Before I pose the question I want to ask, let me preface with an anecdote.

Recently there was a costume night at a local dance club. Three female friends and I were going as Hugh Hefner and the Playboy girls. I dropped a roll about half an hour to forty-five minutes before heading over to the girls' place to pregame. It started to hit me just before I left to head over. I was rolling balls at their place, feeling amazing and knowing exactly what to say and when to say it. We were having a great time, taking shots and fooling around and whatnot. We finally leave their place and get to the club about three hours after I dosed. But here's the thing, as soon as we got there I wasn't feeling it anymore. It wasn't like a gradual comedown or anything either, it felt like my roll just disappeared. And these were damn good Es too -- I know because I tested them -- clean and pure MDMA.

So here's my question (or questionS, rather): Was it all the alcohol I had that killed my roll? Altogether I'd say I took four or five shots at the girls' house, then maybe had two beers at the club.

Another thought had also occurred to me -- the environment of this dance club/bar might have also played a part. This wasn't a rave or nightclub with lots of other drugs besides alcohol. As soon as I arrived, I felt a disconnect from everyone there... like we didn't have much in common. The girls there were wasted and annoying, and I felt as though I was on a different wavelength from everyone else. It's hard to explain. Do you think the atmosphere of a drunken club could effectively kill a good roll?

Anyway, it was awesome while it lasted, but I was disappointed in how it ended. Do any of you have experience with alcohol and E, and if so, how was it?

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And what method did you use to test them? Also, if you use marquis, or some reagent, just because it comes up as positive for MDxx does not mean that is the only thing in there.

There are a number of compounds that don't show up on marquis, and someone could add a bit of MDxx to fool tests, while the real active compound is something totally different.


Then again, I'm sure you know what it feels like to roll, or I should hope, and you would know the difference.

Also, the booze didn't do it. I think you are right in your assumption that it was the environment. What I think happened is that it didn't actually kill your buzz, but rather, eh, how to word this right. UM you perceived the buzz differently due to the different atmosphere. I've had it happen several times on many different drugs. In both directions.

That even happens to me on alcohol, it's just the setting. Sometimes you will walk into a club and just get a good vibe and be ready to go.
Other times there is just something not right and it brings you right down. Sloppily drunk girls aren't really as attractive as the media perpetuates :P I think family guy captured that best, "I just smoked the wrong end of a cigarette...".

yeah, if you were feeling it in the car, then the issue was the club. full of loud, animated, drunken fools bouncing to some lame nu-rock and not chill, empathetic folks groovin' to some hot tracks on eckies. enough to kill anyone's roll.

Yeah, I agree. Thanks, guys. The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced it was simply the atmosphere of loud, annoying drunkards that brought me down.

Lol, and since you mentioned it Timby, I've actually lit up the wrong end of a cigarette while coming down from shrooms, and then I promptly puked my face off.

I think you might have just dropped too early. If you only took one and 3 hours before, depending upon how fast it hit you, it's possible that you were already coming down. If not I'd just go with what other people said: you just weren't feel it for one reason or another.

I do find that alcohol brings me down a little bit on E or at least gives me a feel that I'm not too fond of. All of the best times I've been rolling have been on just E or MDMA. I've found that the times I drank also, weren't nearly as enjoyable.

It's a fine combination just make sure you drink enough water, but not too much water or you will die like that bitch on the radio