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 #1 
Old 2008-04-23, 02:56
Jaykis Jaykis is offline
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i got this wonderful court ordered box in my house that randomly calls and checks my BAC. i had it last summer as well, so i know the ins and outs of their system alright. when it fails, it doesn't just tell you that you failed, but it makes a different tone and they call back in 10min. this happened last summer and i was locked up even after trying to use the excuse of cough medicine. last night me and a couple friends got hammered fuckin knee walkin drunk, i got in sometime between 3-5am and passed out on the couch. 9am the phone rings and i take the breathalizer and fucking failed. i see my PO on thursday.... any ideas of what i could say that might keep me outta jail? cough medicine failed... i'm thinkin i should say mouthwash? or somethin.
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Old 2008-04-23, 02:59
jvm222 jvm222 is offline
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Admit you have a problem and go to rehab. Better than jail.
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Old 2008-04-23, 03:02
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I guess you can try saying you used mouth wash but it depends out what you blew on the breathalyser.
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Old 2008-04-23, 03:09
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the machine doesn't show any numbers... couldn't have been too high after sleepin for a few hours.
i'll take rehab if she wants more than a few months in jail. if it's a choice of 30 day rehab vs 30 days in jail, i'll take the jail with work release.
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Old 2008-04-23, 03:10
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Originally Posted by jvm222
Admit you have a problem and go to rehab. Better than jail.


nothing but truth here, a po will like that you have admitted that you have a "problem" and will most likely try and help you out
 #6 
Old 2008-04-23, 03:10
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....Get caller ID?

Don't answer those calls when your drunk....

Seriously....

You probably deserve some jail time if you keep drinking despite knowing you can easily get caught. Idiot. Stop fucking drinking you alcky piece of shit.

....Time to get drunk....
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Old 2008-04-23, 03:10
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Originally Posted by Jaykis
the machine doesn't show any numbers... couldn't have been too high after sleepin for a few hours.
i'll take rehab if she wants more than a few months in jail. if it's a choice of 30 day rehab vs 30 days in jail, i'll take the jail with work release.


Alright well if it isnt that long then sure. I just know of a repeat dui offender who got 2+ years.
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Old 2008-04-23, 03:12
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Thats insane! 2 plus years in jail for drinking??

How old are you? WTF did you do to get in this situation?


If your risking jail time to get drunk you have a problem and should probably go to rehab for your own benefit. Just walk in and flat out say I'm an alcoholic and I can't stop drinking.
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Old 2008-04-23, 03:20
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Thats insane! 2 plus years in jail for drinking??


no, he said 2 DUI's. 2 years is a deal considering that he got 2 DUI's, most likely within a few years of each other.
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Old 2008-04-23, 12:50
weirdlittlepotsmoker weirdlittlepotsmoker is offline
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Default Re: failed a breathalizer

Mouthwash.

Ive never heard of this before. What happens if your not home? Do you get arrested for not answering the phone?
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Old 2008-04-23, 13:02
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Originally Posted by Jaykis
the machine doesn't show any numbers... couldn't have been too high after sleepin for a few hours.
i'll take rehab if she wants more than a few months in jail. if it's a choice of 30 day rehab vs 30 days in jail, i'll take the jail with work release.


They do not grant work release at county for little pussies who can't handle a 30 day stint.

God damn. You have obviously never been to jail, take the rehab and shut your mouth.
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Old 2008-04-23, 13:40
Jaykis Jaykis is offline
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actually, http://www.allegancounty.org/Government/SD/COR/Programs.asp?
they do. i did 30 days the first time for possesion (with work release!), and then last year did 180 days for assault on a police officer (definatly worth every day of it lol)

if i don't answer within 2 calls they call my PO and probably send an officer out.
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Old 2008-04-23, 14:27
weirdlittlepotsmoker weirdlittlepotsmoker is offline
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Originally Posted by Jaykis
actually, http://www.allegancounty.org/Government/SD/COR/Programs.asp?
they do. i did 30 days the first time for possesion (with work release!), and then last year did 180 days for assault on a police officer (definatly worth every day of it lol)

if i don't answer within 2 calls they call my PO and probably send an officer out.


Damn. I would definitely say that you just used mouthwash right before you took the breathalizer. You took it in the morning, so thats probably your best chance. Im not going to say it will work though cause I have no idea what you blew. Isnt their anyone around that could blow for you? If the PO isnt around surely in ten minutes time you can find someone and pay them 10 bucks to blow in it for you.

Between what hours are you supposed to stay at home?
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Old 2008-04-23, 14:33
Jaykis Jaykis is offline
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weekdays i can't leave until 1pm and have to be home by 11pm (2nd shift)
weekends i have to be here the whole time. no one else can blow for me because it snaps a little picture as well. maybe blow up balloons while sober... then some how conceal the balloon and let it blow into the breathalizer??
 #15 
Old 2008-04-23, 14:35
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I've gotta love the idea of the kid whose stupid enough to get caught, but smart enough to make sure he brushed his teeth before he blew, particularly when he was waking up out of a dead drunk. I'm sure the court will buy that without any questions.
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Old 2008-04-23, 14:41
weirdlittlepotsmoker weirdlittlepotsmoker is offline
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I blew a .2 when I was driving at 19 years old. Told the officers I just used mouthwash, and they took me in for a feild sobriety test and an additional breathalizer. The second one I took I had 30 minutes to call a witness, which was enough to get the 2 beers I drank out of my system, and I blew a 0.0. Case was dismissed.

Im not saying it will work, but it might be better then just admitting he was drunk. Especially if he only blew a few points over 0.0
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Old 2008-04-23, 14:50
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Originally Posted by weirdlittlepotsmoker
I blew a .2 when I was driving at 19 years old. Told the officers I just used mouthwash, and they took me in for a feild sobriety test and an additional breathalizer. The second one I took I had 30 minutes to call a witness, which was enough to get the 2 beers I drank out of my system, and I blew a 0.0. Case was dismissed.

Im not saying it will work, but it might be better then just admitting he was drunk. Especially if he only blew a few points over 0.0


Indeed, but in this case, I think providing a witness will be far more difficult for him to swing. If they're checking up on him enough to warrant this fascist setup they're using, I don't think the mouthwash routine will work.

Hell, if it did, this would be the first time I've ever heard of the mouthwash claim working period.
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Old 2008-04-23, 15:02
weirdlittlepotsmoker weirdlittlepotsmoker is offline
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Lol, Im going back in forth with you on 2 different topics. If you want my personal opinion I dont think it will work either. Its just the best advice I can think of to give him. Feel me?
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Old 2008-04-23, 15:14
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yeah. i agree it's a better defense than admitting it. admitting it is what got me here. me and my buddy left the rig and got a couple 22ozers. we got stopped, we both blew legal, but i'm on probation so they reported this to my PO. i admitted having a couple beers after work, next thing i know i'm blowin in a damn machine every couple hours. admittence is a ticket to jail. for sure.
but like i also said, i tried the cough syrup excuse last summer and that was a ticket to jail too.
maybe absconding is the best choice.
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Old 2008-04-23, 20:13
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yeah. i agree it's a better defense than admitting it. admitting it is what got me here. me and my buddy left the rig and got a couple 22ozers. we got stopped, we both blew legal, but i'm on probation so they reported this to my PO. i admitted having a couple beers after work, next thing i know i'm blowin in a damn machine every couple hours. admittence is a ticket to jail. for sure.
but like i also said, i tried the cough syrup excuse last summer and that was a ticket to jail too.
maybe absconding is the best choice.


I'd say you have a problem, but I do the same shit, you are just unlucky..

Switch to benzos maybe, and study for your drug tests, it's out of your system pretty quick anyway.
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Old 2008-04-23, 22:59
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Well if you're too fucking stupipd to not drink when you're in such a situation - or don't fucking care enough - don't come here asking how to bail your sorry ass out. This is Better living through chem, not stupid fucking living....
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Old 2008-04-23, 23:13
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Originally Posted by Jaykis
weekdays i can't leave until 1pm and have to be home by 11pm (2nd shift)
weekends i have to be here the whole time. no one else can blow for me because it snaps a little picture as well. maybe blow up balloons while sober... then some how conceal the balloon and let it blow into the breathalizer??


Of course, take a picture of yourself blowing into the machine from the camera's POV, set it up in front of the machine, then build a vastly elaborate mouse-trap type contraption (you know, with rolling bowling balls and dominoes and magnifying glasses burning a string holding a cat over a pot of chili, that sort of thing) set up to empty a balloon of your breath into the machine every time the phone rings. Bulletproof.

And for your current situation, just tell the judge your drunk mom was yelling at the BAC thinking it was the telephone.
edit: Oh, and add on that your mom was wearing the mask of your face that she wears whenever she's had a few.
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Old 2008-04-23, 23:13
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Well if you're too fucking stupipd to not drink when you're in such a situation - or don't fucking care enough - don't come here asking how to bail your sorry ass out. This is Better living through chem, not stupid fucking living....


Exactly. He should probably get help.

Fucking alcky piece of shit. If your risking jail time to drink, then your pretty fucked up.
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Old 2008-04-24, 02:09
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Goddamn you Americans have some crazy fucking shit. I've never heard of anything like this outside of a sci-fi movie.

Just... wow.

Okay I'm assuming this is the US. Please correct me if I am wrong by all means. This is madness.
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Old 2008-04-24, 03:15
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Did you read what you signed when you first went into the probation office? Most probation agreements, when they forbid alcohol consumption, forbid all forms of it. For example, they will likely forbid the use of any products containing alcohol and explicitly forbid the use of a mouthwash that contains it.
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Old 2008-04-24, 14:04
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Originally Posted by Metaphysicist
Well if you're too fucking stupipd to not drink when you're in such a situation - or don't fucking care enough - don't come here asking how to bail your sorry ass out. This is Better living through chem, not stupid fucking living....


hey i guess i'm just keepin up an old family tradition. i'm leavin to see the PO in a few. if i don't post again, you'll know what happened.
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Old 2008-04-24, 14:15
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hey i guess i'm just keepin up an old family tradition.

Shut the fuck up Bocephus, you ain't no Hank Williams Jr.
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Old 2008-04-24, 14:26
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Shut the fuck up Bocephus, you ain't no Hank Williams Jr.

lol. no, but i am whiskey bent and hell bound. i was wonderin where ya went cowboy. where's your horse?
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Old 2008-04-24, 14:35
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I gave myself a mouthwash enema a few years ago. I don't recommend it.
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Old 2008-04-24, 14:44
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it's a breathalizer...so why the fuck did you drink? Why didn't you use one of the MANY MANY other drugs that wouldn't have shown up?
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Old 2008-04-24, 14:54
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i usually only drink when i know they arn't gonna call for awhile and i don't usually drink as much. but alcohol has a way about it, where you stop caring about consequences. other drugs are not an option, piss tests. and my company is threatening hair folical tests in the near future.
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Old 2008-04-24, 17:47
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Haha 2 DUIs? I got 2 in a two year period and the worst thing that happened was that my license was suspended for 6 months. I drove those 6 months anyway and didn't get pulled over... and I was 17-18.

Where the fuck do you live?
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Old 2008-04-25, 00:33
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Originally Posted by weirdlittlepotsmoker
I blew a .2 when I was driving at 19 years old. Told the officers I just used mouthwash, and they took me in for a feild sobriety test and an additional breathalizer. The second one I took I had 30 minutes to call a witness, which was enough to get the 2 beers I drank out of my system, and I blew a 0.0. Case was dismissed.

Im not saying it will work, but it might be better then just admitting he was drunk. Especially if he only blew a few points over 0.0


Those must have been two really big beers. I think you mean you blew .02, not .20.
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Old 2008-04-25, 01:13
weirdlittlepotsmoker weirdlittlepotsmoker is offline
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Those must have been two really big beers. I think you mean you blew .02, not .20.

Lol, you called it. I always mix somehting up when I post high. :)
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Old 2008-04-25, 02:40
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Originally Posted by HandOfZek
I gave myself a mouthwash enema a few years ago. I don't recommend it.


Only you, Zek.
 #36 
Old 2008-04-25, 04:40
Jaykis Jaykis is offline
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so here's what happened - she wasn't buying the mouthwash theory, so i half admitted it, i said i accidenty took a drink of my roommate's drink from the previous night. i was reminded of the rules saying i cannot have any alcohol in the house at all. i said i told him that and that i didn't know he even had the alcohol. she pretty much warned me and basicly since i have my fines paid is the only reason she isn't going to violate me. also she said if i blow anything ever again i'm getting 3 xtra months with this machine and she'll recommend out patient treatment.
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Old 2008-04-25, 05:17
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just drink at like 9-10 at night and wake up at 7-8 am and go for a run n get it out of your system. i doubt theyll call at those hours because people sleep and its rude.. lol. can you explain this machine more, sounds rediculous.. also for kicks you should do it naked and show them your ass in the camera ahah.
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Old 2008-04-25, 06:22
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Yeah, take a pic of this thing.
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Old 2008-04-25, 22:12
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http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8420/banb2.jpg

you answer the phone, push the BAT button. when the green light blinks you blow in the straw, it snaps a picture from behind the one way mirror. then sends it over the phone line to D.O.C.

and yes they are very rude, they call at all hours of the night even if i have to work.
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Old 2008-04-26, 00:42
illuminatikiller illuminatikiller is offline
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I think we should boycott Mitsubishi.
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Old 2008-04-26, 00:46
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I think we should boycott Mitsubishi.


/agree

I didn't even know that they had shit like that.
Fucking brutal man
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Old 2008-04-26, 01:13
illuminatikiller illuminatikiller is offline
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/agree

I didn't even know that they had shit like that.
Fucking brutal man

Me either. I've heard about the breathalyzers in cars that people have to blow into before they can start it, but I've never heard of one being in a person's home like that.
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Old 2008-04-26, 03:01
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Originally Posted by Jaykis
i usually only drink when i know they arn't gonna call for awhile and i don't usually drink as much. but alcohol has a way about it, where you stop caring about consequences. other drugs are not an option, piss tests. and my company is threatening hair folical tests in the near future.

Just keep every inch of your body shaved under an inch and then they can't do hair follicle tests.
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Old 2008-04-26, 15:50
Jaykis Jaykis is offline
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Just keep every inch of your body shaved under an inch and then they can't do hair follicle tests.

understand that i work on a drilling rig, if anyone was to start shaving their pits, arms and legs he would definatly get his ass kicked and thrown in the reserve.
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Old 2008-04-26, 18:09
illuminatikiller illuminatikiller is offline
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understand that i work on a drilling rig, if anyone was to start shaving their pits, arms and legs he would definatly get his ass kicked and thrown in the reserve.

That's retarded. Some of my friends worked on oil rigs and they said pretty much everyone uses drugs there, so I'd think that everyone would shave their whole body if they were threatened with a hair test.
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Old 2008-04-26, 21:18
Jaykis Jaykis is offline
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That's retarded. Some of my friends worked on oil rigs and they said pretty much everyone uses drugs there, so I'd think that everyone would shave their whole body if they were threatened with a hair test.

some places don't test. when working for McLachlan drilling the tool pusher would get high with us right while working. now i'm on the 2nd biggest rig in the state, working for a crew that is all "straight laced" (except for getting shit faced every day after work) well worth it, i'll break $100k this year if i stay with them.

but it is true that most smaller drilling companies don't care and most roughnecks are known for thier drug use, paticularly coke and meth due to the long hours and long drives.

edit: i wasn't saying that because of the occupation they test us, i was meaning that because of my occupation and everyone's knowlege, it would be obvious why i took all my hair off and hey'd probably start piss testing us every week.
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Old 2008-04-27, 15:09
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if i don't post again,

Fingers crossed.

Suck it up and stop drinking for 5 mins of your life.
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Old 2008-04-29, 03:21
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Lol, you called it. I always mix somehting up when I post high. :)

Accidents happen to the best of us. I remember one time when I was emailing a prospective employer, in that microsecond after pushing the send button, I saw a really obvious spelling mistake that probably resulted in me not getting the job. Damn, spelling is important.
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Old 2008-04-29, 19:59
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Don't be dumb. Tell them a buddy blew into it. They can't prove anything.
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Old 2008-05-02, 01:35
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Don't be dumb. Tell them a buddy blew into it. They can't prove anything.

if you read the thread it talks about how the machine takes a picture of you as you blow into it. also his problems been solved already. and thirdy how the fuck would that help his situation any?
 #51 
Old 2008-05-02, 02:06
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if you read the thread it talks about how the machine takes a picture of you as you blow into it. also his problems been solved already. and thirdy how the fuck would that help his situation any?

exactly. also it is voice authorized for anyone thinking of trying to outsmart it in the future.

there's a little nub that i can see down in the tube that i think is what checks the BAC... i was thinking, what if someone put a drop of hot wax on this nub and let it harden... this might isolate the checker. or this could be another felony!
 #52 
Old 2008-05-02, 02:18
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These are sobering times when a man is barred from enjoying a cold beer in his own home.
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Old 2008-05-04, 03:29
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Originally Posted by Ed Lister
These are sobering times when a man is barred from enjoying a cold beer in his own home.


It's the price you pay for endangering others lives by drinking and driving.

+1 to Mitsubishi, I will buy 5 of their cars.
 #54 
Old 2008-05-04, 04:10
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It's the price you pay for endangering others lives by drinking and driving.

+1 to Mitsubishi, I will buy 5 of their cars.

Word. I hate drunk drivers with a passion; they get everything they deserve, IMO.
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Old 2008-05-04, 14:50
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i've never been caught drinking and driving. i was drunk and assaulted a cop then got caught drinking while riding home from work. my girlfiend usually plays DD for me since if i lose my license i'd probably lose my job (depending on how long they took it)
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Old 2008-05-04, 16:00
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Last summer I was drunk and fucked up on xanax and I hit a parked car. Got my car repaired like the next day, and I didn't leave a note or anything lol.
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Old 2008-05-04, 20:42
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Last summer I was drunk and fucked up on xanax and I hit a parked car. Got my car repaired like the next day, and I didn't leave a note or anything lol.


wow, that's really funny
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Old 2008-05-04, 21:46
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I know lawyers use a nifty defense called "mouth alcohol". If you JUST used Listerine, you can blow a .08 easily just by mouth alcohol, those breathalyzers are CRAP! And next time you're wasted and they call to breath test you REQUEST a BLOOD TEST!

If YOU request a blood test, by law, it's THEIR responsiblity to get your BAC. You're not refusing, so they can't bust you with that. And most POs are lazy assholes who aren't going to come to you just to blood test you, they're job is to make phone calls...

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