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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-05-13, 02:02
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Hydro tolerance.
Yeah, you may have seen my other vicodin post.
So i took some last night (by the way year old vicodin is just fine :), and I want to know how fast tolerance builds
If I took the same amount tonight, 23 hours later, would i have the same effect? what about the same dose for 3 days in a row?
basically just wondering about hydrocodone tolerance.
thanks, and sorry for bugging everyone with all of these vicodin questions, but I really prefer having real people answer more than looking it up(which i have also been doing)
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#2
 2008-05-13, 02:14
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
well, how much are you taking? also yeah it will be diminished if you do it again but not by much anything after that and it's pretty much diminished and you need to up your dose, especially after 3 days.. this is for recreational hydrocodone not therapeutic.... hydrocodone tolerance builds up pretty quickly
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#3
 2008-05-13, 02:16
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
I'm dosing with 2/ 750's
so, say i took 2 tonight, like now, and i took 2 when i got home from school tommorow around 3, would i feel the same?
keep in mind i took 2 last night around this time
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#4
 2008-05-13, 02:34
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
cmon cmon, :)
help me please :)
i wanna know if i can take some tonight, and even tommorow morning....before it gets too late :)
sorry for being a pain in the ass.
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#5
 2008-05-13, 15:37
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
My guess is yes, you'll have practically the same effect. 3rd day yes..probably more or less same effect.
It also helps if you post the hydrocodone dosage. 2 doesn't tell us anything. 750 tells us the amount of APAP in your pills. The hydrocodone mg is listed first (i.e. xx/750)
Just remember though that nothing will probably ever be like that first time you got high on opiates.
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#6
 2008-05-13, 15:46
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
Be careful with opiates. You don't want to get into the habit of everyday use or common weekly use. Opiates are great, but dangerous.
Ahh...my weeklong OC binge where I ended up taking 60mg at once just to get through the school day. Fun times.
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#7
 2008-05-13, 20:31
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
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Originally Posted by VerticalSmile
I'm dosing with 2/ 750's
so, say i took 2 tonight, like now, and i took 2 when i got home from school tommorow around 3, would i feel the same?
keep in mind i took 2 last night around this time
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god, i hate it when people say the mg's of acetaminophen, if your gonna do a drug know what your talking about......even if those were 10 mg pills 2 of them wont do shit, take at least 4 if they are 10 mgs. not some pussy as 10-20 mgs. bullshit.
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#8
 2008-05-13, 20:34
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
Ok to the dude above me, i'm not trying to take 4 because thats alot of ApAp, and its fine if you wanna do that to yourself but i'm not.
I have 7.5mghydro/750mg apap pills
thanks for all you help, i think i have it now
BUT now i have another dilemma...someone has given me a 10mgoxy/325mg apap ...what if i took this with the vicodin...would i be fine or??? or should i just take the oxy alone?
thanks for your help again, i'm glad people aren't being asshole in a thread for once. (prolly jinxd myself)
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#9
 2008-05-13, 20:37
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
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Originally Posted by VerticalSmile
Ok to the dude above me, i'm not trying to take 4 because thats alot of ApAp, and its fine if you wanna do that to yourself but i'm not.
I have 7.5mghydro/750mg apap pills
thanks for all you help, i think i have it now
BUT now i have another dilemma...someone has given me a 10mgoxy/325mg apap ...what if i took this with the vicodin...would i be fine or??? or should i just take the oxy alone?
thanks for your help again, i'm glad people aren't being asshole in a thread for once. (prolly jinxd myself)
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Take all of that. 10mg of oxy is nothing even with no tolerance, 15 mg of vicodin is also nothing with no tolerance. Both of them together might do you alright if you have no tolerance.
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#10
 2008-05-13, 20:42
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
Take all of that. 10mg of oxy is nothing even with no tolerance, 15 mg of vicodin is also nothing with no tolerance. Both of them together might do you alright if you have no tolerance.
ok kewl, just want to make sure mixing hydro and oxy is okay
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#11
 2008-05-13, 21:09
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
dude omg.... take 6 of the 7.5's the apap isn't going to kill you, thats 4500 mgs. of apap the daily max is 4000, thats barley over it...i've taken 7000 at once and was fine. quit being a pussy and taking little 15 mgs. doses. if you wanna nod take 45 mgs+
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#12
 2008-05-13, 21:12
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
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Originally Posted by automaticmojo
dude omg.... take 6 of the 7.5's the apap isn't going to kill you, thats 4500 mgs. of apap the daily max is 4000, thats barley over it...i've taken 7000 at once and was fine. quit being a pussy and taking little 15 mgs. doses. if you wanna nod take 45 mgs+
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I'm good, thanks for your words of wisdom though.
EDIT: anyone have any more thoughts on taking oxy and hydro at the same time?
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#13
 2008-05-13, 21:39
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
take at least four. two vicodins isnt gonna do shit. the only people who need to worry about APAP are those who have a huge tolerance and need to take a handful to even feel the shit. i usually take at least 6 7.5's. and i would take more if i could afford to. stop being a little bitch, the least that APAP will do is put some hair on your nuts.
and yes, take the god damn oxy with it, because if you take the 10mg oxy on its own you will be wasting it.
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#14
 2008-05-13, 21:45
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
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Originally Posted by spl1ff
take at least four. two vicodins isnt gonna do shit. the only people who need to worry about APAP are those who have a huge tolerance and need to take a handful to even feel the shit. i usually take at least 6 7.5's. and i would take more if i could afford to. stop being a little bitch, the least that APAP will do is put some hair on your nuts.
and yes, take the god damn oxy with it, because if you take the 10mg oxy on its own you will be wasting it.
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dude listen to this guy seriously... OP you are a ignorant pussy saying "i'm good , thanks for your words of wisdom though" listen to people who know what they're talking about, you will be fine by taking 6 and you will actually get some euphoria and will nod off...if you dont wanna do that, then have fun "nodding" on 15 mgs.
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#15
 2008-05-13, 22:08
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
Lol, you all make me laugh, I dont care what you call me
I'm fine with taking 2 of these, i am plenty fucked up, my parents are around and whatnot, and i'm sure i'd be fine if i took 4-6, whatever you guys say
thanks for all your help
maybe someday i will decide to take all 6 or whatever, but 2 does me just great.
i appreciate all the help
i'm sorry if i've somehow insulted you all or whatever...but...well i dont even know what to say...thanks though! :)
2 does me just fine, i have about 8 left maybe i'll do a CWE on all of them and take that at once, but i am not gonna fuck my liver, even though you guys have assured me that i wont,
i do binge drink every weekend though, not sure if that is any factor.
i'm perfectly happy being a little pussy and taking 2 :)
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#16
 2008-05-13, 22:37
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
You binge drink regularly but you won't take 2g+ of APAP b/c you're afraid of damaging your liver?
*bangs head against keyboard*
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#17
 2008-05-13, 22:38
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
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Originally Posted by VerticalSmile
Lol, you all make me laugh, I dont care what you call me
I'm fine with taking 2 of these, i am plenty fucked up, my parents are around and whatnot, and i'm sure i'd be fine if i took 4-6, whatever you guys say
thanks for all your help
maybe someday i will decide to take all 6 or whatever, but 2 does me just great.
i appreciate all the help
i'm sorry if i've somehow insulted you all or whatever...but...well i dont even know what to say...thanks though! :)
2 does me just fine, i have about 8 left maybe i'll do a CWE on all of them and take that at once, but i am not gonna fuck my liver, even though you guys have assured me that i wont,
i do binge drink every weekend though, not sure if that is any factor.
i'm perfectly happy being a little pussy and taking 2 :)
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all i'm saying is, if 2 makes you feel good why not take MORE TO FEEL EVEN BETTER..dumbass
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#18
 2008-05-13, 22:48
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
Okay so binge drinking damages the liver just as much as say..4g of apap at once?
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#19
 2008-05-13, 22:52
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
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Originally Posted by VerticalSmile
Okay so binge drinking damages the liver just as much as say..4g of apap at once?
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4 grams wont damage the liver at all, really your overreacting about this... your liver is probably tough as hell, your just being paranoid. like i said i have taken up to 7000 mgs at once and was completely fine. it's where you get up to 10,000 where it can get pretty dangerous. seriously though dude try at least 5 pills if your so scared, you will be glad you did because the experience will be much more worth it...oh yeah don't worry about your parents, being on opiates is easy to handle just be sure to keep your eyes open.
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#20
 2008-05-13, 22:56
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
4 grams wont damage the liver at all, really your overreacting about this... your liver is probably tough as hell, your just being paranoid. like i said i have taken up to 7000 mgs at once and was completely fine. it's where you get up to 10,000 where it can get pretty dangerous. seriously though dude try at least 5 pills if your so scared, you will be glad you did because the experience will be much more worth it...oh yeah don't worry about your parents, being on opiates is easy to handle just be sure to keep your eyes open.
thanks alot man, and yes, i am one very paranoid mother fucker...and i dont even smoke pot anymore :P
but yeah with the remainder of these pills i plan on doing a CWE...i know your going to say its not worth it but, hell, why not..
anything i should know..i know how to do the process..any tricks? tips? on how to get the most out of it?
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#21
 2008-05-13, 23:00
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
thanks alot man, and yes, i am one very paranoid mother fucker...and i dont even smoke pot anymore :P
but yeah with the remainder of these pills i plan on doing a CWE...i know your going to say its not worth it but, hell, why not..
anything i should know..i know how to do the process..any tricks? tips? on how to get the most out of it?
nope, i was never worried enough to do it, so i dont know any tips. and your right, i think it's not worth it. how many pills do you have left? if not much then theres no point in doing it
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#22
 2008-05-13, 23:02
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
nope, i was never worried enough to do it, so i dont know any tips. and your right, i think it's not worth it. how many pills do you have left? if not much then theres no point in doing it
i have 8 7.5mg vics
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#23
 2008-05-13, 23:06
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
i have 8 7.5mg vics
lol, dont do a CWE. those are mostly for addicts who take a shit ton everyday. you could take all of them and you wouldn't even die...though you would puke your guts out...when i was prescribed them i took 8 pills a day for 4 days and i'm fine... really though just pop 5 or 6 of them and you wont be worrying at all and you'll realize that you were being overreactive. do you have OCD or something?
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#24
 2008-05-13, 23:12
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
no i just like my health/liver..i guess?
im definately doing a CWE...actually i was wrong i have 13...so guess i'm doing a cwe on 13..lol....im guessing that im gonna nod like hell?
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#25
 2008-05-13, 23:15
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
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Originally Posted by VerticalSmile
no i just like my health/liver..i guess?
im definately doing a CWE...actually i was wrong i have 13...so guess i'm doing a cwe on 13..lol....im guessing that im gonna nod like hell?
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dude wtf is your problem your worried about doing 4500 mgs. of APAP which wont even damage your liver, maybe very slightly. but now you want to take 97.5 mgs. of hydro...your retarted have fun overdosing, if you like your health so much why would you take that much hydro. just shut the fuck up and pop 6 of them
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#26
 2008-05-14, 00:18
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
dude wtf is your problem your worried about doing 4500 mgs. of APAP which wont even damage your liver, maybe very slightly. but now you want to take 97.5 mgs. of hydro...your retarted have fun overdosing, if you like your health so much why would you take that much hydro. just shut the fuck up and pop 6 of them
y b so mean?? lol
anyways, ill do a CWE on a decent dose and make sure i don't OD...since you care so much about me :)
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#27
 2008-05-14, 01:04
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
y b so mean?? lol
anyways, ill do a CWE on a decent dose and make sure i don't OD...since you care so much about me :)
no i dont care about you. i just thought it was really hypocritical saying no i dont want 4500 mgs. of APAP but i do want 95 mgs. of hydro
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#28
 2008-05-14, 02:59
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
no i dont care about you. i just thought it was really hypocritical saying no i dont want 4500 mgs. of APAP but i do want 95 mgs. of hydro
totally didn't mean to be hypocritical...so what is a good dose for a low/lowmed tolerance user of hydrocodone to do? 40mg? 30?
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#29
 2008-05-14, 03:08
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
Take at least 30mg's don't be a pussy.
Doctor told me I have liver damage, but that doesn't slow me down. I wear my liver damage as a badge of honor, bitch.
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#30
 2008-05-14, 03:12
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
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Originally Posted by Toxic
Take at least 30mg's don't be a pussy.
Doctor told me I have liver damage, but that doesn't slow me down. I wear my liver damage as a badge of honor, bitch.
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christ.....
well thanks for the advice....
i hope i don't get liver damage....and i know i wont...lol..maybe you should watch out for your health guy...just a thought...
so 30 ok...i'm gonna do 30 with a CWE then..proly this weekend...maybe tommorw lol...eventhough i've been high on this shit for 3 days in a row now..
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#31
 2008-05-14, 03:21
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
christ.....
well thanks for the advice....
i hope i don't get liver damage....and i know i wont...lol..maybe you should watch out for your health guy...just a thought...
so 30 ok...i'm gonna do 30 with a CWE then..proly this weekend...maybe tommorw lol...eventhough i've been high on this shit for 3 days in a row now..Liver damage isn't shit. You won't get liver damage unless you take a lot on a regular basis.
LAWL don't do cwe on 30mg's, WTF??? You lose that precious opioid gold. Listen to everyone who is telling you not to do this. Quit being a n00b. Heres some advice that I advise you take: Take a benadryl 30 minutes before taking 4 of those 7.5's on an empty stomach. You'll be fine you're not going to get liver damage, you're just being paranoid.
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#32
 2008-05-14, 03:27
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
ok ok ok i gotcha, stop being a pussy ok ok
anyways
so i have 2/7.5mg of hydro in me along with 10mg of oxy and 1.825 mg of apap in me
can i drink a few beers?
should i?
does it increase the effects alot?
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#33
 2008-05-14, 03:32
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
ok ok ok i gotcha, stop being a pussy ok ok
anyways
so i have 2/7.5mg of hydro in me along with 10mg of oxy and 1.825 mg of apap in me
can i drink a few beers?
should i?
does it increase the effects alot?I'm not calling you a pussy I just said you're being paranoid and ignorant. You're not going to get liver damage with how much you're taking and CWE is absolutely unnecessary and a waste.
Yeah go ahead and drink to your hearts desire you didn't take enough for it to matter.
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#34
 2008-05-14, 04:04
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
are you sure about drinking...i trust you and all but i keep reading random shit on websites, that say they get like rushed to the hospital after like 1 glass of wine...so wtf.....
anyone else have any say on this?
please ..honest answers...
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#35
 2008-05-14, 09:59
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Re: Hydro tolerance.
are you sure about drinking...i trust you and all but i keep reading random shit on websites, that say they get like rushed to the hospital after like 1 glass of wine...so wtf.....
anyone else have any say on this?
please ..honest answers...Have a beer and take it from there. Like I said drinking after you've taken this much isn't going to matter. If you take a lot and get plastered then you might have some trouble, probably just puking a lot.
My step-mom is an alcoholic with an opioid addiction, she has a legitimate reason to take them, but her addiction is bad so she doesn't just get them from a doctor. She gets wasted every day and pops at least 10 of the biggest hydrocodone you can get. She doesn't even know what CWE is. If my 115 pound step-mom can handle drinking and popping vics over the course of a whole day, every day then I think you can handle it.
I guess I'm typing this too late, but for future reference. :D
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