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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-04-27, 23:50
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illuminatikiller 
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Bullshit CNN story about salvia
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/04/27/finnstrom.salvia.fears.cnn
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#2
 2008-04-27, 23:57
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
California assembly man Anthony Adams :
" It is just a chilling thought to think that especially a teenager, who is already struggling with hormones, to have this altered state of reality."
LULZ
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#3
 2008-04-28, 00:05
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Circular Buttsecks Chain 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
What? The news is lying about drugs? No wai! They would never do that.
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#4
 2008-04-28, 00:20
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
I seriously hate it when "concerned mothers" go on a crusade against something they know jackshit about, then fake-cry on the camera to get people to feel sorry for her.
Fuck, I need to stop watching these things.
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#5
 2008-04-28, 00:22
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Salvia has sooo much potential, when applied to the inner realms.
You must prepare yourself before hand for an hour long mediation session, so much can be learned when used properly.
Unfortunately most people are to stupid and the majority of society is not ready for this type of knowledge.
Maybe it would be better not to be able to get it at smoke shops.
If the shamen deems you to be ready, only then will you embark upon this journey.
It is pathetic, the degrading way many entities use this sacrament.
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#6
 2008-04-28, 01:02
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
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Originally Posted by Vanhalla
Salvia has sooo much potential, when applied to the inner realms.
You must prepare yourself before hand for an hour long mediation session, so much can be learned when used properly.
Unfortunately most people are to stupid and the majority of society is not ready for this type of knowledge.
Maybe it would be better not to be able to get it at smoke shops.
If the shamen deems you to be ready, only then will you embark upon this journey.
It is pathetic, the degrading way many entities use this sacrament.
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Dude... shut the fuck up!!!
I am sorry, but I can't stand all your fucking mumbo jumbo! ... by entities do you mean people!?
Fuuuuuck.
I bet you are like... 17, living in your mom's basement.
BTW it's spelled 'Shaman'
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#7
 2008-04-28, 01:05
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Yorimasa 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Dude... shut the fuck up!!!
I am sorry, but I can't stand all your fucking mumbo jumbo! ... by entities do you mean people!?
Fuuuuuck.
I bet you are like... 17, living in your mom's basement.
BTW it's spelled 'Shaman'
^^^Person who achieved enlightenment via salvia.
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#8
 2008-04-28, 01:09
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
BTW it's spelled 'Shaman'
lol, I knew some boeotian would come along say that.
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#9
 2008-04-28, 01:52
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Dude... shut the fuck up!!!
I am sorry, but I can't stand all your fucking mumbo jumbo! ... by entities do you mean people!?
Fuuuuuck.
I bet you are like... 17, living in your mom's basement.
BTW it's spelled 'Shaman'
Wow.
You need to shut the fuck up, because you obviously know nothing about what you are talking about.
Are you spiritual at all?
If so, you would know, and could relate to the spiritual usage that Vanhalla is talking about.
He is very right-on on this subject. You should listen and learn from this man, he knows much.
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#10
 2008-04-28, 03:00
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Krees 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Sorry, already been posted.
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#11
 2008-04-28, 03:03
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ilovechronic 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
already been posted.
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#12
 2008-04-28, 03:05
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Later in the video, they talk about a kid who killed himself from using salvia.
I call bullshit.
I haven't actually watched the video, but I'm willing to bet they're talking about the same kid used to start this whole salvia-becoming-illegal crap.
He killed himself, he was depressed with life. He used salvia, and also did some before committing suicide if I remember right. His parents decided to blame his suicide not on his depression, but on salvia use.
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#13
 2008-04-28, 03:08
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Krees 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
But really, "entities" may be going a bit too far into the spiritual word-heap.
I totally agree though. A christian kid I knew decided he would have a "crazy" night and do some Salvia. He just talked about pizza slices for thirty minutes or so.
It has much to show, if you are willing to look.
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#14
 2008-04-28, 03:21
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consciouscowboy 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Wow.
You need to shut the fuck up, because you obviously know nothing about what you are talking about.
Are you spiritual at all?
If so, you would know, and could relate to the spiritual usage that Vanhalla is talking about.
He is very right-on on this subject. You should listen and learn from this man, he knows much.
Spiritual? Give me a fucking break, its just Salvia.
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#15
 2008-04-28, 03:22
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illuminatikiller 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
I think he stopped using salvia months before he killed himself.
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#16
 2008-04-28, 03:25
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
im so tired of hearing that lady bitch about her dead son. shes in liek every fucking story about salvia. there is no wway to prove salvia had anything to do with it.
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#17
 2008-04-28, 03:27
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consciouscowboy 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
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Originally Posted by 42Oinchrims
im so tired of hearing that lady bitch about her dead son. shes in liek every fucking story about salvia. there is no wway to prove salvia had anything to do with it.
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She is milking the fuck out of it. Everybody gets their 15 minutes.
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#18
 2008-04-28, 03:30
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
I can't really remember but I think he wrote a letter saying something like.
How can I continue living in this world when I've gained a glimps of the infinite.
or something to that effect.
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#19
 2008-04-28, 05:01
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
......boeotian.....
I lol'd.
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#20
 2008-04-28, 05:07
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
FOX News just did a special report on Salvia, and how it is corrupting your kids. Oh well... It was fun while it lasted, ignorance has won.
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#21
 2008-04-28, 05:10
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Stock up, boys.
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#22
 2008-04-28, 05:27
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
losing salvia will make me cry
cry crimson tears of blood and amber speckled whimsies of days long past
/cut cut
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#23
 2008-04-28, 05:36
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
In the U.S. they are thinking of making it illegal. They're bringing the case to the Senate. Some guy over exaggerates and says " What if that kid was behind the wheel?".And then some older guy says, " I was addicted to Salvia, it ruined my life and got me in debt." The whole news piece just got me mad. And then they had the nerve to end the news coverage with, " There's too much Salvia, and not enough time."
Lame dicks.
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#24
 2008-04-28, 05:39
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
time to claim a salvia church? use it as a holy sacrament.
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#25
 2008-04-28, 05:39
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
It's already Illegal here in illinois. And I lost my little thing of 30x when I moved to my current apparetment.
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#26
 2008-04-28, 05:40
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Salvia is alright, but I wouldn't smoke that over bud.
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#27
 2008-04-28, 05:42
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
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Originally Posted by Relentless
time to claim a salvia church? use it as a holy sacrament.
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who's down? I could easily write up some scriptures etc or something
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#28
 2008-04-28, 05:55
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
fucking fuck... i blame youtube...
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#29
 2008-04-28, 05:56
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
who's down? I could easily write up some scriptures etc or something
Yea better start it while its still legal most places
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#30
 2008-04-28, 06:12
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illuminatikiller 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
I tried to start a church when I got ordained over the internet. It didn't work out though 'cause my friends didn't take it seriously and when we met for church we'd just sit around and smoke ganja. Our god was a bear rug and our sacraments were weed, salvia, and alcohol.
I 'spose I use salvia like a sacrament 'cause I smoke it to communicate with the Salvia Goddess.
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#31
 2008-04-28, 06:22
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Wait a minute.... Misdemeanor? Regulation?! NOOOOOO!!!
*Cries in frustration*
Fuck, and not even four years to go....
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#32
 2008-04-28, 06:33
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illuminatikiller 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
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Originally Posted by spartan_420
Wait a minute.... Misdemeanor? Regulation?! NOOOOOO!!!
*Cries in frustration*
Fuck, and not even four years to go....
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I wish it was just a misdemeanor here. North Dakota made it schedule I, so just fucking possession is felony. Some guy in Bismarck is being charged with intent to distribute 'cause he had 8 ounces of plain leaf. Our lawmakers suck cock.
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#33
 2008-04-28, 07:19
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
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Originally Posted by Relentless
time to claim a salvia church? use it as a holy sacrament.
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Lets do it.
I'm planing on using some on the morrow, maybe I'll use that as my focus.
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#34
 2008-04-28, 07:24
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
I wish it was just a misdemeanor here. North Dakota made it schedule I, so just fucking possession is felony. Some guy in Bismarck is being charged with intent to distribute 'cause he had 8 ounces of plain leaf. Our lawmakers suck cock.
Well damn, dude, that sucks....
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#35
 2008-04-28, 07:27
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Lets do it.
I'm planing on using some on the morrow, maybe I'll use that as my focus.
Has your friend replied yet? :(
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#36
 2008-04-28, 07:31
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Yeah.
Plans changed, I've been slacking off, I'll contact the other guy soon, and send you an email.
Key word: The crow caws at noon
when the time comes, you'll know what that means.
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#37
 2008-04-28, 07:34
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
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Originally Posted by Vanhalla
Yeah.
Plans changed, I've been slacking off, I'll contact the other guy soon, and send you an email.
Key word: The crow caws at noon
when the time comes, you'll know what that means.
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Damn, I hope so. 
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#38
 2008-04-28, 07:48
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illuminatikiller 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
weird (http://edible.com/shop/browse.php?cmd=showproduct&productId=21)
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#39
 2008-04-28, 08:19
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
This is interesting
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/salvinorin/toc.shtml
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#40
 2008-04-28, 08:30
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Zapphle 
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
weird (http://edible.com/shop/browse.php?cmd=showproduct&productId=21)
Salvia divinorum infused lollipop
You may find your animal spirit if you eat it
Magic mint is used by the Shamans of the Sierra Madre oriental
Hand made mint flavoured lollipop, contains leaf extract of Salvia Divinorum (diviners sage), Magic Mint as it is also known.
This plant has been used by the shamans of Mexico for centuries as part of their rituals. It is said theat by consuming Magic Mint you may be able to find your animal spirit!
USE WITH CAUTION!
Hmm wonder how much there is in each one..
This sounds like a pretty good idea around the taste of salvia, cept that it takes a while to get through a lollipop, maybe its just on the outside
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#41
 2008-04-28, 10:06
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
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Originally Posted by Bleeding_Fetus
I seriously hate it when "concerned mothers" go on a crusade against something they know jackshit about, then fake-cry on the camera to get people to feel sorry for her.
Fuck, I need to stop watching these things.
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That's what bugged me the most.
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#42
 2008-04-28, 10:56
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Spirituality is a bunch of bullshit, always has been and always will be. The fact that drugs can make you feel like there is or isn't a god or there is or isn't an after-life yada yada just proves that they alter your brain chemistry.
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#43
 2008-04-28, 17:16
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
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Originally Posted by Relentless
time to claim a salvia church? use it as a holy sacrament.
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Charlie Manson all over again.
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#44
 2008-04-28, 18:59
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DONT WORRY ABOUT IT.
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Re: Bullshit CNN story about salvia
Some asshole kid that had pre mental problems smoked salvia=blew his brains out..salvia in his system= BLAME ON SALVIA
Just bulshit, and then stores sell it super Xtracted to these asshole kids who just smoke it and fuck around.....surfacing bulshit use of substances in ridiculous ways then HEY GUESS WHAT...ILLEGAL
thanks to the newest generation of kids...dumb fucks.
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#45
 2008-04-30, 00:13
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Originally Posted by Inti
Spirituality is a bunch of bullshit, always has been and always will be. The fact that drugs can make you feel like there is or isn't a god or there is or isn't an after-life yada yada just proves that they alter your brain chemistry.
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^^^Opinion, not fact.
Edit: although 95% of the spiritual shit that people come up with while tripping is pure nonsense.
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