So, how many of you BLTCers use nootropic drugs or amino acids on a regular basis. Post up your experiences and what you use the substances for. I'm not trying to get banned here, but unless they are illegal you can also post your sources for these substances.

I've been using amino acids daily since the day I was born. I'd say they've had a fairly average effect on me.

not before?

Ooh damn you got me. My mom was slippin me some amino acid mickies before I was even born.

Alright, sorry, let me clarify.

I meant consuming amino acids or drugs that have a nootropic effect on the mind for their effects. Either in the form of plants/herbs, food products, or in the pure form

used to do piracetam/day now Joe's phenylalanine regemine/day. The 1st is like caffeine, the second is like caffeine plus a big improvement in mood, ability to focus, and ability to learn and do things.

how does the phenylanine regimine work for you. Do you get the "crazy" high, he said you'd you get when you smoke bud. Have you done opiates on it, i hear the L-isomer strengthens opiates.

Cool, would you mind posting the dosages you use.

A guy compiles the data, basically a how-to, on page 47 of the origional thread, here's mine:

Dosage, times, way of dosing list that worked for me:


T+0:Magnisium: 250 under the tounge for 15 min then spit out
T+15: DLPA-1000mg (parachuted)
Iron-65 (parachuted)
Folic Acid: 800mg (parachuted)
Niacin-125 (parachuted)
Caffeine:16oz coffee or 2 tsp coffee grounds
3 tomato leaves (chewed, stored under tounge, 5 min later swallowed)

T+30 1 more tomato leaf
T+45 1 more tomato leaf (usually effects kick in around this point, if not 15 min later I eat another leaf)

Positive effects: 1st time is amazing, if you dose 500mg vitamin c and 1 tablet 5-htp (something like 30mg, Joe uses sunflower seed extract instead, I think because it's cheaper) it seems to improve the experience. Basically my first time I felt the most confident I've ever felt and the most adrenaline filled I've ever felt. Daily effects are basically the positives of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine). Mainly, I can learn better, I have more motivation, and I have the confidence to follow through with the motivation.

Negetive effects: Fucking niacin flush. People are like "oh wtf is that!", if I dose too close to when school starts and it just doesn't feel that great. Also, it can get a little speedy but I think you can remedy that with St. Johns wort but I don't know the exact dosage.

Here are some other peoples ingrediant lists:

Dr. Suidides list:

Niacin - 125mg
Iron - 65mg
Magnesium - 125mg
Folic Acid - 800mg
Caffeine - 200mg
L-Tyrosine - 1200mg
1 green potato.


She Devil

L-tyrosine (500 mg)
Iron (57 mg)

In a multivitamin:

Iron 18mg
Niacin (B3) 20mg
Vitamin B6 2mg
Folic Acid (Folate) 400mcg
Magnesium 100mg

SublimeNirvana

1/2 Green Potato - rest should be spaced over the next few hours
350mg Magnesium
St. John's Wort

Wait an hour(ish)

500 mg l-pa
72 mg iron
200 mg niacin
1.6 mg folic acid (1600 ug)

+30 minutes
400 mg Caffiene


how does the phenylanine regimine work for you. Do you get the "crazy" high, he said you'd you get when you smoke bud. Have you done opiates on it, i hear the L-isomer strengthens opiates.

When I smoke bud? Haha, right now I have shit weed and it makes it so a little goes a long way. "Crazy" high would probably be if I dosed multiple times in a day/the first time. Opiates, no sorry. I have both DLPA and L-PA, from my experience DLPA works better I don't know about conjuction with opiates though.

what is the point of the potato leaves? can you omit them?

its green potato or tomato leaves. i forgot the chemical he said they had in them, but there very important to the concoction.

You guys are fucking retarded.

Potato leaves/ Tomato leaves will kill you.

Ya your right, but in higher doses.

its green potato or tomato leaves. i forgot the chemical he said they had in them, but there very important to the concoction.

solanine, its an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor and its VITAL to the concoction.

and its a greened potato OR tomato leaves. not potato leaves.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=40185

A guy compiles the data, basically a how-to, on page 47 of the origional thread, here's mine:

[insert a truckload of horseshit here]

When I smoke bud? Haha, right now I have shit weed and it makes it so a little goes a long way. "Crazy" high would probably be if I dosed multiple times in a day/the first time. Opiates, no sorry. I have both DLPA and L-PA, from my experience DLPA works better I don't know about conjuction with opiates though.

This post is absolutely retarded, joepedo can eat a bowl of dick.

On topic;

Piracetam, aniracetam, choline, multi vitamin, creatine, supplemental protein, hydergine, phenibut (occasionally)

Definite improvement in both long and short term memory along with focus. Alertness is also enhanced, never get tired during the day. Helps me think on my feet, so to speak. There are a ton of other alleged benefits, but they're not really perceptible (neuroprotection, etc.)

Creatine/protein is naturally just for physical health, which is just as important as mental.

This post is absolutely retarded, joepedo can eat a bowl of dick.


Aww, must've not worked for you. How sad.