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Old 2008-05-28, 18:09
torqueman torqueman is offline
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Default Suggestion about mushrooms

Mushrooms. You buy them in grams, usually. I know why they are sold like this, to make money blah blah, yeah.

If mushrooms have a preset amount of psilocybin in them, not mattering how big or how much the mushroom weighs, wouldn't it be ideal to sell per mushroom, and not per gram?

Scenario: You have two bags of mushrooms to choose from.

Bag #1. Four small mushrooms. Bag weighs two grams.
Bag #2. Two moderately-sized mushrooms. Bag weighs two grams.

Wouldn't you trip harder off of bag #1 because it contains twice the amount of mushrooms(psilocybin), but it weighs the exact same amount, also meaning same price?
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Old 2008-05-28, 18:13
thatcoolkid thatcoolkid is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

...no
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Old 2008-05-28, 18:27
Br00klynB0y87 Br00klynB0y87 is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

:D Lulz...

.peace.
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Old 2008-05-28, 18:38
torqueman torqueman is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

Wow, really?

Maybe someone with actual evidence/information could correct me then.
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Old 2008-05-28, 18:57
Br00klynB0y87 Br00klynB0y87 is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

What?

What do you mean actual evidence Confused your question is quite foolish to start with,

it's like saying, I have two pills and their both 15mg, however one pill is bigger than the other, which one is more potent.

You could have one monstrous mushroom weighing 3.5grams and then a bunch of smaller shrooms weighing 3.5grams-

whether you consume the single mushroom or the several small mushroom, it doesn't matter, they would both provide the same level experience.

.peace.
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Old 2008-05-28, 19:00
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

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Originally Posted by torqueman
Wow, really?

Maybe someone with actual evidence/information could correct me then.


Nah man its common sense that you get similar mg of psilo per g of mush regardless if it is big or small. Aborts are an exception, they are thought to metabolize and produce psilo even after they have stopped growing, IME when 1-2g of aborts is equal to 8th of fully ripened mush from the same grow. But 2gs small shrooms vs 2gs big shrooms are the same shit, unless they big ones were harvested way too late which is rarely if ever the case.
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Old 2008-05-28, 19:10
torqueman torqueman is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

it's like saying, I have two pills and their both 15mg, however one pill is bigger than the other, which one is more potent.

You could have one monstrous mushroom weighing 3.5grams and then a bunch of smaller shrooms weighing 3.5grams

I'm talking about weight, more than potency.

That doesn't seem like a good comparison. If a mushroom has, lets just say, 3units of psylocibin, and weighs 1gram, and you also have another mushroom that has 3units of psylocibin and weighs 2.5grams...

Good god I don't know how to explain this in a way that makes any fuckin' sense.
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Old 2008-05-28, 19:22
Br00klynB0y87 Br00klynB0y87 is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

Okay let me try to put it like this,

unless your talking about mushrooms from two different strains, then 2grams of say cubensis compared to 2grams of azurenscens would differ.

However in the case of the same mushrooms (strain, and quality) than 2grams is 2grams, regardless of the size, the potency (amount of psilocybin and psilocin) within 2grams will be the same, or very close to it.

Please tell me you understand now. :)

.peace.
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Old 2008-05-28, 19:31
Thermal Thermal is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

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Okay let me try to put it like this,

unless your talking about mushrooms from two different strains, then 2grams of say cubensis compared to 2grams of azurenscens would differ.

However in the case of the same mushrooms (strain, and quality) than 2grams is 2grams, regardless of the size, the potency (amount of psilocybin and psilocin) within 2grams will be the same, or very close to it.

Please tell me you understand now. :)

.peace.


Exacly. with the exception of aborts that many will agree have more psilo per weight than adult fruits.
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Old 2008-05-28, 19:37
torqueman torqueman is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

Simple question: Same strain of shrooms, do two different sized shrooms contain almost the same amount of psylocibin?
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Old 2008-05-28, 19:40
Br00klynB0y87 Br00klynB0y87 is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

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Originally Posted by torqueman
Simple question: Same strain of shrooms, do two different sized shrooms contain almost the same amount of psylocibin?


in the case of the same mushrooms (strain, and quality) than 2grams is 2grams, regardless of the size, the potency (amount of psilocybin and psilocin) within 2grams will be the same, or very close to it.

.peace.‎‎‎‎‎
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Old 2008-05-28, 19:42
torqueman torqueman is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

Kill thread
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Old 2008-05-29, 00:18
Naminator01 Naminator01 is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

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Originally Posted by torqueman
Simple question: Same strain of shrooms, do two different sized shrooms contain almost the same amount of psylocibin?


Stop fucking oxymoroning mah totse.

No, most of the time, if the mushrooms were brought up in the same soil they should have the same god damn psilocybin/weight ratio.
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Old 2008-05-29, 07:32
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

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Originally Posted by torqueman
Mushrooms. You buy them in grams, usually. I know why they are sold like this, to make money blah blah, yeah.

If mushrooms have a preset amount of psilocybin in them, not mattering how big or how much the mushroom weighs, wouldn't it be ideal to sell per mushroom, and not per gram?

Scenario: You have two bags of mushrooms to choose from.

Bag #1. Four small mushrooms. Bag weighs two grams.
Bag #2. Two moderately-sized mushrooms. Bag weighs two grams.

Wouldn't you trip harder off of bag #1 because it contains twice the amount of mushrooms(psilocybin), but it weighs the exact same amount, also meaning same price?

Lawl Nah bro, it's not like that. Think of it like this, if you have a quart of feathers or a quart of lead. They way the same law;l
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Old 2008-05-29, 07:40
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

Almost all shrooms contain the same psilo/total weight ratio.

This thread is over.
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Old 2008-05-29, 13:59
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

I've heard a similar rumor. That mushrooms produce a rather universal amount of psilocybin over the period of their life.

So if a mushroom has 3 units of psilocybin at adulthood, eating a 2gram mushroom vs a 1gram mushrooms (providing they're the same age) has very similar amounts of psilocybin.

That's why he's saying 2 1gram mushrooms would have more psilocybin than a 2 gram mushrooms.

Again, it's a rumor. But still, not such a stupid question if fuck heads could interpret it properly.
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Old 2008-05-29, 17:30
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

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I've heard a similar rumor. That mushrooms produce a rather universal amount of psilocybin over the period of their life.

So if a mushroom has 3 units of psilocybin at adulthood, eating a 2gram mushroom vs a 1gram mushrooms (providing they're the same age) has very similar amounts of psilocybin.

That's why he's saying 2 1gram mushrooms would have more psilocybin than a 2 gram mushrooms.

Again, it's a rumor. But still, not such a stupid question if fuck heads could interpret it properly.


That's why it's a fucking rumor. FUCK THIS THREAD!!!

OP is a faggot, and, without checking again, most likely an acolyte.
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Old 2008-05-30, 00:26
949884573 949884573 is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

Well, I have a book called Psilocybin Mushrooms of the world. It says younger/smaller mushrooms are likely to be more potent than larger or older mushrooms. It's written by mycologists, so I'd trust their word over a bunch of totse dipshits. However, from my experience with cubensis, the difference in potency between large and small mushrooms is barely noticable.

But yeah, go ahead and sell them by the amount of mushrooms. You don't need a scale. But I wouldn't sell less than 10 at a time if I were you, cause loads of people get anal about it when they don't feel enough effects, and please if you're collecting them from the wild, don't take too many cause you'll exhaust the shroom field and there won't be any growing there for possibly many years. It'd be nice if you'd cut them from the bottom of the stem rather than ripping them out, too. I always thought it's stupid to sell them by weight...

Learn how to grow them if you can't, or get someone else to. I made the mistake once of not being prepared and wasting so many spore prints from the wild.
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Old 2008-05-30, 01:34
WonkierBubble WonkierBubble is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

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Originally Posted by torqueman
Simple question: Same strain of shrooms, do two different sized shrooms contain almost the same amount of psylocibin?


No. Smaller shrooms are more potent (PER CUBIC CM) than large ones BUT psilocybin does not stopped being produced when the shroom gets bigger. I think that makes sense.
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Old 2008-05-30, 02:03
laundrysoap laundrysoap is offline
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Default Re: Suggestion about mushrooms

It's written by mycologists, so I'd trust their word over a bunch of totse dipshits.

Fuck you, we've been saying that the whole time. Read the fucking thread. BTW, you're more of a "totse dipshit" than the OP.
 
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