1) I saw blood and shot, didn't get high and my arm still hurted. Is it possible that the needle went thru the vein and blood could have still sucked up? It was OC, not dope.

2) How thick are viens about? If I know my needle is 8mm in length, how far should it be inside? Obviously subjective.

3) Anything wrong w/ using tap water? If so, is it chill to boil it?

4) Anything wrong w/ using a cigarette filter? What else works for a filter if that doesn't work (aside from medical filters)? Cotton balls ?

5) What is the maximum amount of water you can shoot into yourself? Meaning, if I draw up a full sryinge worth of water, is that bad?

6) Why do junkies think that air is bad to shoot when the internet clearly says it is not?

7) If I put needle in, pull back and do not see blood, can I put the needle back in the same hole (after pulling it out) or should I relocate? Where should I relocate (up or down the vein)

This is my technique, tell me if it's good:

Wipe arm w/ alcohol pad then ash arm/hand w/ soap and water
Wipe spoon w/ alchol pad
Dump dope in spoon
Suck in 3/4 sryinge full of water
Squirt water on dope (not spill it)
Stir (w/ needle sometimes, is this bad?) and heat/stirr if neccessary
Squish cigarette filter in hands, put halfway in water/dope
Slowly but steady pull up thru sryinge
Get air bubbles out, even tho it supposedly isn't necessary
Tie off arm
Insert needle into veinn following the vein up
Pull back and see blood
Untie arm
Bang
Pull out
Bandaid.

Legit?


I appreciate all the answers, I'm going to shoot up OC again today. What is so bad about shooting pills? Like it SOUNDS bad but in reality doesn't the filter catch most if not all of it? I know plenty (when I say plenty I mean 4 other people) of people who have shot OC and they are fine.

You should not be shooting up if you don't already know the answers to all those.

It's possible that even though you register initially (and pull back blood into the plunger) the needle slips out or goes through the vein when you take the tie off.

You want the needle almost parallel to the vein. That way there's less of a chance of it slipping out once you register.

Tap water? Not sure, I'd feel safer w/ distilled, RO, or bottled water (maybe saline?). But, dunno if medically there's a difference...

A cigarette filter isn't real good to use, especially with pills. You can use cotton from q-tips...

Just because 4 people haven't had problems in a limited amount of time doesn't mean there won't be ones present down the road. The full effects of doing things don't always make themselves present immediately after doing them. (i.e. APAP poisoning...first few hours might think you're ok, but after 24+ you're gonna be in a world of hurt)

But I mean, if you're gonna do it, might as well do it right. BTW, Panthrax has an IV writeup somewhere around here...

Just let him have his fun/death.

Oh dear. This can only end badly.

Thanks coolkid, any moar answers?

Cotton from qtip.. do I just prop it in there and up it from there?

1 I don't bang it until I see blood flowing in and check it two or three times while I am shooting it, but this also depends on the syringe you are using, the diabetics ones are the best and an IM one is almost impossible to tell.
2 There is no set size for veins, look at those blue ones coming from your wrist and then feel you jugular.
3 I use tap water but it's not really recommended, but then again I'm still here.
4 Once again I use whatever's there but I only shoot dope so I don't know if that matters.
5 Fuck man are you sittin there bangin yourself with water all day, use enough to mix your shit but 1cc is usually overkill for anything.
6 A syringe full of air is not gonna be good for you but a bubble or two wont hurt, actually when I have a bubble in they make a very distinctive sound at the end that lets you know you hit it.
7 Don't make so many holes man, when you get it in the vein doesn't just disappear, move it around and try to hit it without taking it out of your arm, your arm will thank you.

And one more thing you only want to use a little piece of cotton maybe as big as one of these words and don't untie until after you bang it but before you pull the syringe out.

Goddamn who taught you to shoot?

hahaha you fuckin' losers.

hahaha you fuckin' losers.

And just who the fuck are you mother fucker?

And just who the fuck are you mother fucker?

He's Xstan of course!

Stan is not the man.

a lot of air shot up will sometimes make it to your brain. I'm pretty sure air bubbles are bad for your brain.

Alright, what is bad w/ cigarette filters?

I never shot myself up until the other week, my bud always did it for me and that was a long time ago.

Alright, what is bad w/ cigarette filters?

gee cellulose in the blood stream isn't harmful or anything...cotton balls are safer not much, but safer than cigarette filters. try some microns for safest way..


and sense no ones told you yet, for oxy you use 2 units of water per mg. so if your shooting 20mgs at once, its a 40 unit shot...



keep in mind, 20mgs of oxy at once is a sizeable shot, doable to the opiate tolerant [you obviously]

and sense no ones told you yet, for oxy you use 2 units of water per mg. so if your shooting 20mgs at once, its a 40 unit shot...



keep in mind, 20mgs of oxy at once is a sizeable shot, doable to the opiate tolerant [you obviously]

2 units? Ok, this will probally make me sound like an idiot, but doesn't a unit vary w/ the type of sryinge size? Or is it unified?

Also, I do not know why all you people on Totse seem to think that 40mg OC orally/intranasally is only for tolerant people, and 20mg IV is the same thing.

When I started out, it was always 40mg to the dome and I would just get really high, not even puke. I would puke on 60mg, and it wasn't even bad. I could do 100mg over the course of the night, and even then just puke alot and again in the morning.

Even when I IVed it recently, it was probally a good two weeks from the last time I did any opiates. I IVed 20mg and did 100 intranasally over the course of the night (4-6hours?).

I puked 4 times that night, and 2 times in the morning. No OD, No extreamly slow breathing, nothing.

Oh, and my girl (100lbs) did the same amounts, just puked about twice as much, that was all.


Stupid Noob actually thinks that 30mg OC for the non tolerant is unsafe. Lol.

if you shot the amount you could blow in a day you'd be dead, that simple....


first, units are unified measurements. syringes come in 1/2cc and 1 cc barrels typically, at least, if you wanna use them with a degree of accuarcey and feel the drug. a unit is just that, one unit of the larger cc. a 1/2cc barrel contains 50 units where as a full cc barrel has 100 units...


now 20mg shots are what i consider baseline shots. i'm not saying not to do more, but that is usually where you start off. however if your planning on blowing opiates while shooting them stick to 20mg shots and space em out. blow a line or two, rig up, and see where that gets you. blow more to get higher, rather than shoot more. it'll keep you alive longer...




now if your gonna shoot oxy with any regularity pony up the dough for a wheel filter, sheets of micron, and a large syringe [at least 3cc's]. do not use that syringe to shoot, thats for your filter. this way you'll more or less remove everything BUT the oxy from your shots. otherwise you'll run into collapsed veins and lung issues pretty quick..










oh and listen, when you puke on opiates, your acute OD'ing. no its not life threatning, but its a sign of things to come. you won't notice the shallow breathing until its too late.

Thanks man.