can think of would be Opana, and there's definitely no generics for that yet and I doubt oxymorphone is going to be cheap.
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#29
 2008-06-01, 03:50
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
I'd certainly have to imagine fentanyl would kill more pain in the majority of people than hydrocodone would. You still just take the Norcos and MS Contin...60s was it?
Yup, that's it exactly. I've been on this dose a couple of years now and am considering asking for him to increase it some.
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#30
 2008-06-01, 03:55
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Re: Hydrocodone and my damn tolerance..
Yup, that's it exactly. I've been on this dose a couple of years now and am considering asking for him to increase it some.
Doesn't seem unreasonable to me; there's still a lot of dosage room with the MS Contin. Hope it works out for you somehow, I can't imagine what it's like to live in constant pain while dealing with incompetent doctors. I used to get irritable enough just over them not understanding my anxiety...
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