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 #1 
Old 2008-05-27, 22:39
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Default Depersonalization, even when not high.

Yeah I read that other thread about having bad times when high. And something from wikipedia he posted describes my current state well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization

I thought I was just depressed, but did I do something to myself with drug use? I doubt it, I had some scattered marijuana use, a third plateu DXM trip. Adderall a couple times. Diazepam once.

Is this treatable?
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Old 2008-05-27, 23:01
spl1ff spl1ff is offline
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stay away from the dxm
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Old 2008-05-27, 23:07
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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drugs do not make you crazy


you are just stupid
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Old 2008-05-27, 23:11
sidewayz6.6 sidewayz6.6 is offline
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I felt like that on shrooms, and do still every now and then. It's like life is a game, nothing matters. In the end we all die and go to dust, and no one can do anything to make a long-lasting effect. It's a harsh reality for some, but it's the truth: brutal and up-front.
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Old 2008-05-27, 23:18
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Default Re: Depersonalization, even when not high.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemical Eudaemonia
drugs do not make you crazy


you are just stupid


You seem to follow me around insulting my since I said some bad thing about you, I don't even remember.

I had expected a reality like this from strong psychedelic, but pot is only a mild psychedelic, although I've had crazy times on it.
It gets worse when I focus on it, usually I can ignore, but I can put myself into strange thought loops about my thinking. Metacognition, thinking about thinking.
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Old 2008-05-27, 23:24
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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You seem to follow me around insulting my since I said some bad thing about you, I don't even remember.

follow you around? no such luck dipshit, i haven't even seen your name before. it just so happens you are the one asking all the dumb fucking questions, does that make you feel any better you stupid piece of shit?

maybe if you did as much thinking as you think you do you wouldn't be such a tard
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Old 2008-05-28, 00:30
rock_is_dead rock_is_dead is offline
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It gets worse when I focus on it, usually I can ignore, but I can put myself into strange thought loops about my thinking. Metacognition, thinking about thinking.

This is very similar to what I get while stoned.
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Old 2008-05-28, 00:33
PopaChubby PopaChubby is offline
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You can spend a few hours on webMd and convince yourself you have a ton of other psychosomatic diseases. Everybody thinks there's something wrong with them.
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Old 2008-05-28, 01:10
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Default Re: Depersonalization, even when not high.

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You can spend a few hours on webMd and convince yourself you have a ton of other psychosomatic diseases. Everybody thinks there's something wrong with them.


True.
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Old 2008-05-28, 01:45
Suicide_Mouse Suicide_Mouse is offline
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I may have it.
I'm soon to start going through another medical evaluation to see if we can clear this up, I only recently figured out what depersonalization is and told my doctor about my experiences so she feels it's necessary to go through the steps and find out what's going on.

EDIT: If anyone saw my full post here before I edited it could they please not repost it in a quote or anything, I let myself go on and on and i don't really want to have all of that discussed here.
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Old 2008-05-28, 01:47
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Default Re: Depersonalization, even when not high.

quit being a bitch?

????
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Old 2008-05-28, 02:09
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Default Re: Depersonalization, even when not high.

quit being a bitch?

????
Nobody's being a bitch. I am apathetic toward the whole situation, just wanted to know if this is just something that "happens" or is from any drug use.
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Old 2008-05-28, 02:16
Suicide_Mouse Suicide_Mouse is offline
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W_S_T, you might want to watch a movie called "Numb".

It's pretty good and in the movie the main character is worried that weed is what made him develop it but even the doctors say it probably would have happened anyways and he just triggered it sooner. It can happen with or without.

I really liked how they never blamed the weed definitely like a lot of movies and took a realistic approach, with new proper information, not 1960s scare tactics.
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Old 2008-05-28, 02:57
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maybe if you did as much thinking as you think you do you wouldn't be such a tard

Lulz.

It seems like you're just going further and further into it, worrying about what might be the case and thinking about it too much. By thinking about it too much, you might be causing it, or even exacerbating it.

It's weird how psychological conditions work. If you would just chill the fuck out and stop worrying about it, you might not even notice it again. And then who's to say you have depersonalization disorder? Nobody. See, it's all in your mind, and how you perceive things.

You probably never thought you had a problem before you saw that. So why do you think you have one now?

Everyone gets a little scatterbrained now and then, but I don't think nearly as many people have real problems as the amount that think they do.
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Old 2008-05-28, 04:32
Suicide_Mouse Suicide_Mouse is offline
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onysik22, I think you may have been talking to me but I'm not sure.

I read about it before I saw the movie lol, that's when I thought about how much it explains about my fucked up mind, that's why I went and saw the movie, to see how they portrayed it. Love that movie, it was like watching my life sorta except he had it go full blown much later in his life.

"It seems like you're just going further and further into it, worrying about what might be the case and thinking about it too much. By thinking about it too much, you might be causing it, or even exacerbating it.

It's weird how psychological conditions work. If you would just chill the fuck out and stop worrying about it, you might not even notice it again. And then who's to say you have depersonalization disorder? Nobody. See, it's all in your mind, and how you perceive things."

This is pretty fucking true. I'm not saying I know I have it, mental illnesses have been a part of my life since I was on prozac at six so I'm not one to jump to conclusions about what I have or not, I try to relax and just enjoy life. That's what everyone should do, if you're a little worried about something and you think it might be serious, just talk to your doctor, don't panic and start going "OMG THAT'S ME!" or "I'M JUST LIKE THAT! OH NOES!". That's one of the reasons that unless you're pretty damn stable in the sense of who you are, I wouldn't watch it while you're high, you start that kind of thinking.
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Old 2008-05-28, 20:35
PopaChubby PopaChubby is offline
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Are you under a lot of stress?

I convinced myself I had diabetes a few years ago. I was under a ton of stress because of heavy end of the semester course work and my ex-girlfriend. A psychology professor mentioned something about drinking lots of water and having diabetes. So I read threw all the symptoms and I convinced myself I had it; even though, I've never been overweight in my life. I went to a doctor and got blood work and I was perfectly fine.

It sort of takes over your thoughts and you become thoroughly convinced you have it.
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Old 2008-05-28, 23:51
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Default Re: Depersonalization, even when not high.

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Originally Posted by w_s_t
Yeah I read that other thread about having bad times when high. And something from wikipedia he posted describes my current state well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization

I thought I was just depressed, but did I do something to myself with drug use? I doubt it, I had some scattered marijuana use, a third plateu DXM trip. Adderall a couple times. Diazepam once.

Is this treatable?


I had that alot in like 10th grade.. I was diagnosed bipolar but benzo's can help with that
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Old 2008-05-29, 00:31
Naminator01 Naminator01 is offline
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Oh man, depersonalization, at least to me was my transition from being a kid to a responsible person.

So much fucking stigma attached to this bullshit, let it be.
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Old 2008-05-29, 01:00
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Originally Posted by Naminator01
Oh man, depersonalization, at least to me was my transition from being a kid to a responsible person.

So much fucking stigma attached to this bullshit, let it be.

Yeah I was just thinking that, I am probably just getting past the emotional teenager stage. I have pretty much gotten over it, It was dumb to think that I have a disorder.

I feel "numb" most likely because my crazy teen hormones are starting to shut the fuck up.
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Old 2008-05-29, 04:07
Naminator01 Naminator01 is offline
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Well, the thing is, pharm industries want to make everyone think they have the disorders, more patients, more cash.

That's why everyone thinks they have ADHD, just very few people have this disorder but it has been bumped up to this bullshit amphetamine-zombification of the youth.

again, please unquote me.
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Old 2008-05-29, 05:19
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Yeah I was just thinking that, I am probably just getting past the emotional teenager stage. I have pretty much gotten over it, It was dumb to think that I have a disorder.

I feel "numb" most likely because my crazy teen hormones are starting to shut the fuck up.

How old are you? I think I'm going through this too. I'm almost 19. Everything seems stagnant. I don't really have the same interests as I used to. My thought patterns and urges aren't the same. Guess it's just another stage in life.

At first I was convinced that weed had turned me into a schitzo. But I haven't been smoking for even half a year and I've only done LSA and shrooms once...so that's irrational seeing how people can do this shit for years without doing much damage.
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Old 2008-05-29, 10:27
Fidens Fidens is offline
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Yeah it's called using your brain and not letting your brain use you.

Snap out of it.
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Old 2008-05-29, 11:21
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Default Re: Depersonalization, even when not high.

How old are you? I think I'm going through this too. I'm almost 19. Everything seems stagnant. I don't really have the same interests as I used to. My thought patterns and urges aren't the same. Guess it's just another stage in life.

At first I was convinced that weed had turned me into a schitzo. But I haven't been smoking for even half a year and I've only done LSA and shrooms once...so that's irrational seeing how people can do this shit for years without doing much damage.

Im turning 16 in July. This now also explains the trouble in my relationship with my girlfriend, I'm changing alot, and not leaving her behind still.

Applause! A productive thread!
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Old 2008-06-01, 08:05
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yea, metaphysical thinking like that makes me wonder if im a philospopher or a lunatic. but ya, to what that guy said, nothing does matter, nothing anyone ever does will have a lasting effect on the universe. everything eventually ends. you just have to accept that reality and not dwell on it. i think ill smoke another joint and comtemplate this...
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Old 2008-06-01, 12:35
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I have this...
And HPPD.

Acid is good but bad.
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Old 2008-06-01, 15:43
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oh, perish the thought of someone's mind revolving less around their ego than the universe they live in!!! :(
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Old 2008-06-01, 16:37
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yea, metaphysical thinking like that makes me wonder if im a philospopher or a lunatic. but ya, to what that guy said, nothing does matter, nothing anyone ever does will have a lasting effect on the universe. everything eventually ends. you just have to accept that reality and not dwell on it. i think ill smoke another joint and comtemplate this...


Nothing ever ends. When something dies, another thing is born.
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Old 2008-06-01, 17:36
Darkel Darkel is offline
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well yea i know the universe in general never ends, i meant more specific things like civilizations, good times, or worlds, all eventually end. and thinking like this definatly got excaberated by dxm and daily smoking, but its all good.
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Old 2008-06-01, 23:05
Opiumfarmosaurus Opiumfarmosaurus is offline
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I thought this was just a natural effect of being an overintelligent ape on a lump of rock in the middle of space? /nihilist
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Old 2008-06-02, 00:14
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Default Re: Depersonalization, even when not high.

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Originally Posted by Opiumfarmosaurus
I thought this was just a natural effect of being an overintelligent ape on a lump of rock in the middle of space? /nihilist


Probably it, I sometimes feel I am too aware of my own conciousness for my own good. I get alot of thoughts like "It's just an illusion, a biological function to keep me making babies, I have no reason to do anything"
But luckily none of that seems real enough, or imbeded in my thoughts enough to make me an apathetic douche.
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Old 2008-06-02, 00:25
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Probably it, I sometimes feel I am too aware of my own conciousness for my own good. I get alot of thoughts like "It's just an illusion, a biological function to keep me making babies, I have no reason to do anything"
But luckily none of that seems real enough, or imbeded in my thoughts enough to make me an apathetic douche.

Holy shit this.
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Old 2008-06-11, 07:14
Darkel Darkel is offline
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hell yea, this
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Old 2008-06-11, 07:15
Darkel Darkel is offline
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hell yea, thisNaminator01 Quote:
Originally Posted by w_s_t:
Probably it, I sometimes feel I am too aware of my own conciousness for my own good. I get alot of thoughts like "It's just an illusion, a biological function to keep me making babies, I have no reason to do anything"
But luckily none of that seems real enough, or imbeded in my thoughts enough to make me an apathetic douche.

Holy shit this.
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Old 2008-06-11, 07:41
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This needs to go to headshrinkers, they have experts there. Cool
 
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