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Old 2008-05-11, 17:00
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Default Anyone used DMSO?

It's a rather unknown and untested method for drug delivery, so there won't be much information on what drugs work best with DMSO or in what concentrations of DMSO/drug. Only experimentation will be effective to know more about DMSO as a delivery system since the solute/solvent/cell membrane interactions are unpredictable. I'm planning to begin experimenting with DMSO as a vehicle for amphetamine salts (Adderall IR). I don't expect it to make the amphetamines ridiculously more potent, but I should get an idea of what concentrations are safe for the skin. My real goal, however, is to test various tryptamine compounds.

Anyone have personal experience with it?

*Important Note* DO NOT FUCK AROUND WITH DMSO. IT CAN BE HIGHLY DANGEROUS
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Old 2008-05-11, 17:25
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Hmmm I forget, is DMSO the chemical for catalyzing transdermal absorption or am I thinking of something else?
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Old 2008-05-11, 17:32
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Default Re: Anyone used DMSO?

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Hmmm I forget, is DMSO the chemical for catalyzing transdermal absorption or am I thinking of something else?
Yeah, you got it.

It is really interesting, but it scares the shit out of me at the same time.

I don't know if this is the kind of thing people should be testing themselves.

But you will anyway.

Interesting, but sketchy if you ask me.
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Old 2008-05-11, 18:21
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Default Re: Anyone used DMSO?

It's something that can only be tested on humans because of skin composition and other factors of pharmacokinetics. This goes doubly so when you talk about using it to deliver psychedelics. I'm not too concerned about OD'ing or anything like that, the main concern is toxicity to skin (which I already have some idea of, there is research on that). The thing that no one really knows about is the optimum concentrations for individual drugs.
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Old 2008-05-11, 18:41
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Default Re: Anyone used DMSO?

http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/Defau...g=posts&t=1200

Some promising stuff here. Seems like DMSO + sublingual would be the best route. DMSO itself isn't that harmful btw, especially under the tongue where there really isn't that much fat for it to dissolve. I'll definitely be going ahead with my experiments and testing 80-99.99% DMSO and starting low with various compounds. I'll try to compare freebase and salt form as well.
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Old 2008-05-11, 19:52
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Default Re: Anyone used DMSO?

There seems to be some connection between DMSO and Ave2...perhaps you can tell me what that's all about Ave? Meta banned you for a week because you mentioned it in the phenylalanine thread. And yea, people have mixed it with lsd and put in on doorknobs and such with ensuing luls.
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Old 2008-05-11, 20:21
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There seems to be some connection between DMSO and Ave2...perhaps you can tell me what that's all about Ave? Meta banned you for a week because you mentioned it in the phenylalanine thread. And yea, people have mixed it with lsd and put in on doorknobs and such with ensuing luls.

That was not why I banned him.
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Old 2008-05-13, 03:13
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Default Re: Anyone used DMSO?

Alright, so first test went pretty well actually. After deciding that I did not want to simply crush up an adderall and get the dye and binders in my bloodstream, I did an a/b extraction with 4 10mg generic blue IR pills to get some white crystalline amphetamine HCl. I used just enough solution of 85% DMSO to dissolve the crystals/powder and quite reluctantly dropped the foul oyster-smelling solution under my tongue. Within a few seconds I could feel a powerful rush and A LOT of euphoria. My body felt weightless and it was quite enjoyable. I can't really compare it to other amphetamines, but it was definitely a lot more powerful than parachuting 80mg of adderall with no tolerance. The high only lasted for a little over an hour and the crash was pretty bad.

This test was pretty much just to test the whole principal of DMSO drug delivery for myself and I would say that it certainly is a comparable method to shooting something, but without the hassle of needles and gives more versatility. Later on I will try a psilocybin extraction and see if i can get a stronger trip out of less material by tweaking the DMSO concentrations. I could try DMT instead, which would be faster and easier to do, but I want to test out an alcohol-based extraction of psilocybin.
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Old 2008-05-13, 03:53
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That was not why I banned him.
i thought it was exactly why you banned me....its just that i didn't err on the side of caution when suggesting the use of DMSO with drug "___"
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Old 2008-05-13, 07:31
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DMSO is not superultraextremely effective like everyone bullshits. it does not transfer ever-y-th-ing into your bloodstream at the speed of light, and it just really isn't easier than snorting or injecting.
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Old 2008-05-13, 15:28
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nicotine patches use DMSO.... what if you could make a transdermal cocaine patch? Or a CFT patch? Holy shit that would be so cool, it would last 10hrs+ if you could fit enough coke in it (>.5g pure... or a hundred mg of CFT hahaha)
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Old 2008-09-30, 01:38
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I want to try this with butane hash oil, has anyone else tried it or do you think it will work? You can get like a liter off of ebay for like 15$ which is a great fucking deal if it works.
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Old 2008-09-30, 04:04
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Not this shit again
If i were meta i would lock this thread, and ban this Ave2 character.

Your skin is there for a reason...
Dont fuck with this shit, you could get seriously sick, if you dont know what you are doing.

I have to say HeaT
Developing Heroin and/or Cocaine patch sounds awesome...
Hell you have the expertise/determination to do it.

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Old 2008-09-30, 04:20
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Default Re: Anyone used DMSO?

My step brother has used it for cryogenics...

He used to work for a company who freezes organs, and various human tissues.. I believe it was used to transfer certain chemicals rapidly through the cell membrane so that when it was frozen it there wouldn't be nearly as much tissue damage from the cold...
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Old 2008-09-30, 15:54
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Default Re: Anyone used DMSO?

how can I get "seriously sick" from 2 thinks that are both safe to put in your body? I just want a more detailed explanation of why I can have transdermal or sublingual thc made from butane hash oil which is like the purest form of thc you can make at home.
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Old 2008-10-01, 02:31
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I think this answers my question http://www.racoon.com/herpes/main/dmso.htm
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Old 2008-10-01, 04:18
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how can I get "seriously sick" from 2 thinks that are both safe to put in your body? I just want a more detailed explanation of why I can have transdermal or sublingual thc made from butane hash oil which is like the purest form of thc you can make at home.
Your not thinking that there may be more than just 2 things passing through your skin... your looking at various bacteria also passing through that ordinarily wouldn't....
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Old 2008-10-02, 00:52
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Default Re: Anyone used DMSO?

do you think dissolving my hash oil in everclear and drying it out will kill all the bacteria in it and make it "safe"? I would obviously use sterilized equipment and latex gloves for all of this.
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Old 2008-10-02, 07:40
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DMSO gives you garlic breath and sucks as a transdermal when using large quantities. Dries out your skin, and leaves you itchy if you don't strip down and sponge yourself with water for the following half hour after application.

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do you think dissolving my hash oil in everclear and drying it out will kill all the bacteria in it and make it "safe"? I would obviously use sterilized equipment and latex gloves for all of this.
It isn't the bacteria that you should be worried about, it's about every other fucking thing in that hash oil that is about to be absorbed into your skin that shouldn't be. Only use pure solvents and substances.
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Old 2008-10-02, 08:16
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DMSO gives you garlic breath and sucks as a transdermal when using large quantities. Dries out your skin, and leaves you itchy if you don't strip down and sponge yourself with water for the following half hour after application.



It isn't the bacteria that you should be worried about, it's about every other fucking thing in that hash oil that is about to be absorbed into your skin that shouldn't be. Only use pure solvents and substances.
No, it IS about the "bacteria".

Human skin, at any given time, hosts a myriad of microscopic organisms on its surface.

"They" don't harm you, because your skin does its job. It doesn't fucking matter how much you wash your hands, you will not be able to "sanitize" your skin completely.

But if you feel lucky, go ahead, give it a whirl. Its not likely that something will squeeze through that your body wont be able to handle. But there are countless blood born pathogens, i would not want to be in contact with... in the presence of DMSO.

But, personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a stupid Stoner get the alphabet of hepatitis....
With your attitude, you will get into trouble, during your lifetime.
Why do we need to persuade you to NOT to do something, that's your parents job?
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Old 2008-10-02, 21:55
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But, personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a stupid Stoner get the alphabet of hepatitis....
With your attitude, you will get into trouble, during your lifetime.
Why do we need to persuade you to NOT to do something, that's your parents job?
This.
Hydroponichronic, you got told, niggah!
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Old 2008-10-02, 23:01
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you should really consider trying this, youll be a fucking trailblazer, they might even write a book
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Old 2008-10-06, 21:31
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thanks for the constructive criticism. I bet you guys really get off to flaming people online, this is probably the only way you people can build any self esteem. You could've just told me why it wasn't safe instead of trying to tell me I'm stupid. Now that someone finally answered my question and told me about how DMSO takes bacteria through the skin I won't bother buying any.
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There seems to be some connection between DMSO and Ave2...perhaps you can tell me what that's all about Ave? Meta banned you for a week because you mentioned it in the phenylalanine thread. And yea, people have mixed it with lsd and put in on doorknobs and such with ensuing luls.


That's awful. I could not imagine anything much worse then an involuntary acid trip.
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Old 2008-10-07, 01:08
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That's awful. I could not imagine anything much worse then an involuntary acid trip.

meh, if you had tripped before, you would know pretty quickly...

I wouldn't mind if someone randomly dosed me if i didn't have any plans to drive a car or do anything that day....

things could be worse...

you could break someones legs, leave them in the middle of the desert and give them a thermos filled with distilled water and lsd... drink or die of dehydration... drink and trip with broken legs while still dying of dehydration... either way its not going to end well...
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meh, if you had tripped before, you would know pretty quickly...

I wouldn't mind if someone randomly dosed me if i didn't have any plans to drive a car or do anything that day....

things could be worse...



yah, you could leave your dorm, go directly to class, and be hitting an acid trip halfway though an exam
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Old 2008-10-07, 21:37
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yah, you could leave your dorm, go directly to class, and be hitting an acid trip halfway though an exam

not a bad idea, acid makes you a lot smarter in my experience
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