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 #1 
Old 2008-05-21, 22:25
killuminated killuminated is offline
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Default Marijuana's affect on pain

Need to know all the positive possibilities of smoking the stuffs, so's I can convince my dad to let his 20 year old son with kids of his own decide whether he should be able to make the choice for himself or not.

Run-on ftw.
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Old 2008-05-21, 22:38
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Originally Posted by killuminated
Need to know all the positive possibilities of smoking the stuffs, so's I can convince my dad to let his 20 year old son with kids of his own decide whether he should be able to make the choice for himself or not.

Run-on ftw.


I don't have time to do the research for you, but I don't think this is a run-on. If you just put "I" at the beginning of the sentence it should be ok.
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Old 2008-05-21, 23:19
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Marijuana's affect on pain

100% of OTC analgesics (outside of places you can get opiates) operate through cannabinoid mechanisms to provide analgesia - most through COX inhibition increasing the amount of oleic/arachyndolic acid avaliable to anandamide/oleamide synthesis, but APAP through conversion to arachyndoylparahydroxyanaline, a cannabinoid reuptake inhibitor.

If you're really bored, you can even print off the wikipedia pages to hand him.
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Old 2008-05-21, 23:20
Zapphle Zapphle is offline
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www.google.com
www.erowid.com

The internetz is hard to wurk.
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Old 2008-05-22, 00:39
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Default Re: Marijuana's affect on pain

I don't have time to do the research for you, but I don't think this is a run-on. If you just put "I" at the beginning of the sentence it should be ok.

This, and it's "effects" nigwad.
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Old 2008-05-22, 01:45
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Default Re: Marijuana's affect on pain

I doubt this will help your case, but for me pot does not help pain. In fact, it makes it much much worse.

Well, that's not quite right. It doesn't actually increase the level of pain. But it sure the fuck makes me much more aware of it and focused on it. That's why I don't smoke if the pain is particularly bad.
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Old 2008-05-22, 01:48
Zapphle Zapphle is offline
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I doubt this will help your case, but for me pot does not help pain. In fact, it makes it much much worse.

Well, that's not quite right. It doesn't actually increase the level of pain. But it sure the fuck makes me much more aware of it and focused on it. That's why I don't smoke if the pain is particularly bad.


Same thing happens to me. Ive read that it helps ease arthritis pain.
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Old 2008-05-22, 02:25
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If Im in pain when I smoke it usually helps me forget about the pain.
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Old 2008-05-22, 02:35
sidewayz6.6 sidewayz6.6 is offline
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Default Re: Marijuana's affect on pain

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If Im in pain when I smoke it usually helps me forget about the pain.


Word, I just feel overall "better" when baked.

OP, why not just smoke in "stealth mode"? I made a thread a few links down, where people have posted their hints and tips.
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Old 2008-05-22, 02:38
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yeah you still feel pain, you just dont give a shit, it doesnt hurt as much, benzos do that too
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Old 2008-05-22, 03:21
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iunno when my arthritis pain is acting up, pot just makes it more pronounced...


works like a champ on stomach pain though, IMO.
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Old 2008-05-22, 03:52
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It's not Marijuana, it's Cannabis.
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Old 2008-05-22, 04:12
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Originally Posted by Flaky
It's not Marijuana, it's Cannabis.


No.5char
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Old 2008-05-22, 04:14
sidewayz6.6 sidewayz6.6 is offline
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iunno when my arthritis pain is acting up, pot just makes it more pronounced...


works like a champ on stomach pain though, IMO.


Well, if my joints are creaking, yeah, it just makes it more pronounced. After smoking most times though, I just feel like sitting and not moving much anyways. It makes it easier to sit still and not move those aching joints.
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Old 2008-05-22, 04:28
killuminated killuminated is offline
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Word, I just feel overall "better" when baked.

OP, why not just smoke in "stealth mode"? I made a thread a few links down, where people have posted their hints and tips.


I smoked in "stealth mode" for 5 years while living with my parents, and now at age 20 REFUSE to sneak around like a jackass. Plus, greater risk of getting caught if I go outside.
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Old 2008-05-22, 04:29
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cannabis can, for some, erase the distinction between pain and pleasure.
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Old 2008-05-22, 04:40
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I suffer from constant chronic pain, and will for the rest of my life, or at least until this piece of shit is amputated. I hurt to the point of illegally ordering lidocaine and injecting it into my muscles and ankle, opiates don't work, nothing works, but pot helps a whole fuck load. I need pot. And don't read into that as some bullshit addiction, I need it for pain, or I am literally fucked on doing anything, I just hurt too bad.
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Old 2008-05-22, 04:55
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...so's I can convince my dad to let his 20 year old son with kids of his own decide whether he should be able to make the choice for himself or not.


You live with your father and you have kids? Maybe you shouldn't smoke weed dude.
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Old 2008-05-22, 04:57
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You live with your father and you have kids? Maybe you shouldn't smoke weed dude.
X-fiancee just kicked me out less than a week ago, have some compassion.
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Old 2008-05-22, 05:11
MongolianThroatCancer MongolianThroatCancer is offline
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ccrmg.org

tell him you're trying not to get cancer
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Old 2008-05-22, 05:12
Ed Lister Ed Lister is offline
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X-fiancee just kicked me out less than a week ago, have some compassion.

Shit, that's a bit rough.
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Old 2008-05-28, 22:47
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I suffer from constant chronic pain, and will for the rest of my life, or at least until this piece of shit is amputated. I hurt to the point of illegally ordering lidocaine and injecting it into my muscles and ankle, opiates don't work, nothing works, but pot helps a whole fuck load. I need pot. And don't read into that as some bullshit addiction, I need it for pain, or I am literally fucked on doing anything, I just hurt too bad.


Are you serious?3 bags of skag shot right into your vein doesnt help u at all?That sucks that opiates dont work for u.What a curse on life.
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Old 2008-05-29, 00:33
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noob do opiates like flat out not work with you like you have a genetic problem with your opiate receptors, or are they not strong enough to alleviate your ankle pain?
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Old 2008-05-29, 00:47
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opiates are afraid of SN
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Old 2008-05-29, 02:20
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mah compound
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I'm not saying I don't get fucked up. I get majorly fucked up :D But I still hurt. And though I've never shot heroin, I've smoked it and snorted it, and I've shot fentanyl and morphine, and none of that worked, though the fentanyl was better than any others as far as pain killing vs buzz, with more analgesia than buzz, which is what I want.


Oh, and today I go to get lidocaine patches I asked my Dr. to call in to the pharmacy, and they are a hundred fucking dollars WITH my insurance. I can't afford that shit. It seems the drugs that help they either won't give me, or I can't afford, and the drugs that do help are either being used off label, and against medical advice (lidocaine injections) or are flat out illegal, (pot, or diverted sources of Soma, no script).


I always said when I was younger that I would smoke pot till the day I die, but I had no idea I would NEED to smoke it till the day I die. I am so pissed and frustrated right now.


On a plus note I was finally able to get through to the SS office, and get the ball rolling further on my disability application. I don't really want it, but if they won't amputate this motherfucker so I can be normal, and work, then I have no other option.
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Old 2008-05-29, 02:22
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shit man that must hurt like fuck. how did this whole problem start anyway?
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Old 2008-05-29, 02:32
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mah compound
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shit man that must hurt like fuck. how did this whole problem start anyway?

I stepped into an exposed auger underneath a walkway beneath a grain mill silo. Hamburger.
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Old 2008-05-29, 02:34
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anyone get that?

i think you said something along the lines of, "i stepped on a meat grinder and it ground my foot."
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Old 2008-05-29, 02:37
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anyone get that?

i think you said something along the lines of, "i stepped on a meat grinder and it ground my foot."


Get out in the country sometime.
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Old 2008-05-29, 03:18
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mah compound
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Or google auger.
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Old 2008-05-29, 04:02
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I stepped into an exposed auger underneath a walkway beneath a grain mill silo. Hamburger.

Fuck that sounds terrible.
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Old 2008-05-29, 04:21
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yeah you still feel pain, you just dont give a shit, it doesnt hurt as much, benzos do that too


It doesnt even come close to making you forget about your pain(physical and mental) like benzos do.
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Old 2008-05-29, 05:20
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http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/126827-granny-s-links-cannabis-health-related-abstracts.html
ftw
all types of shit on there
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Old 2008-05-29, 05:31
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I remember a few months ago a stnudy was done where they injected capsaicin (the burning ingredient in hot peppers) into people, and the people who smoked pot actuall;y were in more pain.

So pot Can actually intensify pain.
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Old 2008-05-29, 05:34
plumplibnus plumplibnus is offline
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link that more pot can make pain worse (http://www.totse.com/community/www.medscape.com/viewarticle/565198)
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Old 2008-05-29, 05:37
plumplibnus plumplibnus is offline
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http://www.10news.com/health/4472065/detail.htmlwww.medscape.com/viewarticle/565198 (http://www.totse.com/community/www.medscape.com/viewarticle/565198)


www.medscape.com/viewarticle/565198 (http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/565198)
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Old 2008-05-29, 10:01
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Originally Posted by Metaphysicist
I doubt this will help your case, but for me pot does not help pain. In fact, it makes it much much worse.

Well, that's not quite right. It doesn't actually increase the level of pain. But it sure the fuck makes me much more aware of it and focused on it. That's why I don't smoke if the pain is particularly bad.


False. Smoking weed helps me get rid of a headache.

Quit talking out your ass.
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Old 2008-05-29, 14:32
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It doesnt even come close to making you forget about your pain(physical and mental) like benzos do.

i think it can go either way. im hypersensitive so when im ripped, i either feel numb and tired or like speedy and fucked.

it can make pain more noticeable or at the same time dull it.

i think benzos take away the mental aspect of pain (you dont even pay attention to the fact that something hurts), while marijuana definitely has some analgesic properties.
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Old 2008-05-29, 18:59
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dude this is way to broad of a question.
but anyway to hit the title, i hit my head skating two weeks ago and i blazed a fat bowl afterwards and it definitely helped the headache. they also prescribe girls medicinal marijuana for severe cramps so im pretty sure it helps pain. also prescribe to people with terminal cancer to help them feel good. i wouldnt argue with the doc!
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Old 2008-05-29, 23:13
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OP is obviously a complete moron. he doesn't even no the difference between 'affect' and 'effect'
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Old 2008-05-30, 01:02
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OP is obviously a complete moron. he doesn't even no the difference between 'affect' and 'effect'


aww, you havin' a bad day, buddy?
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Old 2008-05-30, 06:15
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it sure as fuck kills a hangover, including lessening the headache a whole lot
but if im not hungover, it doesnt help with headaches
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Old 2008-05-30, 06:16
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It increases the focus on my pain, like makes it feel weird and numb ya know.
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Old 2008-05-31, 07:00
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aww, you havin' a bad day, buddy?

nah, that's his general demeanor.
 
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