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 #1 
Old 2008-04-18, 11:22
PuppetMaster PuppetMaster is offline
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Default salvia in a hookah

I was just wondering is it a good idea, since I don't have a bong, and i have this hookah. Any tips?
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Old 2008-04-18, 15:10
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

Is it a hookah made for smoking pot (with a slide like a bong) or a real hookah with a coal and all?
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Old 2008-04-18, 15:17
Exothermia Exothermia is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

I have heard that Salvia needs a high temperature flame to vaporize correctly so coal might not work. A lot of people recommend a direct torch lighter to the plant material. That being said, I've used Salvia for years using an ordinary Bic lighter with fine results. Your mileage may vary.

Salvia is great in a bong though. It goes down very very smooth.
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Old 2008-04-18, 15:43
Ljudska Ljudska is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

it won't work with the usual burning-coal setup that hookahs traditionally work on. you -could- get it to work with just a lighter but it'd be way better to just get your hands on a bong or bubbler.

first time I broke through was using a 1 gallon plastic juice bottle :) we did have a nice glass slide+downtube to use with it, though.
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Old 2008-04-18, 18:52
Enlightend1_Truth Enlightend1_Truth is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

Yeh, its pretty simple to make your own bong out of a bottle or anything bottle-like. Ask if you need help doing this.

Also, torch lighters are amazing for this stuff. Always recommended!
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Old 2008-04-18, 21:20
shrek45 shrek45 is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

st time with salvia i use a regular metal pipe and a bic lighter and i would say that i felt the total effect just a few seconds after the first and second hit, it was intence, but it was only 20x, i wanna try 120x through a bong just for the trip, lol
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Old 2008-04-18, 21:57
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

7x salvia, took a full lung full off of a brand new bowl with the bic held to it the entire time, harsh as fuck and my lungs felt like they were on fire... but i held it in for a full 40 seconds and then everything stated being sucked into salvialand, i dont even remember exhaling, just lay back, cram a little bit more fresh air into the lungs to make it not as harsh and to force any in my throat down, and then i was gone...

dont think it will work too well with a hookah, make a socket and bottle bong, hell gravity bong it and your going to be in for one hell of a ride...
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Old 2008-04-19, 01:41
mr.biggles mr.biggles is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

I've done 1 3 5 and 20xs without breaking through most of the time with a big so I'm going to use a torch lighter next time. I have two torch lighters one with a small fat flame and the other with a long thin and very hot flame. Which one should I use or will it make that much of a difference? Or just hold the hit longer(usually around 30sec.)?
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Old 2008-04-19, 03:43
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

if your trying to break through it wont work, hookahs just dont have that high powered rip.
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Old 2008-04-19, 04:18
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

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Originally Posted by 42Oinchrims
if your trying to break through it wont work, hookahs just dont have that high powered rip.



Bullshit. That is exactly what I used when I broke through. Same for a couple of friends too.
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Old 2008-04-19, 04:26
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

Bullshit. That is exactly what I used when I broke through. Same for a couple of friends too.

what kind of hookah? and why are you gunna single me out, a bunch of people here said it wont work. I mean fuck, you only fill up like half our lungs with a hookah, and the smoke comes so slow. at least the ones im thinking of where u use a charcoal.
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Old 2008-04-19, 07:11
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

what kind of hookah? and why are you gunna single me out, a bunch of people here said it wont work. I mean fuck, you only fill up like half our lungs with a hookah, and the smoke comes so slow. at least the ones im thinking of where u use a charcoal.

First: It was a homemade hookah.

Second: I did not single you out. There is no sense in quoting everyone who said it and yours was the first one I noticed. It's a simple as that. Nothing personal. Don't get all paranoid here.

Third: If you know how to use a hookah you don't get only half you lungs with smoke.
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Old 2008-04-19, 19:18
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Meh, assuming it is your average hookah, the bowl is very big, which makes it a pain. The coal probably won't be enough to get the effects... and in my experiences, salvia usually hits your ass fast after the hit. Why bother with a hookah, just use a pipe or something quick.
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Old 2008-04-19, 21:18
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

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Originally Posted by Monagi
Meh, assuming it is your average hookah, the bowl is very big, which makes it a pain. The coal probably won't be enough to get the effects... and in my experiences, salvia usually hits your ass fast after the hit. Why bother with a hookah, just use a pipe or something quick.



Because it's harder to break through with a non water pipe.
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Old 2008-04-19, 22:01
Scrilla Scrilla is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

Because it's harder to break through with a non water pipe.

Not true at all.

The water may make it easier, but if your not a pussy you can use just about anything.


I use an apple because it is quick and direct. The period between the burning and the intake has to be short, or else the salvinorin A. will lose its potency.
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Old 2008-04-19, 22:38
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

Because it's harder to break through with a non water pipe.

Not true at all.

The water may make it easier, but if your not a pussy you can use just about anything.



That would mean it's true. it's easier with water pipe, so it's harder to break through with a non-water pipe...
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Old 2008-04-20, 06:16
Scrilla Scrilla is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

That would mean it's true. it's easier with water pipe, so it's harder to break through with a non-water pipe...

No, because with less Salvinorin A. being ingested, the harder it is to break through (the more you have to take).
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Old 2008-04-20, 07:48
PuppetMaster PuppetMaster is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

So I'd have more chances of breaking through with a lightbulb vaporizer, than with, let's say, a gravity bong?

This really true?
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Old 2008-04-20, 16:31
Scrilla Scrilla is offline
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So I'd have more chances of breaking through with a lightbulb vaporizer, than with, let's say, a gravity bong?

This really true?


No Light Bulb Vaporizer because you will not be able to generate enough heat to efficiently harvest the Salvinorin A. from the Salvia Divinorium.

Like I said, just an apple, man. Or a regular pipe, whatever works for you, haha.
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Old 2008-04-20, 19:29
mindovermusic mindovermusic is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

I'm going to have to call bullshit. Sorry.

You don't lose potency over distance. It's all about what your lungs can handle. Water pipes make the smoke a little less harsh and allow you to take a bigger hit. Bigger hit, more sally a. But kudos for using the right active chem.
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Old 2008-04-20, 19:40
Scrilla Scrilla is offline
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Default Re: salvia in a hookah

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Originally Posted by mindovermusic
I'm going to have to call bullshit. Sorry.

You don't lose potency over distance. It's all about what your lungs can handle. Water pipes make the smoke a little less harsh and allow you to take a bigger hit. Bigger hit, more sally a. But kudos for using the right active chem.


Whatever man.

Do some research, you'll see.
 
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