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 #1 
Old 2008-04-28, 00:18
MRS. HAI MRS. HAI is offline
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Default Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

Salvia.

i heard of the drug awhile back, and wanted to try it since it was legal and all.
my friend told me it was really scary for him, so it was kind of a turn off.


then CNN just had a thing on salvia today.

i proceeded to watch videos with kids tripping on salvia on youtube, then i read all the info i could find.


now i'm motivated to go try it.

keep in mind, i've never smoked pot just because i can still tell my parents i dont smoke weed.
but i've experienced the effects of pot before.


should i try salvia? is it really that deep and enlightening of a trip?

and who else here has tried it?




move this thread if its in teh wrong forum...
 #2 
Old 2008-04-28, 00:19
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

Its crazy shit thats for sure, see you on the other side my azn friend.
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Old 2008-04-28, 01:08
Yorimasa Yorimasa is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

I like salvia, except it makes me sweat like a MOTHERFUCKER, and it makes my eyes hurt like shit.
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Old 2008-04-28, 01:13
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0omniloKAL
Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

Salvia.

i heard of the drug awhile back, and wanted to try it since it was legal and all.

If that's your reason, don't.
 #5 
Old 2008-04-28, 01:14
mr.biggles mr.biggles is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

I like it. You have to hold your hit for a long time and get ready to forget time and see some freaky shit.
 #6 
Old 2008-04-28, 01:17
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

Try it, I did it once and tripped pretty hard. I forgot what I had taken and how to move and was basically glued to my chair. It was scary for a little bit, but once you get past that its a pretty cool experience.
 #7 
Old 2008-04-28, 01:23
Unseeen Unseeen is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

salvia is weird shit...

i did the "blue" kind from this headshop, the packages didn't say the concentration but blue was the highest level.

anyway, i remember feeling like i was stuck in my chair. i tried to lean forward and it felt like something was pushing me back.
 #8 
Old 2008-04-28, 01:42
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

My mates tried it the other day... and wasted my fucking salvia. The smoke was too harsh for them, they coughed half way through the hit and it seemed to stop them from breaking through, this was through a bong. So dont be a pussy, get an entire full lungful of smoke, hold it for 30 seconds and you'll break through.

I guess you don't know what breaking through is. With salvia below a certain dose the effects are quite mild, you feel stoned and a bit giggly, this isn't breaking through. My god you'll know when you have broken through.
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Old 2008-04-28, 01:58
MRS. HAI MRS. HAI is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

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Originally Posted by Anon-User
My mates tried it the other day... and wasted my fucking salvia. The smoke was too harsh for them, they coughed half way through the hit and it seemed to stop them from breaking through, this was through a bong. So dont be a pussy, get an entire full lungful of smoke, hold it for 30 seconds and you'll break through.

I guess you don't know what breaking through is. With salvia below a certain dose the effects are quite mild, you feel stoned and a bit giggly, this isn't breaking through. My god you'll know when you have broken through.


lol does it really matter if its 5x or 80x? (in terms of taking more 5x hits rather than one 80x)?
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Old 2008-04-28, 02:04
weirdlittlepotsmoker weirdlittlepotsmoker is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

I hate that shit. Made me feel good for a couple of minutes, and then I come down and feel like crap for a half-hour. Ive tried it twice and it did the same thing both times. I wouldnt even bother with it.
 #11 
Old 2008-04-28, 02:12
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I tried 10 x today, its like a 5 minute shroom trip. The bad part about it is you can't understand what is going on. It's too fast for you to comprehend anything that is happening.
 #12 
Old 2008-04-28, 03:29
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

If that's your reason, don't.

Please shut the fuck up and stop trying to act like StudiousIgnorance.
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Old 2008-04-28, 03:32
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0omniloKAL
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I'm just saying you won't have an enjoyable experience if you do it for the wrong reasons.
 #14 
Old 2008-04-28, 03:33
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

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Originally Posted by Vanhalla
I'm just saying you won't have an enjoyable experience if you do it for the wrong reasons.


Who decides what the right reasons are? You?
 #15 
Old 2008-04-28, 03:47
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

Who decides what the right reasons are? You?

And who decides whats enjoyable?

Good and bad are subjective, but he is clearly saying that if you do smoke salvia with X intention, then you will not have an enjoyable expereince, in his opinion of what would make the expereince enjoyable. It is clear that in his opinion, X intention is therefore the wrong intention.

You disagree with that?
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Old 2008-04-28, 03:50
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on a pharm
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all this speak of intentions

listen to the song "intension" by tool

while tripping

*thumbs up*
 #17 
Old 2008-04-28, 03:58
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0omniloKAL
Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

Well, when you are in a loud room with 7 other people with a lot of noises and distractions and one of them says, "you guys wanna try this legal drug I saw at a smoke shop today, my friend said it makes everything spin around and your body feels all tingly, then you laugh a lot."

Having done no previous research and not having the slightest idea of what they are getting into they say, "yeah, lets try it."

This would be the wrong for a few reasons.
Horrible environment, recreational situation, no research has been done, their minds are completely unprepared.
This will result in waisted salvia because they will smoke it wrong, and mixed in with the horrible environment, a horrible experience will happen.

Maybe you like waisting money and having unpleasant experiences.
Personally, I think that is just stupid.
 #18 
Old 2008-04-28, 04:01
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

And who decides whats enjoyable?

Good and bad are subjective, but he is clearly saying that if you do smoke salvia with X intention, then you will not have an enjoyable expereince, in his opinion of what would make the expereince enjoyable. It is clear that in his opinion, X intention is therefore the wrong intention.

You disagree with that?

Yes, he was stating it as if it was fact. Like he is some sort of authority on shamanic spiritual experiences (like he does in all the other bullshit salvia threads that magically popped up tonight.).



Maybe you like waisting money and having unpleasant experiences.


I don't buy the shit.
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Old 2008-04-28, 04:08
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0omniloKAL
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I don't buy the shit.

You still experience it.
Do you really like waisting all that potential?
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Old 2008-04-28, 04:24
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Yes, he was stating it as if it was fact. Like he is some sort of authority on shamanic spiritual experiences (like he does in all the other bullshit salvia threads that magically popped up tonight.).

Maybe he is. Have you considered that?

Maybe he's not. Have you considered not caring? Ignoring what he says? Not letting it piss you off?

You can't control what he says or does, but you can always control how you react to it. Have you considered which choice is the wisest?

Trying to have control over him only creates temporary happinesses, a +1 for your ego, the fulfillment of a simple desire that is now gone and part of the past, if it was ever fulfilled at all. Not caring, and simply choosing to be happy creates a lasting happiness, a greater fulfillment which applies to any situation.

But what the fuck do I know, maybe by trying to control things you have no control over and not controlling the things which are within your control, your reactions, you find a greater happiness then I could ever comprehend.



Oh. When I asked you if you disagree with it, I did not mean my summarization, I meant do you disagree with what he is saying? That using drugs with different intentions will cause different experiences, and that if X intention causes a negative experience, X intention could be called a "wrong" intention?
 #21 
Old 2008-04-28, 04:28
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

fkkk intention

you get what you deserve!
 #22 
Old 2008-04-28, 04:54
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

nope its not enlightening at all...

but it is one hell of a ride if you break through... take a hit off the bong, hold for 30-40 seconds and wait for reality to go bye bye... using a torch lighter helps...
 #23 
Old 2008-04-28, 05:07
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

nope its not enlightening at all...

maybe for those of you FLOUNDERING IN DARKNESS LIKE FISH IN A BARREL
 #24 
Old 2008-04-28, 05:19
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

maybe for those of you FLOUNDERING IN DARKNESS LIKE FISH IN A BARREL

im sorry that i cant find much meaning in being in a white abyss with an infinitely stretching system of triangles made of candy canes and people... or the same white abyss with a giant red and white circus tent...

i just don't get much out of the experience...
 #25 
Old 2008-04-28, 05:58
Zapphle Zapphle is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

im sorry that i cant find much meaning in being in a white abyss with an infinitely stretching system of triangles made of candy canes and people... or the same white abyss with a giant red and white circus tent...

i just don't get much out of the experience...

Well then drugs are wasted on you.
 #26 
Old 2008-04-28, 18:40
MRS. HAI MRS. HAI is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

forget you guys, i'm gonna try salvia.

its gonna be in a quiet calm enviroment with a few of my friends.

the end
 #27 
Old 2008-04-28, 19:14
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Basement
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what strength? I did 10 x and tripped pretty hard for about 5 minutes.
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Old 2008-04-28, 23:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseeen
salvia is weird shit...

i did the "blue" kind from this headshop, the packages didn't say the concentration but blue was the highest level.

anyway, i remember feeling like i was stuck in my chair. i tried to lean forward and it felt like something was pushing me back.


lol obviously didn't trip salvia, fag.
 #29 
Old 2008-04-29, 09:10
illuminatikiller illuminatikiller is offline
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Default Re: Trying Salvia. Any opinions?

lol obviously didn't trip salvia, fag.

I've had mild experiences like that, so it's very possible he isn't lying. My first time smoking pretty much all that happened was I got the salvia gravity and when I talked my voice sounded like E-40, so I started rapping.
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Old 2008-04-29, 15:19
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10x is probably good for your first time.
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Old 2008-04-30, 00:14
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Originally Posted by Anon-User
10x is probably good for your first time.


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