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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-04-30, 10:59
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DUMBRELLA 
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Codiene initial tolerance
Hi there
I've been experimenting with opiates lately, only codiene at the moment really. I know, most of you consider codiene "hardly an opiate", but it's all that's available to me at the moment, and seems like a safe one to start with.
My problem is, I'm unsure of my doasges. Over the past month or so, I've tried taking 80, 100 and now 150mg of codiene phosphate. At all of the doses, a very similar effect was had, I was only slightly sleepy. This wasn't like a high at all. Just as if i was a bit tired.
Does anyone have advice on what I should do relating to my next dose? I'm thinking upping it to 180mg, and then trying it on a completely empty stomach. Does a small amount of food in your stomach slow codiene uptake that much?Any suggestions why I might not be experiencing a proper high? My method of ingestion is just CWE, then mixing with a bit of sprite to mask the taste and swallowing on an empty (or near) stomach.
Any advice is appreciated
Edit: Gah, I don't know why the word parachuting popped to mind. I'm ingesting it.
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#2
 2008-04-30, 11:06
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Re: Codiene initial tolerance
Take 240 mgs on as empty of a stomach as you can possibly make it (fasting will improve it tenfold), drink plenty of water with it. No need to really parachute it, and drinking anything besides water can mess with the pH levels of yr stomach causing absorption to maybe increase, maybe decrease - it all depends but stick with water. Soda is horrible for you anyway.
I would also suggest laying down and practice breathing techniques. Nothing fancy, just focus on yr breath, slowing it down, being relaxed...Then notice the warm euphoria...oh yeah, that's nice...mmmm...
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#3
 2008-04-30, 12:04
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silverballs 
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Re: Codiene initial tolerance
Your not buying packs of panadeine or nurofen-plus are you?
How can you not love that bitter codeine phosphate taste?
Honestly, i find the codeine buzz on it's own to be incredibly lame.
Adding booze or weed or both to a 150-200mg dose isn't too bad though, good for boring nights all alone. :)
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#4
 2008-05-01, 07:19
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DUMBRELLA 
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Re: Codiene initial tolerance
Yeah, I'm using phosphate from nurofen plus.
I thought mixing it with alcohol was a bad idea? I've tried with weed, but it was pretty strong bud anyway, so I'm not sure if it was the influence of the pot, or having taken Codiene.
Will be trying ~240mg at some point next week. I might have a toke if it's not hitting me enough, and see if that helps the effects.
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#5
 2008-05-01, 07:27
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silverballs 
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Re: Codiene initial tolerance
Well i didn't mean you should go out and scull a bottle of JD with it.
Try a six pack of beer or a bottle of wine. :)
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#6
 2008-05-04, 07:33
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Re: Codiene initial tolerance
Well, i took 256mg of Codiene last night (20*12.8), and had a pretty good experience.
It was also my first time with a gravity bong, I toked 5 1.5L bottles of smoke, and had at least a couple more cones through my bong, before the codiene. The codiene's effect wasn't that noticeable. It seemed to supress the munchies I normally get after I smoke that much. No itching or any other side effects were noted. I did feel slightly nauseous at some point, but that could have been due to the marijuana.
I was alone all evening, and was pretty much glued to my bean bag all the time, staring out the window at the cityscape in a trance, and observing the quite noticeable visual effects of the weed at that dosage- slight colour effects, and a slight lag behind my vision and reality, and lights in the dark making a blurred light trail when I moved my eyes. My usual weed high is a very hyper one, so it was quite different for me. I was keen to mix some alcohol in with the two, but even in my drug-fucked state, it seemed unwise to mix depressents, considering the amount of bud I'd smoked already...
Over all, not bad at all, but to be honest, I think I prefer the effect that I usually get on weed to that of weed mixed with codiene. I'll keep a 72-pack of nurofen in my stash, just in case I'm in the mood for ultra laxxed out high, but I definitely don't think it's gonna become a regular for me. Over all, it seems not too good value for money, but it compliments the weed nicely, in certain moods, and places. It's not the kind of drug I'd be that keen on using on it's own, it's a bit too subtle to fully enjoy.
Out of interest, what dosage could it be safe to go up to with codiene, me weighing about 75 kgs, and of skinny build...
Would mixing other opiates (hydrocodone or oxycontin) with marijuana give good effects, and not be too unsafe?
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#7
 2008-05-04, 08:37
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Re: Codiene initial tolerance
hydrocodone + weed is one of my favorites
<3 to gobble up some norcos and hit the pipe
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#8
 2008-05-05, 02:00
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Re: Codiene initial tolerance
<3 to gobble up some norcos and hit the pipe
I love smoking weed with any opiate/opioid. BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD!
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#9
 2008-05-05, 04:42
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Re: Codiene initial tolerance
120-400 mg
might try the combo soem time
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