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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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 2008-04-30, 01:55 |
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 Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
At 5:45 I crushed a 40mg Teva:
http://www.myalgia.com/Treatment/oxyc032a.jpg
and parachuted it.
At 6 I start to feel good, and I'm still feeling that same way ...one hour later.
I thought you people @ totse all claim that bioavailibility is higher via oral then intranasally.
Obviously I'm not high. Well, sorta but not at all. When I snort 40mg OxyContin I nodd the fuck out and am completley euphoric and set.
The only reason I didn't snort this is because apparently Tevas gell up in your nose.
What went wrong?
Edit- For some reason the pic is making it look circular, click on the link to show the real shape...
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#2
2008-04-30, 02:01 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
Hi
What is your previous opiate use? Do you have a tolerence? Because im if you have a tolerence then the effects may not be to great off of just 40 mg, of a genaric brand. I couldn't think of any other reasons why you wouldn't be feeling it too much.
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#3
2008-04-30, 02:30 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
Absorption through your stomach is slower, but the high lasts longer. When you snort it you get more high and then just trail down from there, while eating it keeps you at a low constant high.
And plus they may be putting something anti-abuse that still slows absorption when its crushed up, I read about a 4 to 6 year old book in my health class that said the O.C. manufacturers had to make oxy's less abusable in atleast three years.
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#4
2008-04-30, 02:33 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
I think its because it hits you over a longer time. Snorting it would hit you get absorbed much faster and last shorter but is more intense. Total opposite orally
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#5
2008-04-30, 02:34 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
Because Teva is a soulless harpy set on sucking all enjoyment and satisfaction from the world, THAT'S WHY!
Shoulda posted here first dude. Parachuting a Teva is like breaking it into four pieces, eating one, and throwing the other three in the toilet. Teva oxycodone employs the most horrific anti-abuse gelling agent I've ever seen.
The powder you tenderly wrapped in TP? it all turned into a gigantic pile of XR CRAP when it hit your stomach.
When I still did oxy, I came across these alot more often than I'd like.
However, I did find a method of getting 99% of the oxy to hit at once:
Get a mixer, ya know, the kind your mom used to use for making whip cream from heavy cream and sugar.
Or maybe that was just my mom.
Anyway, then get some kind of hard alcohol, let's say JD for now. Pour around an ounce of liquor (2 shots) into a wide-topped glass, and add a few squirts of lemon juice. DO NOT use lemon juice you squeezed yourself, the pulp acts as a island for the gel to clump on to. You want the cheap, nasty lemon juice you can get at any rite-stop. This is to reduce the PH of the concoction, as the gel doesn't form as well in highly acidic conditions. I've found that the gel doesn't get nearly as repulsively chunky when alcohol is added, hence the JD.
Now for the real magic: Most Mixers have two 'blades', take one off. Insert the other into your cup of lemon JD, and start it off on medium. Make sure there is no splashing. Now, take your FINELY POWDERED (we're talking confectioner's sugar, people) Tevas, and SLOWLY pour them into the solution. Make sure the powder falls into the liquid, and not onto the spinning mixer blade.
Once all the powder is in, continue to mix, gradually raising the mixing setting to high, for a minute or two.
Pull the mixer out, and immediately chug. Fill cup with warm water and drink to get any residual. Scrape off any residual that gelled up with your finger, and lick it up.
Feel free to lick the mixer blade, too. Sooo much better than whip cream...:p
I've found that on an empty stomach, I'll peak in about 20-30 minutes.
It's a pain in the ass, but it works. Really fucking well. I've yet to find a method around Tevas that is as indistinguishable from name brand OC as this. |
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#6
2008-04-30, 02:35 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
I thought you people @ totse all claim that bioavailibility is higher via oral then intranasally.
Only if you are use to stimulants already, it is in or around the same realm.
Or is it amphetamines?
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#7
2008-04-30, 02:39 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
Only if you are use to stimulants already, it is in or around the same realm.
Or is it amphetamines?
What?
Oxy isn't a stimulant, and amphetamine is ALSO absorbed better orally than intranasally. (snorted)
And oxy IS absorbed better orally. There's not much of a rush though, and people who have snorted\banged OC from day one might feel this absence of a rush and mistakenly think that they aren't as high as if they would have snorted it.
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#8
2008-04-30, 02:51 |
Aces N 8S
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
amphetamine is ALSO absorbed better orally than intranasally. (snorted)
Nope.
oral = 20-25%
intranasal = 75%
source:
http://www.chemeurope.com/lexikon/e/Amphetamine
(in the bar on the right)
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#9
2008-04-30, 02:56 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
*_*
Are you fucking serious.
Wow, well that explains why todays' experiment with amphetamine and white wine was so dull.
I was sure oral amphetamine had a significantly higher bioavailability than intranasal...ugh, wish I had found this out a few hours ago.
Oxy, on the other hand, I know for SURE has a higher oral bioavailabilty than snorted. Up to almost %20 more, i think...(ceiling absorption of snorted is something like 67%, ceiling of oral is 84% iirc) |
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#10
2008-04-30, 02:58 |
Aces N 8S
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
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Originally Posted by N0 W4RN1NG
*_*
Are you fucking serious.
Wow, well that explains why todays' experiment with amphetamine and white wine was so dull.
I was sure oral amphetamine had a significantly higher bioavailability than intranasal...ugh, wish I had found this out a few hours ago.
Oxy, on the other hand, I know for SURE has a higher oral bioavailabilty than snorted. Up to almost %20 more, i think...(ceiling absorption of snorted is something like 67%, ceiling of oral is 84% iirc) |
yeah thats right.
the averages are even greater. intranasal average is high 40s while oral is mid 80s |
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#11
2008-04-30, 03:02 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
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Originally Posted by N0 W4RN1NG
Because Teva is a soulless harpy set on sucking all enjoyment and satisfaction from the world, THAT'S WHY!
Shoulda posted here first dude. Parachuting a Teva is like breaking it into four pieces, eating one, and throwing the other three in the toilet. Teva oxycodone employs the most horrific anti-abuse gelling agent I've ever seen.
The powder you tenderly wrapped in TP? it all turned into a gigantic pile of XR CRAP when it hit your stomach.
When I still did oxy, I came across these alot more often than I'd like.
However, I did find a method of getting 99% of the oxy to hit at once:
Get a mixer, ya know, the kind your mom used to use for making whip cream from heavy cream and sugar.
Or maybe that was just my mom.
Anyway, then get some kind of hard alcohol, let's say JD for now. Pour around an ounce of liquor (2 shots) into a wide-topped glass, and add a few squirts of lemon juice. DO NOT use lemon juice you squeezed yourself, the pulp acts as a island for the gel to clump on to. You want the cheap, nasty lemon juice you can get at any rite-stop. This is to reduce the PH of the concoction, as the gel doesn't form as well in highly acidic conditions. I've found that the gel doesn't get nearly as repulsively chunky when alcohol is added, hence the JD.
Now for the real magic: Most Mixers have two 'blades', take one off. Insert the other into your cup of lemon JD, and start it off on medium. Make sure there is no splashing. Now, take your FINELY POWDERED (we're talking confectioner's sugar, people) Tevas, and SLOWLY pour them into the solution. Make sure the powder falls into the liquid, and not onto the spinning mixer blade.
Once all the powder is in, continue to mix, gradually raising the mixing setting to high, for a minute or two.
Pull the mixer out, and immediately chug. Fill cup with warm water and drink to get any residual. Scrape off any residual that gelled up with your finger, and lick it up.
Feel free to lick the mixer blade, too. Sooo much better than whip cream...:p
I've found that on an empty stomach, I'll peak in about 20-30 minutes.
It's a pain in the ass, but it works. Really fucking well. I've yet to find a method around Tevas that is as indistinguishable from name brand OC as this. |
Huh. Would I get moar high from just taking the pills as is or crushing them up?
That extraction sounds like a bust. I'll try it tho, thanks. |
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#12
2008-04-30, 03:07 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
If ya don't wanna go through the trouble of using the mixer method, do this:
Suck off the coating, crush 'em up FINE, and add to hot water. (NOT boiling, not hot enough to burn you even, shower temp water)
While you [slowly] pour in the Teva, vigorously stir the concoction with a fork\spoon. Once it's all in, chug it quick, and fill back with hot water, chug again, scrape sides, lick fork\spoon, etc.
It's not as good as the mixer method, but it's a TON better than parachuting\popping 'em whole.
EDIT: and to answer your question, both popping whole and parachuting suck major balls, but parachuting would definitely be a little better than popping whole
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#13
2008-04-30, 03:48 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
look i realize this probally wasn't the intent you had but....
when going to abuse the XR side of OC, you have to take time release into account. which means if 40mgs at once gets you off, you double it. your getting that first 40mgs, and 40mgs spread out in a longer duration. which, hits you like a sack of bricks and while not financially wise, is a junkie's wetdream. true fact.
sense doing more seems out of the question for you, and you already took em, well, sorry charlie.
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#14
2008-04-30, 04:51 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
Don't buy Tevas. They gel up, making abuse damn difficult. Whereas the Purdue OxyContins are just happy in a pill, waiting to be used by all the curious boys and girls.
Make sure you buy these next time:
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/uploads/371625-0112.gif
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#15
2008-04-30, 04:53 |
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
^ Didn't purdue stop producing the 160mgs? Has anyone here actually even seen one of those somewhere?
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#16
2008-04-30, 14:49 |
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FRMNGTN,NH,US,NA,E,MW,Universe
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
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Originally Posted by cid
^ Didn't purdue stop producing the 160mgs? Has anyone here actually even seen one of those somewhere?
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I have never seen 160's. If I still had any interest in any of the opium based chemicals that is what I would be after.
Also OP, always do a Pill ID before buying any pharm. |
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#17
2008-04-30, 15:05 |
Aces N 8S
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Re: Parachuted 40mg OC 1hour ago, what's wrong? Nothing is happening.
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Originally Posted by cid
^ Didn't purdue stop producing the 160mgs? Has anyone here actually even seen one of those somewhere?
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yeah, they're all looong gone. |
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