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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-05-20, 16:31
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Checkk 
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Slamming meth
How is it done? I've shot coke and heroin and had no problems but I've never seen anyone shoot meth before. (Actually, I've only met one person who does it around here.. Typical speed freak, he disappeared and no one has seen him since.) Approximately do think would be good to start with? Do I need any heat? Would glass or powder be better?
Obviously I'd only do it if I get some fire shit.
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#2
 2008-05-20, 16:43
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Re: Slamming meth
You don't have the time or patience to shoot the way I shoot. I clean the SHIT out of it. But it ain't hard, I'm sure you could do it if you've done smack and coke.
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#3
 2008-05-20, 17:09
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Re: Slamming meth
works alot like coke, dissolves in cold water. what dosent dissolve is cut and filler, so draw up go to a new spoon, heat if your squismish about cold shots, you shouldn't have that much water, no more than 20-25 units..
depends on how much stims you usually can handle for doseage. like if your one to load yourself up on meth to start with you obviously could take more than someone who gets off easily. i'd say no more than a point either way, you'll be doing this the first time. half a point might be your best bet tho, and do a second load if your not feeling where you wanna be.
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#4
 2008-05-20, 17:21
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Re: Slamming meth
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Originally Posted by stupid noob
You don't have the time or patience to shoot the way I shoot. I clean the SHIT out of it. But it ain't hard, I'm sure you could do it if you've done smack and coke.
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You don't want to give a proccess do you? I don't want to try meth because of how hard it is to be sure of purity.
Also, I imagine crystal dissolves in water too right? There is no change in it's chemical structure.
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#5
 2008-05-20, 18:07
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Re: Slamming meth
I don't want to try meth because of how hard it is to be sure of purity.
Pssh. Marquis on TLC. ;)
As for cleanup, depends on what's in it. Presuming you can do an a/b, your main likely contaminants would probably be b-iodomethamphetamine, unreacted ephedrine, and if from plant sources, the n,n-dimethyl analog of all the products...
reflux in NaOH in np should convert the iodometh into ephedrine, at which point, when starting from cold pills, you'd only have two products to seperate. In normal-phase chromatography, the ephedrine should be the first to elute. Speaking of chromatography, I've heard a few rumors that methamphetamine and several of its near analogues fluoresce under blacklight without degredation, which should make it more than easy as shit - load silica gel, flip on lights, isolate each individual alkaloid.
The n,n-dimethyl analog should be seperable by acidification fractionation, or by its more hydrophobic nature, or by a shitload of things. Repeated recrystallizations should be able to eventually exploit its hydrophobicity, for instance.
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#6
 2008-05-21, 00:24
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Re: Slamming meth
Pssh. Marquis on TLC. ;)
As for cleanup, depends on what's in it. Presuming you can do an a/b, your main likely contaminants would probably be b-iodomethamphetamine, unreacted ephedrine, and if from plant sources, the n,n-dimethyl analog of all the products...
reflux in NaOH in np should convert the iodometh into ephedrine, at which point, when starting from cold pills, you'd only have two products to seperate. In normal-phase chromatography, the ephedrine should be the first to elute. Speaking of chromatography, I've heard a few rumors that methamphetamine and several of its near analogues fluoresce under blacklight without degredation, which should make it more than easy as shit - load silica gel, flip on lights, isolate each individual alkaloid.
The n,n-dimethyl analog should be seperable by acidification fractionation, or by its more hydrophobic nature, or by a shitload of things. Repeated recrystallizations should be able to eventually exploit its hydrophobicity, for instance.
actually you are wrong!
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#7
 2008-05-21, 01:41
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Re: Slamming meth
actually you are wrong!
Unlikely.
Even if he was, you wouldn't be the one to notice.
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#8
 2008-05-21, 01:43
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Re: Slamming meth
Unlikely.
Even if he was, you wouldn't be the one to notice.
you wouldn't be the one to notice that
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#9
 2008-05-21, 01:56
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Re: Slamming meth
meth is good enough smoked you do not need to go injecting it
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#10
 2008-05-21, 02:05
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Re: Slamming meth
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Originally Posted by Chemical Eudaemonia
meth is good enough smoked you do not need to go injecting it
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what if you do though..
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#11
 2008-05-21, 04:16
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Re: Slamming meth
what if you do I am gay though..
Ohhhhh, got'cha! :p
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#12
 2008-05-21, 04:17
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Re: Slamming meth
i personally think meth has the least difference between its smoked counter part and slamming. CE's right, providing you don't waste shit smoking it...
unlike heroin and cocaine the difference isn't spectacular, i'm not saying there isn't one, but maybe because it was last on my list i think that way, who knows. only one way to really find out..
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#13
 2008-05-21, 17:09
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Re: Slamming meth
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Originally Posted by vilbe
i personally think meth has the least difference between its smoked counter part and slamming. CE's right, providing you don't waste shit smoking it...
unlike heroin and cocaine the difference isn't spectacular, i'm not saying there isn't one, but maybe because it was last on my list i think that way, who knows. only one way to really find out..
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Hopefully someone can answer this [who has actually slammed Meth before], but I have always wondered [since I've never tried Meth cuz it's not anywhere to be found here] if IV'ing Meth gives you that same rush that Coke does where your hearing gets all tinny and is just orgasmic; or if it's completely different and not as good. I do know it's much, much longer lasting, but how does the initial "rush" feel and how long does that last?
djONE.
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#14
 2008-05-22, 15:49
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Re: Slamming meth
Hopefully someone can answer this [who has actually slammed Meth before], but I have always wondered [since I've never tried Meth cuz it's not anywhere to be found here] if IV'ing Meth gives you that same rush that Coke does where your hearing gets all tinny and is just orgasmic; or if it's completely different and not as good. I do know it's much, much longer lasting, but how does the initial "rush" feel and how long does that last?
djONE.
I'd like to know this, too.
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#15
 2008-05-23, 02:01
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Checkk 
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Re: Slamming meth
Meth meth meth... I like meth! :D
I just got a quarter gram of meth today and smoked almost all of it with my friend who got it for me. But I saved a little bit to shoot, I'm just waiting for my heart to slow down a little (and I had to clean my room... haha)
The stuff I have now is powder closer resembling coke in texture, almost smell, and taste but the way I see it, people have shot worse stuff than this so I don't know... I just hope I don't die, I just want to say I've shot the 3 main hard drugs all before I got my license. I'm promising myself that I'm never shooting it again though. To me, meth is hella more addicting than heroin and I don't want to be a tweaker.. I'd rather be a junkie for sure.
I'll let you know what it's like to those of you who have never shot it... Hopefully.
I'm sorry I'm spun..
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#16
 2008-05-23, 05:10
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Re: Slamming meth
like a rush in overdrive. kinda lasts the longest, but after the inital kick it tapers out quickly...
then your just spun...
or loading up a rig of dope to get low..
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#17
 2008-05-23, 12:35
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Checkk 
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Re: Slamming meth
I didn't shoot enough to feel anything and the last little bit I had to smoke... Well most of it ended up in my mouth so that sucked..
But my friend got arrested on his way back to his house and was tweaking all night in jail. He called me at like 630 and it still sounded like he was spun.
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#18
 2008-05-23, 14:37
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Re: Slamming meth
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Originally Posted by Checkk
I didn't shoot enough to feel anything and the last little bit I had to smoke... Well most of it ended up in my mouth so that sucked..
But my friend got arrested on his way back to his house and was tweaking all night in jail. He called me at like 630 and it still sounded like he was spun.
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What was he arrested for?
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#19
 2008-05-23, 17:23
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Re: Slamming meth
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Originally Posted by Checkk
I didn't shoot enough to feel anything and the last little bit I had to smoke... Well most of it ended up in my mouth so that sucked..
But my friend got arrested on his way back to his house and was tweaking all night in jail. He called me at like 630 and it still sounded like he was spun.
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Was that your first time trying Meth? I wish I could find that shit around here to try. It's absolutely no where to be found.
I was hoping you would answer the question I had asked to about the rush of IV Meth and if it's comparable to IV Coke (With the head ringing and euphoria and what not), as no one has really answered the question specifically yet...
Oh well, try it next time and let me know what it's like, if no one answers this by then. And also try and actually do the IV Meth before you smoke any or even tweek at all, cuz that first hit will always be the best and won't compare to any less potent ones after the fact you're already spun.
Anyway, hope you enjoyed! Some day I'll find some haha. Oh well...
djONE.
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#20
 2008-05-23, 22:16
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Checkk 
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Re: Slamming meth
What was he arrested for?
He had a warrant because of a concealed weapon and distributing weed. When the cop stopped him last night he found a quarter in his car too.
Was that your first time trying Meth? I wish I could find that shit around here to try. It's absolutely no where to be found.
Yeah it was. I guarantee it's somewhere, you just have to deal with shady mother fuckers you otherwise wouldn't talk to. But I should be getting like a half gram of straight crystal in about a week so I'll let you know if no one else does.
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