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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-05-04, 01:33
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Cutting Technique
What is a solid, average percentage of "cut" to mix in with relatively pure(tested GC/MS) Cocaine HCl? I'm trying to find an equilibrium between profit and strength. What do you guys think?
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#2
 2008-05-04, 01:44
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Re: Cutting Technique
clean it urself and then put however much in until u think is strait. use urself as the guinea pig.
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#3
 2008-05-04, 01:47
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Re: Cutting Technique
First of all, don't cut it. Rock it up, and go sell it that way. Or just sell grams for like $20+ the normal price.
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#4
 2008-05-04, 01:56
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Re: Cutting Technique
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Originally Posted by 187coopa
clean it urself and then put however much in until u think is strait. use urself as the guinea pig.
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It's already 97.3% clean.
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#5
 2008-05-04, 01:57
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Re: Cutting Technique
Well average is like 40-60ish, isn't it? Go for 60-75%.
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#6
 2008-05-04, 02:12
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Re: Cutting Technique
Your coke is 97.3% clean? Does that mean 97.3% of it is completely uncut cocaine? Cause that kinda sounds like bullshit..
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#7
 2008-05-04, 02:21
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Re: Cutting Technique
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Originally Posted by Pooter
What is a solid, average percentage of "cut" to mix in with relatively pure(tested GC/MS) Cocaine HCl? I'm trying to find an equilibrium between profit and strength. What do you guys think?
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If you really did some substantial analytical work, I honestly think you can merely sell it at a very boosted premium price.
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#8
 2008-05-04, 02:32
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Re: Cutting Technique
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Originally Posted by struggling artist
Your coke is 97.3% clean? Does that mean 97.3% of it is completely uncut cocaine? Cause that kinda sounds like bullshit..
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No, that means that 2.7% is impurities. Not necessarily cut. It is probably from the cleaning. I know that .3 freaks some of you out, but that wasn't intentional, it's just what the [cocaine] happened to be when it was analyzed. All it takes is precise measurements, proper glass and careful lab procedure(which is like 5hrs of work for me:( ).
If you really did some substantial analytical work, I honestly think you can merely sell it at a very boosted premium price.
My idea is that I could either sell it with "premium" pricing, and only the rich could buy it. But if I cut it down a bit, then more people would be able to afford it, and it would go faster.
Btw, I have almost no experience with cocaine besides doing it about 6 times in my life. All I know is chem and some mostly forgotten highschool honors economics...
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#9
 2008-05-04, 03:24
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Re: Cutting Technique
you are in over your head, tough guy. go to college and learn how to make a living the right way, without worrying about the pigs.
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#10
 2008-05-04, 03:31
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Re: Cutting Technique
All I know is chem and some mostly forgotten highschool honors economics...
I lol'd.
I'd say go with 70% and ~$50 per gram.
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#11
 2008-05-04, 03:32
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My idea is that I could either sell it with "premium" pricing, and only the rich could buy it.
Poor people will find a way to buy good coke. Keep it pure and jack up the price. I know I'd be much more satisfied buying pure coke at a higher price.
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#12
 2008-05-04, 05:49
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Originally Posted by whitelightning
you are in over your head, tough guy. go to college and learn how to make a living the right way, without worrying about the pigs.
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That's the thing dood. I am a sophomore in collage. Neuroscience and Chem are my major and minor. I learned all this shit in collage(actually probably high school).
Poor people will find a way to buy good coke. Keep it pure and jack up the price. I know I'd be much more satisfied buying pure coke at a higher price.
You have a point. I guess it's like weed too, where most people would rather have $20 of med stuff rather than $20 of mersh.
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#13
 2008-05-04, 12:46
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Re: Cutting Technique
Id rather have a 20 of some mids than 20 of dank, being I get to smoke more, even if Im not getting "super stoned" and shit .
But When we are talking coke, I want to have to do as little as possible to be fucking geeked.. The more you cut, the more their noses will be fucked up, the less likely they are to come back because they will be unsure of the quality.
Plus, the news of good, especially 97.3% pure coke spreads like california wildfires, just dont fuck with anything like 1/8ths of grams, 1/4's , maybe 1/2's because youll just end up selling ~25 - 30 dollars halfs the rest of your career..
And if you confident, let them bump some before they buy it..
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#14
 2008-05-04, 14:10
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To know how much cut to add, purchase cocaine from around your area and GC/MS that shit.
Find your percentage, make your cocaine statistically significantly more pure, people buy your 'fire' coke, profit ?????
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#15
 2008-05-04, 15:38
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Re: Cutting Technique
Don't cut it. Sell smaller doses of full strength instead. Cutting shit is dirt. Price should be relative.
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#16
 2008-05-04, 15:54
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Originally Posted by Affect
Don't cut it. Sell smaller doses of full strength instead. Cutting shit is dirt. Price should be relative.
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You don't sell "smaller doses". You sell the same amount, but for $10-20 extra per gram.
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#17
 2008-05-04, 16:00
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slang dat shit on da bloc
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#18
 2008-05-04, 16:27
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If your being serious and fucking around with a game your unfamiliar with then you sir are going to need a pistol..
not real advice, don't do what I say...
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#19
 2008-05-04, 18:42
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Listen man, Just cut the entire bag from 3.5 to 7 grams of cut per oz, that will keep the cuts down, you'll still have bomb coke, and you will get an extra 100-200 dollars per oz sold.
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#20
 2008-05-04, 22:00
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Originally Posted by oxydose
If your being serious and fucking around with a game your unfamiliar with then you sir are going to need a pistol..
not real advice, don't do what I say...
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Yeah, it's a weird setup. I have a friend who's friends with most coke fiends in my area, himself being one too. We went in on together, and we mutually agreed that I should hold/sell it and have him find the hookups and make the individual deals seeing as he is a fiend.
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#21
 2008-05-05, 01:13
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You are NOT cut out for this job, as is painfully obvious from what I've read so far, however I will say something.
Don't cut, it's morally wrong, and if you think that selling coke can't get any worse, then yeah it can... if you cut. What I say is jack up the price, or sell in bulk (wholesale, what kind of quantities are you buying?). One thing that your high school economics didn't tell you is that coke addicts will pay any price for their fix, especially if they think you've got bomb shit (because if it's as pure as you say, then yeah it'll be good), even if the price is high, I guess you could say that this is a luxury good. When we were kids, we used to pay premium for shit that we thought was good, and by god we paid, looking back it was probably cut with ephedrine and we were too doped to really see that.
Tell them that it's uncut and pure, let them try it. If you build it, they will come.
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#22
 2008-05-05, 01:59
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Re: Cutting Technique
I would say to cut it a little just so that people don't OD. All the cokeheads I know that have been fiending and just got a bag want to do a big line. That's just fine with the normal bullshit, but if it's that pure, they might OD. Not too much, but enough so that you can safely do a decent size line.
Also, if you're going to have an admitted coke fiend sell shit for you, make him pay for it up front. You will get ripped off otherwise.
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#23
 2008-05-05, 02:27
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Re: Cutting Technique
some of it sell at a high grade premium price, you could easily double the price of a normal gram, don't fuck with this batch....
you'd want a better than average product, so even if its half cut half original uncut coke, your in the clear, and can still sell for a premium [obviously not double]. be wise with the cutting agent though..
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#24
 2008-05-05, 02:58
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Re: Cutting Technique
I would say to cut it a little just so that people don't OD. All the cokeheads I know that have been fiending and just got a bag want to do a big line. That's just fine with the normal bullshit, but if it's that pure, they might OD. Not too much, but enough so that you can safely do a decent size line.
Or you could just tell them to take it easy...
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#25
 2008-05-05, 04:04
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Re: Cutting Technique
Or you could just tell them to take it easy...
And an eight-ball or more per day addict who hasn't had any blow for half the day is gonna listen? Fuck no. They're gonna go "Ok, this guy has some fire. I've been told this before." and do a good size line and possibly have a heart attack. And God help you if you sell to someone who IVs.
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#26
 2008-05-05, 04:39
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Re: Cutting Technique
If people in your area get 50% cocaine and pay $40 dollars for a gram and you have 100% cocaine then logically you would charge $80 for it.
Obviously, no one will believe that you have 100% cocaine and no one would pay $80 dollars for a gram.
Therefor, you could cut your cocaine down to 65-75% cocaine and sell it for 15-25% moar or $45-50.
No one will believe that you have uncut cocaine, and you won't get any moar customers then the next guy for having the same cocaine.
It is not "morally wrong" to cut your cain to match/beet the competition.
I'm actually looking to buy a quarter of cocaine and would like to purify it via basing and salting back. I will not try to act like a Columbian drug lord and sell pure cocaine, I will cut it back and sell as is but keep the remaining for myself.
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#27
 2008-05-05, 16:52
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I don't know why the fuck everyone is telling you to sell this shit premo. They're probably all pissed that they got ripped off before with shitty coke but that shit happens. Cut it up not so much at first and sell it for the cheap price you initially want to sell. Then when you have good client base put more cut in until you are making profit and still have a decent product. Theres no fucking morals here, you are selling drugs and doing so to make money.
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#28
 2008-05-05, 20:29
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Re: Cutting Technique
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Originally Posted by TheBlackPope
If people in your area get 50% cocaine and pay $40 dollars for a gram and you have 100% cocaine then logically you would charge $80 for it.
Obviously, no one will believe that you have 100% cocaine and no one would pay $80 dollars for a gram.
Therefor, you could cut your cocaine down to 65-75% cocaine and sell it for 15-25% moar or $45-50.
No one will believe that you have uncut cocaine, and you won't get any moar customers then the next guy for having the same cocaine.
It is not "morally wrong" to cut your cain to match/beet the competition.
I'm actually looking to buy a quarter of cocaine and would like to purify it via basing and salting back. I will not try to act like a Columbian drug lord and sell pure cocaine, I will cut it back and sell as is but keep the remaining for myself.
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Yeah if the price is high people are gonna get skeptical about how "bomb" your coke is, and end up buying their usual shit and being satisfied.
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#29
 2008-05-06, 00:20
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Re: Cutting Technique
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Originally Posted by TheBlackPope
If people in your area get 50% cocaine and pay $40 dollars for a gram and you have 100% cocaine then logically you would charge $80 for it.
Obviously, no one will believe that you have 100% cocaine and no one would pay $80 dollars for a gram.
Therefor, you could cut your cocaine down to 65-75% cocaine and sell it for 15-25% moar or $45-50.
No one will believe that you have uncut cocaine, and you won't get any moar customers then the next guy for having the same cocaine.
It is not "morally wrong" to cut your cain to match/beet the competition.
I'm actually looking to buy a quarter of cocaine and would like to purify it via basing and salting back. I will not try to act like a Columbian drug lord and sell pure cocaine, I will cut it back and sell as is but keep the remaining for myself.
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A QP or a quarter ounce? and why don't you just uncut your personal stash and sell the rest as is, if you are just going to cut it again... Saving on solvents.
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#30
 2008-05-06, 00:55
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Hahaha morals? Money.
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#31
 2008-05-06, 01:06
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That's the thing dood. I am a sophomore in collage. Neuroscience and Chem are my major and minor. I learned all this shit in collage(actually probably high school).
You have a point. I guess it's like weed too, where most people would rather have $20 of med stuff rather than $20 of mersh.
for a guy in college you sure know how to spell and your sentences are beefy.
btw how did you learn about all of these complex chemicals to not realize there are substances that have properties of cocaine yet dont cost 5% of what cocaine does?
i still think ur a retarded 15 y/o
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#32
 2008-05-06, 05:53
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for a guy in college you sure know how to spell and your sentences are beefy.
btw how did you learn about all of these complex chemicals to not realize there are substances that have properties of cocaine yet dont cost 5% of what cocaine does?
i still think ur a retarded 15 y/o
Go look in my post about Dimethocaine in the lab tips benzocaine thread. As I've previously stated, I'm not trying to get fucked up. I'm trying to make money selling good cocaine, and I'm not willing to put my name on cheaper rip off alternatives.
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#33
 2008-05-07, 01:24
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Re: Cutting Technique
A QP or a quarter ounce? and why don't you just uncut your personal stash and sell the rest as is, if you are just going to cut it again... Saving on solvents.
Lol quarter OZ, I'm not hardcoar times 4..
I do not know how pure the cain is. I want to end up w/ 2g pure for myself, and cut the rest to be able to sell to make my money back.
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