Vics, percs, and heroin are all opiates isn't it?

No.

They are all semi-synthetic opioids.

Morphine and codeine are your true opiates.

yeah so basically it means they're the exact same as heroin

No some are more potent and have varying side effects. Some are semi-synthetic some are not.

And if you are trying to prove to a pill popping friend that his pills are just as bad as heroin, just say they are in similar classes of narcotics.

are you talking to me or the OP? if me then your retarted cuz i was being sarcastic

are you talking to me or the OP? if me then your retarted cuz i was being sarcastic

Yeah I was talking to you but I assumed you were the OP without looking at names. Wow that was dumb.

Yeah I was talking to you but I assumed you were the OP without looking at names. Wow that was dumb.


yeah dude, almost as dumb as the choking game

Haha I remember kids doing that in 7th grade, I didn't realize until recently that they got anything out of it.

ha yeah i remember kids telling me if i wanted to do it, i declined. i really wish i would've decline when kids asked me to huff random shit like spray paint, etc. oh well

Right now I have drug testing as part of probation. I tested positive for opiates because I have a prescription for vics. If I take heroin, it would still be opiates right?

Yes, heroin will make you test positive for opiates, but you had better be sure that it's a fairly simple test. If they run a GC/MS on it, you're fucked.

yeah basically man

And if you are trying to prove to a pill popping friend that his pills are just as bad as heroin, just say they are in similar classes of narcotics.




but if you were to defend yourself [assuming you used heroin] to said pill popping friend that your drugs is similar to their drug and they shouldn't stigmatize you, you're usually SOL...

this should be in the drug testing thread.

also im 90% sure that only drugs that metabolize into morphine come up on drug tests. So, heroin will and vicodin wouldnt.

aces n 8s is right

I just recently learned this,(from the drug testing sticky)
heroin, oxycodone, & hydrocodone all show up as different substances in tests. (NIDA5 i believe)

copied & pasted from drug testing sticky....

The NIDA 5
Federal government guidelines (by NIDA-The National Institute on Drug Abuse and SAMHSA-the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) require that companies which use commercial class drivers licenses for employees must have a testing system in place. Among other things, this required testing program must test for 5 specific categories of drugs (sometimes referred to as the "NIDA 5"). Because of this federal requirement, most drug testing companies offer a basic drug test that checks for drugs in these 5 common categories. Click on the substance name for a description of the laboratory method for detecting the substance.
Cannabinoids (marijuana, hash)
Cocaine (cocaine, crack, benzoylecognine)
Amphetamines (amphetamines, methamphetamines, speed)
Opiates (heroin, opium, codeine, morphine)
Phencyclidine (PCP)

Expanded Tests
Most drug testing companies also offer an expanded test which includes a few additional drugs in the testing process. Most do not add all of these in their expanded test, but choose a different combination of 3 or 4 to add :
Barbiturates (Phenobarbital, Secobarbitol, Butalbital)
Hydrocodone (Lortab, Vicodin)
Methaqualone (Qualuudes)
Benzodiazepines (Valium, Xanax, Librium, Serax, Rohypnol)
Methadone
Propoxyphene (Darvon compounds)
Ethanol (Alcohol)
MDMA (Ecstasy)