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 #1 
Old 2008-04-19, 03:43
twitch1433 twitch1433 is offline
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Default how long to pass the sleepy stage?

so im in the process of my first opiate high er...trying to anyways. i took three 7.5/750mg hydrocodone about 45 mins ago. how long should it take for me to pass the sleepy stage into the calm/euphoric stage?

or is this the nod that people go for?
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Old 2008-04-19, 03:45
Jasper Jones Jasper Jones is offline
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Haha, pass the sleepy stage...

That's a good one, enjoy your first opiate buzz, try not to nod off
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Old 2008-04-19, 03:46
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Default Re: how long to pass the sleepy stage?

There is only 1 stage.
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Old 2008-04-19, 03:47
twitch1433 twitch1433 is offline
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Default Re: how long to pass the sleepy stage?

o so im already there ha ok now i know what i should be enjoying
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Old 2008-04-19, 03:48
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You think you can thuroughy enjoy "opiates" (I quote it because HC is a joke) at 22.5mg of HC?

Double that, then come back.
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Old 2008-04-19, 03:51
twitch1433 twitch1433 is offline
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Default Re: how long to pass the sleepy stage?

what would happen if i took 3 more? just more sleepy? i dont very much enjoy catching myself from falling asleep
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Old 2008-04-19, 03:51
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Default Re: how long to pass the sleepy stage?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlackPope
You think you can thuroughy enjoy "opiates" (I quote it because HC is a joke) at 22.5mg of HC?

Double that, then come back.


With no tolerance? I think he should be fine, play it safe.
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Old 2008-04-19, 03:53
Jasper Jones Jasper Jones is offline
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Default Re: how long to pass the sleepy stage?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlackPope
You think you can thuroughy enjoy "opiates" (I quote it because HC is a joke) at 22.5mg of HC?

Double that, then come back.


For a first timer? He'd puke his guts out, you gotta crawl before you sprint or something like that.

Hey OP, you got the itch yet? That always drives me crazy, as crazy as can be in an opiate nod...(maybe shouldn't have drawn attention to it...)
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Old 2008-04-19, 03:54
twitch1433 twitch1433 is offline
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thats what that is? lol my nuts are driving me insane!!!
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Old 2008-04-19, 04:10
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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didnt you jsut make a thread about doing a CWE. YOu seriously did a CWE on three vicodin. Jeez. You shouldnt waste your time with that unless you got AT LEAST 10 of the 750's. and thats only if you have to take all 10 to get high. If you have a low tolerance you dont need to do a cwe at all, unless your just doing it for fun.
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Old 2008-04-19, 04:11
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I was implying straight HC, should have mentioned that.

50 is not too much for the nontolerant, anyone who says that has obviously not taken that many opiates.

50mg HC = 33.33mg OC, orally.

http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi

Retards.
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Old 2008-04-19, 04:12
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Default Re: how long to pass the sleepy stage?

There is only 1 stage.

woot woot, yeah thats so true
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Old 2008-04-19, 04:21
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Default Re: how long to pass the sleepy stage?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlackPope
I was implying straight HC, should have mentioned that.

50 is not too much for the nontolerant, anyone who says that has obviously not taken that many opiates.

50mg HC = 33.33mg OC, orally.

http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi

Retards.


Oh you win, I'll think your way smarter and more respectable then i will ever be.
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Old 2008-04-19, 04:55
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Default Re: how long to pass the sleepy stage?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlackPope
You think you can thuroughy enjoy "opiates" (I quote it because HC is a joke) at 22.5mg of HC?

Double that, then come back.


First sensible thing I've seen you say. Ever.
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Old 2008-04-19, 04:56
Jasper Jones Jasper Jones is offline
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Default Re: how long to pass the sleepy stage?

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Originally Posted by TheBlackPope
I was implying straight HC, should have mentioned that.

50 is not too much for the nontolerant, anyone who says that has obviously not taken that many opiates.

50mg HC = 33.33mg OC, orally.

http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi

Retards.


...yeah, kinda depends on your weight. 30+ of oc makes me vomit since I'm only 135lbs. And there's no need to get so defensive and start insulting people over some unimportant internet thread.
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Old 2008-04-19, 05:04
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Originally Posted by twitch1433
what would happen if i took 3 more? just more sleepy? i dont very much enjoy catching myself from falling asleep


any nausea? at a certain point you will probably puke... but if not i would say take 1-1.5 more of them, and start nodding in a euphoric scratchy bliss...
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Old 2008-04-19, 18:25
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...yeah, kinda depends on your weight. 30+ of oc makes me vomit since I'm only 135lbs. And there's no need to get so defensive and start insulting people over some unimportant internet thread.

aahahah you are a pussy, or you are taking percosets.

My girl and all her little slut friends that are all under 110 take 40s and never throw up.
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Old 2008-04-19, 18:48
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aahahah you are a pussy, or you are taking percosets.

My girl and all her little slut friends that are all under 110 take 40s and never throw up.
You sir, are an ignorant prick. First of all, 50mg of hydro, OR 30mg oxy is more than enough to make a first timer puke. But I suppose you were born with a tolerance so high you can laugh at people for getting sick from taking what is pretty much a debilitating dose for a first timer.


You fucking fail, and though you think it may be funny for you to try and get this kid to puke, it's not fucking funny. What if he were particularly sensitive? He could end up slouched in a chair only to be discovered by parents etc. Of course it's no where near a lethal dose, but it's more than enough to knock some kid out, and ruin his good time.


You are a fucking prick. And it's not even funny when you do it. When I'm a prick like that, I make it a point to show that I am either joking, or being sarcastic with comments like that.

Telling someone to take a dose large enough that you KNOW will make them sick is fucking unacceptable.


You don't get the right to be a condescending dick you don't know jack shit about anything, making any opinion you might have totally fucking worthless.

Either make fun of him, or shut the fuck up. You don't get to try and up his dosage JUST to make fun of him.

GET THE FUCK OUT YOU WORTHLESS FUCKING PRICK.

Every single post I've seen you make pretty much EVER has been fucking worthless. You constantly fly off the handle and flame people when you yourself are no more clued in than your victim.


You aren't cool, you aren't smart, you aren't witty, and nobody thinks your ignorant antics are entertaining in the least. Again, get the fuck out, you contribute nothing but bullshit to this place.


You don't get to be a dick to people if you are on the same level as them. And you are. In fact, I constantly see you trying to flame people much smarter than you, which only discredits you more, and gets you laughed at more. Fucking faggot.
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Old 2008-04-19, 19:19
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This thread has been pretty funny so far.

Happy early 4/20
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Old 2008-04-19, 19:34
Time Out Sasquatch Time Out Sasquatch is offline
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Default Re: how long to pass the sleepy stage?

Speaking of OC I scored a free 80 yesterday. I think Jesus must love me. I got sick though, because I haven't done it in awhile, and my tolerance dropped a bit. I snorted about 50 milligrams of it. Man was my nose full of blood this morning. I hocked out probably ten lugies full of red and black blood from my nose.

It was sick, and I only think it was so bad because I had a sinus infection, and the OC made my nose really really dry. I always have bloody mucous when I have sinus infections, but this was by far the fucking worst. Did I mention how sick it was?
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Old 2008-04-19, 20:39
SilentOp47 SilentOp47 is offline
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Default Re: how long to pass the sleepy stage?

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Originally Posted by TheBlackPope
I was implying straight HC, should have mentioned that.

50 is not too much for the nontolerant, anyone who says that has obviously not taken that many opiates.

50mg HC = 33.33mg OC, orally.

http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi

Retards.


I'm gonna disagree here. It says 12mg of Hydromorphone oral is 48mg Hydrocodone. I was regularly doing 6-8mg's of HM to get a good feeling and maybe 10mg at most. But that was even after a couple weeks or so of opiate use. I'm almost 100% that 12mg's of HM for a first timer to occasional user (oxymoron maybe?) is guaranteed pukage.
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Old 2008-04-21, 05:19
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You sir, are an ignorant prick. First of all, 50mg of hydro, OR 30mg oxy is more than enough to make a first timer puke. But I suppose you were born with a tolerance so high you can laugh at people for getting sick from taking what is pretty much a debilitating dose for a first timer.


You fucking fail, and though you think it may be funny for you to try and get this kid to puke, it's not fucking funny. What if he were particularly sensitive? He could end up slouched in a chair only to be discovered by parents etc. Of course it's no where near a lethal dose, but it's more than enough to knock some kid out, and ruin his good time.


You are a fucking prick. And it's not even funny when you do it. When I'm a prick like that, I make it a point to show that I am either joking, or being sarcastic with comments like that.

Telling someone to take a dose large enough that you KNOW will make them sick is fucking unacceptable.


You don't get the right to be a condescending dick you don't know jack shit about anything, making any opinion you might have totally fucking worthless.

Either make fun of him, or shut the fuck up. You don't get to try and up his dosage JUST to make fun of him.

GET THE FUCK OUT YOU WORTHLESS FUCKING PRICK.

Every single post I've seen you make pretty much EVER has been fucking worthless. You constantly fly off the handle and flame people when you yourself are no more clued in than your victim.


You aren't cool, you aren't smart, you aren't witty, and nobody thinks your ignorant antics are entertaining in the least. Again, get the fuck out, you contribute nothing but bullshit to this place.


You don't get to be a dick to people if you are on the same level as them. And you are. In fact, I constantly see you trying to flame people much smarter than you, which only discredits you more, and gets you laughed at more. Fucking faggot.


You are a fucking faggot. Shut the fuck up.

30mg OC does NOT make any one I know puke. I do not have a naturally high tolerance, because others I know (tiny ass girls) do 40s+ and don't puke.

30mg OC does NOT put people on their ass.

I was not joking about how much he should take to "debilitate" him.

You are such a worthelss fucking junkie, Jesus Christ.

IT DOESNT MATTER IF ITS YOUR FIRST FUCKING TIME.

My first time of OC was 40. No puke, no "debilitating." No one I know would ever pay for 20mg, that is considered wasteful.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Anyone w/ any common experience w/ OC can testify that 30mg WONT DO SHIT YOU FUCKING MORON.

Go inject lidocain into your dick and try to jack off, you fucking faggot. You cheat on your wife w/ MEN you bisexual fuck.
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Old 2008-04-21, 08:28
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How the fuck can you say I know nothing of opiates, and then call me a junky? Dipshit.
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Old 2008-04-21, 08:37
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IT DOESNT MATTER IF ITS YOUR FIRST FUCKING TIME.



Hello, my name is tolerance. I don't believe we've met.
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Old 2008-04-21, 11:27
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30mg OC does NOT put people on their ass.




This is why you BLTC people freak me out. Your gauge for drugs is entirely subjective. We had a girl in the ER who was in respiratory depression with ingestion of 3 vicodin. No other drugs involved. Your experience and luck do not dictate the truth.
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Old 2008-04-22, 01:26
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This is why you BLTC people freak me out. Your gauge for drugs is entirely subjective. We had a girl in the ER who was in respiratory depression with ingestion of 3 vicodin. No other drugs involved. Your experience and luck do not dictate the truth.

reading things like this make me happy i'm not a little girl.
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Old 2008-04-22, 02:13
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TheBlackPope is right on this one, 30mg of oxycodone won't make anyone who is over 140 lb's puke. The first time I tried it I ate 30mg of oxycodone and got a buzz. I've been higher off of codeine that that.
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Old 2008-04-22, 04:08
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The first time I did hydrocodone I took 60mg in the form of hydrotussin and weighed 185lbs. I *did* puke, but it may have also been the guaf in it. I also had an awesome time, just chillin' on the bathroom floor. Take this as you will.

Oh, to have the flu again and see my doctor....



*single tear*

Yeah, I really got hydrotussin for flu and a shitton of dry cough. TWO 120mL bottles.

:)
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Old 2008-04-22, 04:40
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enjoy your first opiate buzz, try to nod offfixed.
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Old 2008-04-22, 23:07
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TheBlackPope is right on this one, 30mg of oxycodone won't make anyone who is over 140 lb's puke. The first time I tried it I ate 30mg of oxycodone and got a buzz. I've been higher off of codeine that that.



Says the acolyte.
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Old 2008-04-22, 23:23
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Says the acolyte.

You guys are none too smart.

Gonna have to go with SN on this one, back at 150 pounds 30mg OC orally could make me puke if I tried to do anything other than lie down and chill.

30mg OC insuffliated.... the above x10

LOL @ NiggerPope, u probably arent doing your durgz rite.
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Old 2008-04-22, 23:32
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Your all fucking stupid, why do you brag about how much you need to take to get high? *turns the table*
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Old 2008-04-22, 23:46
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Originally Posted by Ozzy Bot
Your all fucking stupid, why do you brag about how much you need to take to get high? *turns the table*


I am in no way trying to say how I need a lot to get high, as I said I've gotten higher off of codeine. I'm just pointing out that 30mg of oxycodone won't make me or anyone I know puke.
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Old 2008-04-22, 23:57
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I am in no way trying to say how I need a lot to get high, as I said I've gotten higher off of codeine. I'm just pointing out that 30mg of oxycodone won't make me or anyone I know puke.

Don't try to overcompensate for your acolyteness by trying to act bad ass. Tolerance is not a good thing and you aren't impressing anyone.

Usually I get pissed because of low-end dose recommendations but 30mg is perfect. Not too pussy, and not too arrogant.
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Old 2008-04-23, 23:13
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I honestly think you people are fucking w/ me.

I didn't do OC because of rehab for about 6months, then took a 40 thru the nose and BAM no throwup, but a really, really good high. My GF also took a 40 to the dome, who weighs less then 100lbs, (I don't know her toleranance but she rarely uses it now so I doubt she had any) and was FINE. All of her little fucking girl friends also took 40s thru the nose, no problem.

I read on Totse/internet about oral bio>nasal.

So we both took ~30mg oral (crushed of course) and realized it just wasn't working out after an hour (feeling good but nothing moar), then snorted 20mg and later the remains.

Wasn't feeling shit untill the 20s, then it was great, but I still feel like we wasted it for not taking 40 at once.
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Old 2008-04-23, 23:16
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Well that's great that you and two people you know have such high tolerances. I'll just enjoy only paying for 30mg if I want to get high.
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Old 2008-04-23, 23:17
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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I honestly think you are fucking with us 'moar'.
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Old 2008-04-24, 00:01
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I honestly think you people are fucking w/ me.

I didn't do OC because of rehab for about 6months, then took a 40 thru the nose and BAM no throwup, but a really, really good high. My GF also took a 40 to the dome, who weighs less then 100lbs, (I don't know her toleranance but she rarely uses it now so I doubt she had any) and was FINE. All of her little fucking girl friends also took 40s thru the nose, no problem.

I read on Totse/internet about oral bio>nasal.

So we both took ~30mg oral (crushed of course) and realized it just wasn't working out after an hour (feeling good but nothing moar), then snorted 20mg and later the remains.

Wasn't feeling shit untill the 20s, then it was great, but I still feel like we wasted it for not taking 40 at once.


Okay, so because you and your girlfriend didn't have too intense of a time, it's a good idea for you to tell some highschool kid to eat a chunky dose of something that may leave him passed the fuck out and choking on his vomit? Have you ever heard of natural tolerance? Maybe you and your friends all coincidentally have high natural tolerances. If he starts high and finds out his natural tolerance is nothing like yours or your friends he's fucked...

I know 50mgs will make me puke and be righteously fucked up and I weigh 220, I've never done that much but 30 puts me on my face...
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Old 2008-04-24, 00:53
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Maybe his nigger nose is so large that it requires a higher dose before anything gets assimilated?

Hypothesis:

Since by convention no self-righteous white girl would associate themselves with a niggerpope such as yourself, I can conclude at a 99.9% confidence level that the true race of your "girlfriend" lies in the interval [Black, Brown].

As long as my calculations check out, then I can reasonably make a prediction that your black girlfriend's nose significantly moar larger than your typical approximately normal population of nose sizes world wide.
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Old 2008-04-24, 06:20
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Originally Posted by absolutecaliber
Maybe his nigger nose is so large that it requires a higher dose before anything gets assimilated?

Hypothesis:

Since by convention no self-righteous white girl would associate themselves with a niggerpope such as yourself, I can conclude at a 99.9% confidence level that the true race of your "girlfriend" lies in the interval [Black, Brown].

As long as my calculations check out, then I can reasonably make a prediction that your black girlfriend's nose significantly moar larger than your typical approximately normal population of nose sizes world wide.


Your logic is flawed, big nigger noses=more surface area=better absorption.
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Old 2008-04-24, 17:11
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aahahah you are a pussy, or you are taking percosets.

My girl and all her little slut friends that are all under 110 take 40s and never throw up.

Their gag reflexes are broken, they don't count.
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Old 2008-04-24, 20:10
absolutecaliber absolutecaliber is offline
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Your logic is flawed, big nigger noses=more surface area=better absorption.

Well in that case I have to continue concluding, as others have concluded before me, that TheBlackPop is full of shit.
 
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