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Old 2008-05-21, 22:49
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Default first trip - lsa

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Old 2008-05-21, 23:16
PandaOfAMan PandaOfAMan is offline
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LSA alone isn't all that powerful, at least for me.

You should be fine to take them when ever you want, and a little xanax or beer should 'bring you down' enough to sleep.

I just would be careful of mixing the alcohol and xanax, not that you were planning too, but i would just go with one or the other or small amounts of each.

Hope you have fun, and the woods is always a great place to trip/be high. Just surround yourself with good things and good people and you should be just fine.
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Old 2008-05-21, 23:45
Br00klynB0y87 Br00klynB0y87 is offline
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Don’t mix hbwr (or any other snake-vine) with alcohol or xanax or any other type of benzodiazepine. -Reason being is that LSA by itself can prove to be very sedating, and frankly you don’t want to add to it, if anything you want to offset it with something stimulating.

If you really want a winning, peaceful, euphoric concoction, than you ought to drink a nice cup of kratom tea after you ingest the sacred seeds. Kartom mixes lovely with hbwr seeds and helps guide the trip. While your at it, some nymphaea caerulea would also be nice too. Also a little ganja when walking through the woods will compliment the kratom and seeds to an immeasurable degree.

And don’t worry about having a bad trip, and you won’t. -Just make sure your in a good mindset that night, and that your just go with the flow.

.peace.
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Old 2008-05-22, 00:02
Zapphle Zapphle is offline
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Default Re: first trip - lsa

Don’t mix hbwr (or any other snake-vine) with alcohol or xanax or any other type of benzodiazepine. -Reason being is that LSA by itself can prove to be very sedating, and frankly you don’t want to add to it, if anything you want to offset it with something stimulating.

If you really want a winning, peaceful, euphoric concoction, than you ought to drink a nice cup of kratom tea after you ingest the sacred seeds. Kartom mixes lovely with hbwr seeds and helps guide the trip. While your at it, some nymphaea caerulea would also be nice too. Also a little ganja when walking through the woods will compliment the kratom and seeds to an immeasurable degree.

And don’t worry about having a bad trip, and you won’t. -Just make sure your in a good mindset that night, and that your just go with the flow.

.peace.


This.

Save the Xanax for when you want to sleep, or get some ambien.
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Old 2008-05-22, 00:03
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ugh. LSA? why? While I have never done LSA, I will say LSD (as well as other psychedelics) are amazing. From what I have read on erowid I will never try LSA. Hold out on your first trip for something worth while if possible. You sound like your in high school, so if your in a small town like I grew up in and the possibilities of tripping are limited, wait until you go to college.
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Old 2008-05-22, 00:12
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Originally Posted by IdentityCrisis
ugh. LSA? why? While I have never done LSA, I will say LSD (as well as other psychedelics) are amazing. From what I have read on erowid I will never try LSA. Hold out on your first trip for something worth while if possible. You sound like your in high school, so if your in a small town like I grew up in and the possibilities of tripping are limited, wait until you go to college.


Damn, you're a critical fuck. Why don't you try it before you pass judgment?
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Old 2008-05-22, 00:33
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i enjoyed hbwr nothing intense but very light visual effects in general pleasant if you can get past the nausea. i wouldnt recommend drinking could make throwing up very easy. just smoke a little bit and you should have fun.
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Old 2008-05-22, 00:40
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were just gonna be playing some beer pong so im not gonnna drink a ton.

im only taking the xanax if i have like one beer or if i dont drink at all.

if i have a good amount of either depressant, will i be able to fall asleep, because i know it is very tough to sleep with your 5-HT2A receptors being agonized.
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Old 2008-05-22, 00:43
Zapphle Zapphle is offline
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Yes, or sleeping pills are the best way
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Old 2008-05-22, 00:48
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NJ
Default Re: first trip - lsa

dont got none
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Old 2008-05-22, 02:00
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bump. more opinions please. totses being slow today and im impatient.
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Old 2008-05-22, 02:27
Br00klynB0y87 Br00klynB0y87 is offline
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Again as I already stated, it'd be wise you refrain from xanax and/or alcohol, being that LSA already acts as a depressant. -But hey, your going to do what you want regardless, right. :)

Btw, how are you planning to prepare the seeds? Preparation is crucial if you want to avoid nausea…

.peace.
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Old 2008-05-22, 02:34
silverballs silverballs is offline
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You'll be able to sleep regardless of whether the seeds are still having an effect or not.

Alcohol and xanax will severely reduce any trippiness you're hoping to get from the seeds.

Basically, don't worry about it, by the time you'll want to sleep the seeds will be wearing off and perhaps even give some subtle imagery to pass out on.
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Old 2008-05-22, 02:35
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im most likely going to hold over a lighter, then take the singed coating off with sand paper. sound good?

im drinking or taking xanax definitely by the way. i am a very nervous person.
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Old 2008-05-22, 02:55
Br00klynB0y87 Br00klynB0y87 is offline
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I’ve seen that method thrown around, before, -but frankly I’d try to keep the seeds away from any sort of heat and light, chlorine as well.

A better method ime is to carefully scrape the outer shell to the best of your ability.

-After you’ve deshelled the seeds, crush and finely powder the material and place the powder in a small amount of distilled water, and let it sit in the fridge for no longer than 60mins ... then filter the gunk and consume the water.

If you still find yourself becoming nauseated, keep in mind that marijuana will greatly help lessen if not completely eliminate the nausea, -not to mention, heighten the overall effect of the seeds.

.peace.
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Old 2008-05-22, 03:09
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thanks im definitely smoking too

my thursdays is looking fun: 6 hbwr seeds, tons of pot, beer, xanax
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Old 2008-05-22, 03:41
Puck Puck is offline
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You won't even feel the LSA with beer and xanax. If you're really that worried about anxiety on a trip then you shouldn't be tripping on anything.
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Old 2008-05-22, 10:34
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NJ
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thats why ive never tripped before but i feel its time and lsa is a pretty good hallucinogen to start with.
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Old 2008-05-22, 21:50
Zapphle Zapphle is offline
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Na, start with shrooms or something good that will make you 'trip balls'
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Old 2008-05-22, 21:57
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NJ
Default Re: first trip - lsa

brooklynboy, if i use your method (which i most likely will) is there a need to first take off the coating, or should i?
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Old 2008-05-22, 22:36
Zapphle Zapphle is offline
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Yes, scrape it off
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Old 2008-05-23, 01:23
Br00klynB0y87 Br00klynB0y87 is offline
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The reason to go the extra step and carefully scrape/chip off most -if not all of the outer/darker shell is to eliminate as much of the nauseating materials that you can manually, then let the COLD water take care of the rest.

Some just crush the seeds, shell and all, when doing a cwe, I on the other hand prefer to take some extra time and chip off the thin outer shell, so that if any of the nauseating chemicals do escape/dissolve into the water atleast I eliminated a great deal of the nausea by discarding the outer shell.

.peace.

brooklynboy, if i use your method (which i most likely will) is there a need to first take off the coating, or should i?
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Old 2008-05-23, 11:39
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alright guys so i took 5 seeds around 9 and ate four more throughout the night it was a good drug, but at one point it got pretty scary i looked in a mirror and immediately threw up.

i used brooklynboy's method and got impatient haha i also had like seven beers and like half a g of pot, no xanax
 
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