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Old 2008-05-16, 14:25
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Default Medicinal amphetamine use and 5-HTP (Bit long-winded)

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I've recently resumed a regimen of Adderall, which I have been off of for 9 months, in the amount of 10 mg IR twice a day for Inattentive Adult ADD. Within a month this will most likely be increased to 15 mg x2, and then 20 mg x2, which was my previous working dosage. I take this medicine legitimately and do not abuse it; ie., I take it orally and as directed, and for the reason it is prescribed.

This works well for the problems I experience with ADD, and both my doctor and myself feel it will benefit me to be on this medication for a long-term basis, with occasional breaks in between where the medication will be temporarily suspended in order to gauge symptoms and observe tolerance, etc.

From what I understand, regular and prolonged amphetamine usage in this way can affect brain chemistry relating to serotonin and dopamine and may cause depression. Besides the Adderall, I take Wellbutrin SR 200 mg twice a day and Celexa 20 mg once a day for Major Depressive Disorder.
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My question is this: Will regular use of 5-HTP in the amount of 100 mg a day (50 mg BID) help to reduce the possible adverse effects that the amphetamines may have on my depression? I've used 5-HTP in the past with decent results, and currently indulge in no other drugs or alcohol asides from the minor things like coffee, cigarettes, and Kava.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated. :)
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Old 2008-05-16, 15:03
whitelightning whitelightning is offline
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Default Re: Medicinal amphetamine use and 5-HTP (Bit long-winded)

i know one thing...your appetite will be shot if it isn't already.
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Old 2008-05-16, 15:06
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i know one thing...your appetite will be shot if it isn't already.


It is, basically, but I keep an eating schedule. It doesn't bother me when I do eat, it's just that unless I actually go "Oh, it's (insert time), I should grab a bite" I won't really think of it.

I take multivitamins, though.
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Old 2008-05-17, 04:11
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bbump
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Old 2008-05-17, 05:16
Suicide_Mouse Suicide_Mouse is offline
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Default Re: Medicinal amphetamine use and 5-HTP (Bit long-winded)

*Also wonders others opinion on the matter*

I take about 300-400mg of 5-HTP a day and I'm on 30mg XR once daily (Only occasionally go above my script dose, whenever I feel like I need a bit more, I'll crush up like 10-15mg and swallow it).
It seems to reduce some of the negative effects I got like irritability and depression and I also think it helps me fall asleep.

I think the amount of 5-HTP I take is quite large but lower doses don't do much if anything from what I've felt.

I've only been doing this for about 2 months so if anyone has more experience or knowledge the OP (Sorry for talking for you) and I would appreciate it a lot.

Edit: I also take 1 or 2 500mg Vit C pills and a b-complex vitamin as well as meal replacement drinks, on top of meals (My weight is always low, before and after stimulant use began).
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Old 2008-05-17, 06:27
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cigarettes

not minor at all, the "fuck up" you are doing here, with your brain chemistry is very significant.

It probably plays a greater role in your "feeling of wellbeing" and "brain chemistry" then all the other meds you are taking.
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Old 2008-05-17, 07:16
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I highly recommend 5-HTP. I eat that shit for breakfast. I have been taking 5-HTP for the past 5 months. I am the most optimistic I have ever been in my life. Name a anti-depressant, I've been on it, and they did not work. In fact they had me taking the weekly dose three times a week at one point. At that point I just said, "Look, are you serious? You think you know brain chemistry? You get paid by certain companies to push certain chems don't you?"
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Old 2008-05-17, 09:30
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Everyone thought you where in jail or dead.

And lulz at multiple accounts.
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Old 2008-05-17, 14:26
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Everyone thought you where in jail or dead.

And lulz at multiple accounts.


I assure you I do not have multiple accounts.

And I was in jail. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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Old 2008-05-17, 15:00
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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I assure you I do not have multiple accounts.

And I was in jail. Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

jenkins is such a shitty poster that i just ignore his posts.

Im telling you though, smoking is what is fucking you over.
Start taking daily vitamin C, B-complex(1,3,5,6,12), and Choline.
Zinc is great too, but it needs to be chelated. (AKA amino acid chelate form)
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Old 2008-05-17, 18:17
Suicide_Mouse Suicide_Mouse is offline
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I've been on dozens of different anti-depressants and I don't think any have helped like 5-HTP does.
I quit the anti-depressants and started taking 5-HTP a few months later, love it, no side effects other then a good nights sleep (Possibly stronger dreams).

Also I smoke too but know that it has quite the massive effect on my mental health. Without them I fall down and back into hell. I'm working on cutting back.

You should note that there is research being done on the relationship with smoking and ADD(I think)/ADHD(for sure) and that smoking may help with the effects of ADHD and why many people with it self medicate with it. Hopefully they'll find some very interesting things out.
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Old 2008-05-18, 01:40
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jenkins is such a shitty poster that i just ignore his posts.

Im telling you though, smoking is what is fucking you over.
Start taking daily vitamin C, B-complex(1,3,5,6,12), and Choline.
Zinc is great too, but it needs to be chelated. (AKA amino acid chelate form)

Love you 2
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Old 2008-05-20, 00:35
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5-HTP confuses me. Apparently it actually doesn't do anything but it seems to have some sort of effect on me.
 
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