I recently acquired a substance purported to be mescaline; however, I'm almost completely certain that it isn't so. I'm assuming the mystery white powder is some sort of research chemical-- of the various phenethylamines, which is most similar in effect to mescaline?

Go read Pihkal. (http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal.shtml)

You'll be able to decide better than us because we don't have it.

I'd bet money that it's a TMA* if it's being sold as mescaline. :)

Goddamnit cut that smiley shit out.
Its too... friendly.

Goddamnit cut that smiley shit out.
Its too... friendly.

Gets a bit paradoxical when i start insulting people eh? :)

Gets a bit paradoxical when i start insulting people eh? :)

Every time I see that shit I picture some little dumb fuck sitting at his computer grinning ear to ear after every post.

ive heard of people selling 2ct7 as mescline, becuase it can make you puke just like mescaline can. mescaline can come in a white powder tho.

Every time I see that shit I picture some little dumb fuck sitting at his computer grinning ear to ear after every post.

The last time i got a professional photo taken they took mine 14 times cause i wasn't smiling enough, lets just say i only put it at the end of every post to drive people like you, nuts. :)

lets just say i only put it at the end of every post to drive people like you, nuts. :)

I admire your game.

Although I'm not sure that this will help, the white powder (a hue and texture like powdered sugar) within the capsule is made up of many small clumps. I realize I haven't provided the most indicative details, but any other guesses?

how big and full is the capsule, when i did mescaline (extracted from peruvian torch), the capsule was the biggest kind you can get and was packed full. It did kinda look like powder suger, but so do Rc's.

All phenethylamines look like mysterious white sometimes clumpy powders, you're not going to be able to ID it just based on that...

If you really wanna know, the cheapest thing you could do would be buy marquis reagent, but even that is going to be inconclusive...

But if I had to bet money, I'd say a dickweed would sell 2C-E or maybe 2C-T-X as 'mescaline'. Although it may just be fucking powdered sugar and it could be basically any other hallucinogen know to man...

EDIT:

If it's a regular sized gel cap, and it's a 2CX that's in there, there's not going to be very much powder in the cap, maybe a fifth full at the most. I've only gotten gel caped RCs a few times and don't remember much quantitatively other than thinking, 'there's hardly any 2cx in this"...

If it's in a capsule i assume it's already dosed.

So i reckon this calls for a taste test. :)

The capsules are 2 cm long with a diameter of 3/4 cm, and I'd say that it's a fifth full.

well its not TMA or mescaline, if you feel real nasueas its a 2-ct-x, if you dont get real naseaus its prolly a 2c-x

All right, thanks. I'll find out soon enough.

if you feel real nasueas its a 2-ct-x, if you dont get real naseaus its prolly a 2c-x

Horse shit, 2C-E will make you just as fucking sick as its sulfurous cousins...

I doubt it's halide substituted phenethylamine, because people generally don't describe those as 'mescaline like'. But who the fuck knows what it is other than not mescaline. 2C-I is the RC I've seen sold by highschool kids and drug dumbasses because it's the least problematic of the legal phenethylamines. But I never heard of anyone other than assholes here trying to pass that shit off as mescaline, because the RCs are each their own different beast, they may seem like mescaline to someone who's never done mescaline, but it's safe to say that what you have is either not mescaline, or not enough mescaline to trip on...

The 2C-Xs that I've seen on the 'street level' are 2C-I, 2C-E, 2C-T-2, 2C-T-7, and 2C-B. Who knows if any of those were actually what the supply companies sold to the dealers. But odds are it's one of those. Probably not 2C-B though, someone would make you pay extra money for that...

It could be DOx and powdered sugar as well, or it could just be something completely inert...

Call the fucker you bought it from and ask him what it really is...

Get a test kit.

Horse shit, 2C-E will make you just as fucking sick as its sulfurous cousins...


are you kidding? 2ct7 is a guarenteed puke if you snort it, and if you dont u have 2 hours of nasuea. 2-ce and 2-ci isnt nearly that bad. obviously you havent tried 2ct7 so read some reports.

I've never done t7, but have done t2. 2ce is always a guaranteed puker for me...

SN, is the test kit really that conclusive? It always has seemed to me that'd it'd be hard to distinguish some chems from others. I imagine it'd narrow it down, but not be absolute. What is your opinion?

I've had a taste of 2c-i and it was just awesome without nausea. But with all my usauge of t7, I have yet not to vomit even if it is barely anything. I always spew on t7. I've dosed over 10 times intranasally and twice orally.

Get a test kit.

Yes, that's right! Buy a test kit! Now your only problem is finding a reliable test kit supplier... Oh wait, that's no problem at all! I just happen to sell them! What? You don't know where I sell them? Why, it's right in my signature, silly!

The word's in! I just spoke with the guy, and he said that it's 2C-E.

And you just wasted everyone's time.

well its not TMA or mescaline, if you feel real nasueas its a 2-ct-x, if you dont get real naseaus its prolly a 2c-x
Bullshit, I've puked every single time that I've taken 2c-i, 2c-e, and 2c-d. 2c-d was the worst of the three as I was puking violently for 2 hours. Don't tell me 2c-x's don't make you nauseated boy

Bullshit, I've puked every single time that I've taken 2c-i, 2c-e, and 2c-d. 2c-d was the worst of the three as I was puking violently for 2 hours. Don't tell me 2c-x's don't make you nauseated boy

ah u misread me, i said they make you LESS nasuated than 2-ct-7. ive taken all the ones youve taken minus the 2c-d. and none of them compare to how shitty you feel on 2ct7.

ah u misread me, i said they make you LESS nasuated than 2-ct-7. ive taken all the ones youve taken minus the 2c-d. and none of them compare to how shitty you feel on 2ct7.

Oops, sorry bout that :s. I have yet to try t-7 even though I've had a source for it for the last couple of months... I need to get around to that.

Oops, sorry bout that :s. I have yet to try t-7 even though I've had a source for it for the last couple of months... I need to get around to that.

ya i just got some 2-ct-7 im stoked. and if you puked from 2-ci you might be taking too much. i had a gram of of it and the only person who puked out of about 25 people was this dude i actually met on totse who shot it up. 2-ci is supposed to be the last nasueating.

ya i just got some 2-ct-7 im stoked. and if you puked from 2-ci you might be taking too much. i had a gram of of it and the only person who puked out of about 25 people was this dude i actually met on totse who shot it up. 2-ci is supposed to be the last nasueating.

Yeah it sucked, but it was the least nauseating of those three. There were probably 4-5 times out of the 20-30 that I did it that I didn't puke...

I found 2C-B to be the least nauseating for me seeing as I've yet to puke on it or even feel any nausea at all...

Evil Tree, to answer your question, yes, it just narrows it down some, in the case of SOME drugs. BUT, if you test a pill, and that fucker turns orange, and ONLY orange, that shit is METH. There are several conclusive color results possible, but for the Marquis, it only shows the presence of MDxx compounds, and not MDMA by itself, and of course several 2C compounds 4MAR (just found that myself recently, it was a happy accident) as well as a DOx or two, though I forget everything it covers, it's on erowid. I provide a link in the item descriptions lol.

I am working on getting mecke, for conclusive results on MDMA.

And with the Ehrlich reagent, it is pretty straight forward. Purple=LSD Psilocybin=reddish purple, and it tests for the presence of any indole, with whatever particular color and reaction, which means DMT and a ton of other shit. Go read TIHKAL lol.


Also, I am working on a FULL kit containing every major reagent, as well as do it yourself chromatography kits with each one.

Right now I am just working on finding the exact right materials for mass production, and then just work out a nice little instruction sheet, and with the full array of reagents, AND chromatography, you can pretty much determine exactly what is there, even if it is a mixture of several compounds.


It's the best identification you are going to get short of going balls to the wall fucking mad, and doing all kinds of separations, fractional distillation and melting point tests on larger amounts of material.


Unless you happen to have a GC/MS machine sitting in your basement..........




But, of course, your guy gets good shit, you trust him. He gets the bomb thizzles. His shits never cut, never substituted, never fake, YOUR guy hooks YOU up right.


LOL@NOOBS

Not you Evil Tree, you're cool, I just kinda went off on a tirade there.