I seem oddly driven to make this post, I haven't the slightest clue why I feel anyone should want to hear this, I presume that maybe someone who has hardly dabbled in any drugs might find this useful.

My drug interests started as very much risk free, I was interested in mind expansion, altered perception, and did not want to use drugs for an escape or for pleasure, only to see the world in a different light. This was good, I now see in retrospect. I smoked cannabis in various settings and dosages, some experiences were what one would label as "recreational" and others were quite intense, not quite pleasurable, and produced quite intense visuals in the dark. I then tripped on 600mgs of DXM and that made me rethink my definition of intense. Once again, that was in total darkness. Definitely appreciate my sanity more now. Still after just those drugs, I hadn't crossed over to the "pleasuregasm" types of drugs.

I had surgery a while ago however, and had some left over percocet. I used them a couple times in higher than medical doses and loved it, but for whatever reason, luckily, I didn't have too strong of an urge to do it again, and again. I had also used codeine, and hydrocodone, with much less euphoria. But I was still not negatively altered in my view of psycho actives.

Fucking amphetamine. God dammit. I should have known this would be what I'd enjoy just a little too much. I got it for free. I maybe should mention that I will most likely be getting a prescription, I have pretty bad ADD, and it's confirmed I'm not just a lazy fucker. So I have these four 30mg XR pills of Adderall. I crush them up as I have been told, and baggy them up for later use. (I crushed two btw.) One day before work, I decided that I was really tired and needed some pepping up. So I rail my first drug, 30mg. And parachute the other 30mg. As soon as I am back upstairs, I feel it. And it was love at first tweak. I was euphoric, talkative, alert, loving. On my ride to work (from my parents, too young for a liscence) I put on some Modest Mouse and wow, it was just as good as the euphoria from oxycodone or hydrocodone, but not drowsy, very awake! I was feeling absolutely great. At work I had long conversations with my co-worker, while working like a beast. I treated the customers like best friends, and every word that came out of my mouth was witty and clever. I loved this version of me, because I knew that others loved it as well. Hours later, I begin to comedown, I get a little tired, still in a good mood. And I go home a little lethargic.

I wake up the next morning, and after the morning routine, I immediately think "I'd like to do that again!". Problems already, this drug just fit me too well, and I'd always thought I was a downer guy. So a couple days later I repeated the same routine before school, snort and drop, thirty and thirty. I snorted much more efficiently this time, and it hits me in seconds, just more addiction potential. At school the effects are the same again, and my girlfriend loved how outgoing and talkative I was, I publicly expressed how much I loved her. I do that sometimes anyway, but I guess not as loud, haha! I got unbelievable amounts of work done, and learned a ton of material. I was asking questions, contributing to discussions, and getting shit done! I loved it, I am terrible with school work, so this was a whole 'nother euphoria for me. I eventual came down, harder than last time, mostly because I hadn't eaten a damn thing.

Now, I cannot help but realize I should never do this again. One problem, I feel I really medically need this stuff. Just on a standard ROA and much less dosage, as to get rid of the euphoria. It gave me the absent motivation to get work done, and made me realize how real my ADD is. I really can't pay attention to a mundane task when not on adderall. I have been prescribed Concerta but it did jack shit and had a terrible crash.

I can't just enjoy my perception altering drugs alone anymore, I can't just never experience that amazing mind set again, and it sucks. I wish I had never partaken in the abuse of amphetamines.

My message is as follows: If you are thoroughly enjoying psychedelics like cannabis, LSD, mushrooms, and other perception fucking drugs, do yourself a favor and just do not take part in opiates, or amphetamines and the like. Unless you just have a really strong willpower for these things. I thought I did, I really did. But Its gonna take some serious effort not to abuse my prescription when I get it.

Peace, and be safe.

Just to make sure I am correct in what I read, you've 'abused' amphetamines twice right?

Correct, and I liked it alot. Obviously I am not an out of control addict. The issue is I have to be prescribed to this drug and resist the urge to do it again. I have a very addictive personality, but it is usually with weird things (internet surfing, collecting when I was young).

Well in a perfect world you probably shouldn't do it again. However there are a lot of things that people shouldn't do and this certainly isn't a perfect world. You will do it again.

I think the main problem here is that you have already convinced yourself that you need this and have a genuine medical reason to be prescribed it. I don't believe in the prescription of amphetamines except in extreme cases, however that is beside the point. Just remember that amphetamines will make you feel good, they will improve your concentration and they will allow you to become more socially outgoing. This doesn't mean that you without amphetamines is flawed.

Man I have horrible ADHD but you don't need that medication. What the hell do you think is going to happen if you don't have it? You'll have to learn those skills without the use of amphetamines. Yes it's a lot harder but it's much safer and healthier. I use to use D-amp all the time and had a script, I would take 5-7 of the 15mg time release capsules a day, but it was horribly affecting my health so I stopped and now I get along just fine without any medications. Anyway, you can't say your addicted yet or give other people advice about staying away from opiates and amphetamines as everyone is different. If you think it's that mutch of a problem then don't get your prescription, you don't need it to function. I know you will anyway though.

I found Ritalin more "addictive" then Adderall.
I never really got the whole "I want/need to do more" or "I really feel like some right now" with Adderall.

Plus I find the high is not as fun, I know tons of people will disagree with me but I don't care, I know what I enjoy more. Also the "false pleasures", they were real. Caused by drug use, but real. You can feel the same way without them too.

EDIT: This is how I feel when I abuse Ritalin: http://tinyurl.com/yt92yk
Now this is how I feel when I abuse Adderall: http://tinyurl.com/yt92yk (Now I'm the second person in the video)

It's deeper then you think, on Ritalin = Euphoria + energy, on Adderall = INSANE FOCUS.

Blood.

Man I have horrible ADHD but you don't need that medication. What the hell do you think is going to happen if you don't have it?

His potential opportunities will be stagnated because society cockblocked him from the medication that would have given him the learning capacity to suceed in college and later at a career.

How selfish can someone be to tell another that they do not need medicinal help that has obvious benefits to their cognitive abilities?

Amphetamines make you smart, it doesn't matter if there is no such thing as ADD. It's there, and it helps, and the people who don't use it are the ones who are throwing bitchy fits about the whole issue because they don't want other people having an advantage.

There is nothing wrong with using amphets recreationally or therapeutically, whoever states differently is a stupid jew who wants you to fail.

His potential opportunities will be stagnated because society cockblocked him from the medication that would have given him the learning capacity to suceed in college and later at a career.

How selfish can someone be to tell another that they do not need medicinal help that has obvious benefits to their cognitive abilities?

Amphetamines make you smart, it doesn't matter if there is no such thing as ADD. It's there, and it helps, and the people who don't use it are the ones who are throwing bitchy fits about the whole issue because they don't want other people having an advantage.

There is nothing wrong with using amphets recreationally or therapeutically, whoever states differently is a stupid jew who wants you to fail.

Yeah there is totally nothing wrong with prescribing kids amphetamines to take daily for the rest of their lives.

Yeah there is totally nothing wrong with prescribing kids amphetamines to take daily for the rest of their lives.

Ok, so what's wrong with that other than the annoyance of it being on the cover of Time magazine every week?

oh noz teh poor kidz r being durged up

not everyone wants to grow up to be an idiot, that's why we have adderall.

Ok, so what's wrong with that other than the annoyance of it being on the cover of Time magazine every week?

oh noz teh poor kidz r being durged up

not everyone wants to grow up to be an idiot, that's why we have adderall.

Long-term negative effects of amphetamine use are widely known and reported. It's sad that we are giving this shit to our kids.

Oh and not everyone was born an idiot...

Long-term negative effects of amphetamine use are widely known and reported. It's sad that we are giving this shit to our kids.

Oh and not everyone was born an idiot...

Long term negative effects? You mean being a smart motherfucker with a good job?

There are no long term effects, that is a lie started by soccermoms to make more kids fail by not getting adderall.

I see an issue with early prescriptions with children but then there's cases where the kid REALLY needs some help and it does.

Also the second your able to choose, then you should be able to choose. Do whatever you want.

Long term negative effects? You mean being a smart motherfucker with a good job?

There are no long term effects, that is a lie started by soccermoms to make more kids fail by not getting adderall.

Tru dat homie.

That pleasure is just as real as the pleasure you feel when you're having sex... it's all chemical.

no, amphetamines are not the answer to success. I think before going through daily drug use for my ADD I should first make multiple lifestyle changes. A better sleep habit, better nutrition, and healthier relationships.

I'm glad you've ignored the shit that was spewed by a certain idiot previously who is obviously prescribed some sort of amphetamine and needs to feel better about the fact that he is wholly reliant on a substance to function while at the same time said substance is playing havoc with his brain's chemical balance.

by sleeping better and eating greens your attention span will skyrocket from 5 seconds to..... 6. you may even be able to solve basic arithmetic.


but the only way to overcome ADD is through the intelligent use of amphetamines. smart people realize this and they are the ones who graduate college and go on to make 100k/year

I'm glad you've ignored the shit that was spewed by a certain idiot previously who is obviously prescribed some sort of amphetamine and needs to feel better about the fact that he is wholly reliant on a substance to function while at the same time said substance is playing havoc with his brain's chemical balance.

nice run on sentence you dumbass. maybe you could use some adderall

Speaking to my girlfriend, I had a lot of self realizations. I don't wether I should be terribly depressed or overjoyed. My relationship with her is crumbling, I'm trying to assemble the pieces while she sweeps them under the rug. My best friend is suicidal. My school performance is awful. I'm not turning to a chemical. Especially one with such a rapidly growing tolerance. I have changed my mind, im glad i did every drug i have ever done. Ive learned that my reality is a combination of chemicals. I just need to keep those in check well enough to stay sane. Chemical eudominia, i hope you are joking, get some help.

nice run on sentence you dumbass. maybe you could use some adderall

Yeah, I could get you a bagful of periods and capitals while I am there.

Some people have legitimate chemical imbalances/deficiencies in their brains that can be corrected or at least lessened by the use of certain chemicals.

You wouldn't tell a person with bipolar disorder to stop taking their medication and try to achieve a better life through willpower alone...

I most definatley have an imbalance. I just don't think it'd be healthy, or a wise decision to take adderall. I just hope I don't lose my closest friend, only love, and chances at college this summer. Really the state of my life would really worsen three fold with the addition of amps.

Long term negative effects? You mean being a smart motherfucker with a good job?

There are no long term effects, that is a lie started by soccermoms to make more kids fail by not getting adderall.

Really?

http://www.emedicine.com/EMERG/topic23.htm

Long-term use of (amphetamines) can lead to myonecrosis and dilated cardiomyopathy.

Animal studies indicate that amphetamines interact with N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) receptors on serotonergic neurons, leading to neuronal destruction. This interaction may contribute to seizure activity.

Laboratory studies reveal that amphetamines interfere with the normal control of the neurohumoral (hypothalamopituitary) axis, affecting secretion of such factors as adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH). Amphetamines may alter other neural functions such as complex behavioral and learning patternings

Long-term Amphetamine use can also contribute to strokes because of their vasoconstrictive properties. They can also lead to Left ventricular hypertrophy because they cause your heart to be in an almost constant state of tachycardia.

WebMD is just run by a bunch of soccor moms though, so disregard all that information. It's scandalous lies--just the man trying to keep you down.

My school performance is awful. I'm not turning to a chemical.

so you realize your incompetence but you don't want to benefit from adderall and have a bright future because you may get addicted to it somewhere down the line?

adderall isn't addicting. you become addicted to being a smart little fucker, that's whats addicting. when you come down adderall what you are feeling is the feeling of being your usual dumbass-self.

Really?

http://www.emedicine.com/EMERG/topic23.htm







Long-term Amphetamine use can also contribute to strokes because of their vasoconstrictive properties. They can also lead to Left ventricular hypertrophy because they cause your heart to be in an almost constant state of tachycardia.

WebMD is just run by a bunch of soccor moms though, so disregard all that information. It's scandalous lies--just the man trying to keep you down.

i will not read any of this post because it is propaganda spawned solely to keep ADD kids down and failing because jews are behind it all and they want to be the only ones with knowledge and PhD's.


EDIT: ok I skimmed it a bit, and I saw a lot of "MAY'S" and "CAN'S", but you know what? your mom CAN suck my dick, but you know she probably doesn't.

so you realize your incompetence but you don't want to benefit from adderall and have a bright future because you may get addicted to it somewhere down the line?

adderall isn't addicting. you become addicted to being a smart little fucker, that's whats addicting. when you come down adderall what you are feeling is the feeling of being your usual dumbass-self.

Do you take Adderall?

Do you take Adderall?

do you take DOWNERALL? because you sure are stupid

i will not read any of this post because it is propaganda spawned solely to keep ADD kids down and failing because jews are behind it all and they want to be the only ones with knowledge and PhD's.

Oh here it is.

I thought you might of actually been serious this whole time. You are certainly stupid enough to believe what you have been saying. Fuck you probably are being serious, who knows, who cares. You are shit at what you do anyway.

Fuck off troll.

jews are behind it all and they want to be the only ones with knowledge and PhD's.


A valid point

Speed: the champions breakfast.

If you're a weak willed piece of fucking shit, you'll get addicted to amphetamines.

Otherwise it's a great tool to get off or get shit done.

now i know what drug distortion is on.

dude, you used paragraphs, complete sentences, and stayed on topic. you don't have ADD.



not by Dr. Totse standards.



your not staying up for days, fighting the shadow people, your not in abuse territory bud. so you stuck some powders up your nose, big deal bud. jeeeze. its not like you went at it until you felt your blood vessals tighten, ya know, like an addict would of, or sold your blood to get enough cash to hook up with the glass dealer in the trailer next to yours..

This message is hidden because Chemical Eudaemonia is on your ignore list.

Aw.

I've got ADD, I failed multiple examinations from doctors. And I have tried my hardest to succeed, but I feel like I'm being hampered.
And I know damn well that I am not an addict, I just felt like bitching about how I felt threatened by a drug for the first time.

do you take DOWNERALL? because you sure are stupid

Its Subtracterall, why don't you try reading wikipedia for once?

I've got ADD, I failed multiple examinations from doctors. And I have tried my hardest to succeed, but I feel like I'm being hampered.

Don't come here and whine about how awful your life is when you refuse to fix your problem with the one method proven to help make it better.

Take your meds like a good boy...

Don't come here and whine about how awful your life is when you refuse to fix your problem with the one method proven to help make it better.

Take your meds like a good boy...

Fuck you, its too unhealthy. I'm not 'whining about how awful my life is". Jesus christ, I try to spur discussion with a bit of stuff on my mind, and all people can do is attack eachother.

It's really not that unhealthy to take it as prescribed.
You'll appreciate the help it gives you and if you actually do notice health issues just stop. I don't see the point in refusing to take it when you know it helps. I think you're just really worried you'll abuse it.

If you use it properly you'll gain an appreciation for it and know that abusing it will wreck that for you so you won't want to.

You don't have a problem at all man. Use it as prescribed. When you've been sitting at the same table with the same people in pretty much the same place for four days and then you mumble "man, we're out of base. who can we ring that has fifty euro so we can get another lump?". When you get that other lump within half an hour and keep doing it for the next three days before you realise that your diet for the last week has consisted of speed and beer then you know you have a problem.

Ah, the good old days. never really considered it a problem though. Just stopped enjoying it. Fuck it man, take as much adderall as you want if you enjoy it - you'll know when to kick it. I hope!

nothing wrong with adderal but opiats on the other hand are evil to those who are taking them to get high! I quit ice with out any withdrawls but this is day two of no opiys and I feel like shit did ice for 8 yrs continusly did opies hard for 2yrs and its harder to quit opies than ice fuck withdrawls does anyone know how to take the edge off without relapsing?

Ok my dad just came up to me today, handed me a cup and said "pee in this". Basically I admitted I stole some of my moms Valium and that I was really depressed and that I needed to be medicated to succeed in school, but didn't want to be because that still feels like abuse. I'll be seeing a psychiatrist for my ADD and depression.

A.) a fine instance of trolling by distortion. this one actually had me going for a little while.

B.) Modest Mouse is the pwnage.

who gives a fig about amphetamine? hydergeine is where its at.

haha, no. But I wish this was a troll attempt, that'd be a succesful. When I was a noob I thought distortion was a good member, lol. And modest mouse is indeed the pwnage. Well im getting a script right away, i might as well deal with it.

Ibogaine.

Adderall is good for you and it tastes great.

A.) a fine instance of trolling by distortion. this one actually had me going for a little while.

B.) Modest Mouse is the fucking pwnage.

Fixed.

Neutral Milk Hotel and Built to Spill are also amazing.

Fuck you, its too unhealthy.

If you abuse it...

Develop some self-control, take it as prescribed, and your problem will virtually disappear. If it starts adversely affecting your health, just stop.