I am currently weaning of of suboxone(by myself) And I had food posioning(stomach cramps) so I dosed about 30mgs of methadone yesterday. how long should I wait to dose my suboxone again? As of now it has been 26 hours. Remeber i am not a daily user of mdone this was 1 time. Wiill it be eliminated faster than someone that would take it daily?

If you only had it once, you don't need to wean yourself off. Just once should be enough...

You should be right in a few hours. :)

dont answer question you dont know the answer too, you almost put this dude into an opiate withdrawal. if you take suboxone while any opiate or opiod is still in your system (2-4 days) you will go into immediate withdrawals becuz of the narcon. any doctor will tell you to wait 4 days, or you will go into precipitated withdrawals.

http://www.suboxone.com/patients/suboxone/faqs.aspx#45 "see question #9"

Thankyou google, I should have asked a doctor.

OP, you'll be right, in a few more hours. :)

I did morphine(oral) for like 6 months, quit for a year. Then went to smoking black tar. And now I am just doing a short wean off of bupe. But I was hurting real bad becaus eof the food poisoning so I bought a little methadone to help me sleep. It was my first time taking methadone. I wouldnt be taking bupe if I didnt have a depndency issue.

I would wait 24 hours to be safe, though some people in this thread have absolutely no idea what they are talking about! There would be no precipitated withdrawals because his body is still dependent on the Buprenorphne (Suboxone)! He only took the Methadone once, so it would be physically impossible for his body to become physically dependent after just one dose! Therefore, you could have taken the Buprenorphine (Suboxone) 5 min. after you took the Methadone and still not experience any WD's at all! I've been on Suboxone on and off for years and know and have seen/experienced just about every possible scenario. You're all set any time you need it. Though I would imagine with Methadone having a fairly long half-life as well, 24-36 hours will be no problem at all. Basically, by the time you read this you'll be more than all set.

Take care and be safe!

ONE.

actually smart ass i know from experience im on suboxone. and aces read the link i put up there it has nothing ot with being dependent on the suboxone or not, he has other opiods on hsi receptors. if the narcon kciks it off he will go into precipitated withdraawals

actually smart ass i know from experience im on suboxone. and aces read the link i put up there it has nothing ot with being dependent on the suboxone or not, he has other opiods on hsi receptors. if the narcon kciks it off he will go into precipitated withdraawals

24 hour wait was enough since it was an acute dose of mdone. I wait 30 hours to be safe and resumed my taper where i left off. I feel good off the tiniest bit of bupe . Under 1 mg now.

24 hour wait was enough since it was an acute dose of mdone. I wait 30 hours to be safe and resumed my taper where i left off. I feel good off the tiniest bit of bupe . Under 1 mg now.

ya i guess 30 hours was enuf to get it out of yoursystem, since it was one dose. good to hear your down to 1mg, im at 8mg 3 times daily

ya i guess 30 hours was enuf to get it out of yoursystem, since it was one dose. good to hear your down to 1mg, im at 8mg 3 times daily
I am running low though but when I run out of bupe I will just tough it out. I want to get off of dope I am tired of my life revolving around it.


I got my 4 suboxone illicitly and have been doing just a quick 21 day taper. Hopefully I will get some good bud when I run out and just smoke myself retarded for the next 10 days after I run out of bupe becaus ei hear withdrawals are more prolonged.

Does anyone have any experience comnig off a low dose of bupe such as .01-1mgs? When I started on the bupe I only needed 2-3 mgs because my habit was not that much daily, but I still have dependency issues. I find it hard to wait the 24 hours to take my next little tiny dose of bupe. Not because I am sick yet but because I like the effects.

I did a 6 day taper once and they had me down to 1mg maybe 2mg i cant remember, but i felt no withdrawals.

I am running low though but when I run out of bupe I will just tough it out. I want to get off of dope I am tired of my life revolving around it.


I got my 4 suboxone illicitly and have been doing just a quick 21 day taper. Hopefully I will get some good bud when I run out and just smoke myself retarded for the next 10 days after I run out of bupe becaus ei hear withdrawals are more prolonged.

Does anyone have any experience comnig off a low dose of bupe such as .01-1mgs? When I started on the bupe I only needed 2-3 mgs because my habit was not that much daily, but I still have dependency issues. I find it hard to wait the 24 hours to take my next little tiny dose of bupe. Not because I am sick yet but because I like the effects.

I actually jumped from about 6-8mg in January when I had to report to jail for 2 months. Was kinda forced off of it. Anyway, suprisingly, I had no bad withdrawals to speak of. In fact, one of the absolute worst things you could do is anticipate and plan for the withdrawals, this makes them much worse when you start worrying about and start working yourself up about them.

Part of the reason the withdrawals were so minute, was probably part because of my past experience from jumping cold turkey from 180mg of Methadone and being on a couch for 2 months, as well as being admitted to the hospital for dehydration twice a month. It was so bad, I kind of find it a miracle that I didn't try and commit suicide, though I was really beat and had no energy to even try.

So back to the Suboxone, when I came off, the only withdrawal symptoms I really felt were really bad anxiety and restlessness, along with restless legs and not being able to sleep; this was about 3 weeks after I jumped, progressively got worse, then after about 6-7 weeks, got better day by day. Obviously in jail, their medical unit blows, so I wasn't taken care of properly (In my opinion) and it wasn't the best place to sleep/eat, but if I can make it in there, anyone can make it out here. You have access to benzos and weed if you need it, and as much immodium and pepto bismol your heart desires, I didn't :(

I think you'll be absolutely fine coming off such a low dose and only being on it for 3-4 weeks. The only thing I couldn't really handle when I was completely sober, was the CRAVINGS. Though everyone is different and I can't say you'll be the same way. I wish you good luck and all the best!

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask! Take care and be safe!

djONE.

I actually jumped from about 6-8mg in January when I had to report to jail for 2 months. Was kinda forced off of it. Anyway, suprisingly, I had no bad withdrawals to speak of. In fact, one of the absolute worst things you could do is anticipate and plan for the withdrawals, this makes them much worse when you start worrying about and start working yourself up about them.

Part of the reason the withdrawals were so minute, was probably part because of my past experience from jumping cold turkey from 180mg of Methadone and being on a couch for 2 months, as well as being admitted to the hospital for dehydration twice a month. It was so bad, I kind of find it a miracle that I didn't try and commit suicide, though I was really beat and had no energy to even try.

So back to the Suboxone, when I came off, the only withdrawal symptoms I really felt were really bad anxiety and restlessness, along with restless legs and not being able to sleep; this was about 3 weeks after I jumped, progressively got worse, then after about 6-7 weeks, got better day by day. Obviously in jail, their medical unit blows, so I wasn't taken care of properly (In my opinion) and it wasn't the best place to sleep/eat, but if I can make it in there, anyone can make it out here. You have access to benzos and weed if you need it, and as much immodium and pepto bismol your heart desires, I didn't :(

I think you'll be absolutely fine coming off such a low dose and only being on it for 3-4 weeks. The only thing I couldn't really handle when I was completely sober, was the CRAVINGS. Though everyone is different and I can't say you'll be the same way. I wish you good luck and all the best!

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask! Take care and be safe!

djONE.

when i want to jail they gave us ativan and klonidine, and something else if you came in there dependant on opiates.

when i want to jail they gave us ativan and klonidine, and something else if you came in there dependant on opiates.

Unfortunately here, the only way you were getting a benzo (Even Buspar, which I know is not a benzo, but still, to show how anal they are here) around here is if you were prescribed them on the outside and have been on them for a while, for fear of benzo withdrawal since it is deadly and they have absolutely no idea how to treat it in jail, fucking morons; AND after they confirm it with your doctor/pharmacy... THEN... when they come to dose you, the nurse crushes the entire dose, mixes it with water, then gives you the liquid to swallow in front of them...

The only thing we got for their "opiate protocol" was Clonodine, Benadryl, Phengran (Promethazine, for Nausea), Immodium and Tylenol... FOR 3 DAYS, no exceptions, and we were told to save it until we really needed it because of the short length of treatment time.

'Twas a fun, fun time had by all!

djONE.

12 hours and your fine man.I can take my subs 8 hours after a shot of skag.I guess every1s different though,but I found this out through trial and error.I got sick when I took bupe like only 3 or 4 hours later.I wait 8 but ur completely safe if you wait 12.I do meth too and take sub afterwards.Another secret too sub is that 90% of people get higher off lower doses cause of the naloxone.I get higher takin a half than I do takin the whole.Its the narcan shit kickin in after a certain amount.I found that 6 mg of sub doesnt bring out the naloxone so bad.Stick with 6mg if u want to get the closest to high,8mg and you just feel totally normal cuz the amount of naloxone.I fuckin hate this shit noone knows how to rip this fucker out of these orange pills?

I dont understand I thought naloxone was not active unless injected and bupes higher affinity causes it to take over the receptors anyway.
I am down to under a mg. I dont want to get high from bupe or any opiates/opioids anymore.

I decided to do an experiment and ceased use of my last few doses. It has been over 30 hours now and I am sure that the effects from the last dose of bupe have worn off. Withdrawals are little to non. I dont feel that bad at all and I think I may have just found the key this time.

no but if u tell them it makes u itchy they give u subutex, with no narcon. u can even shoot it, no rush tho, i dont cuz thats why i take it, too get off the needle. but it doessnt sound like your getting from a doc. since your not real quitting, maybe you are i dunno. ive never heard of anyone seperating out the nalaxone.

Now over 36 hours since last use of buprenorephine/naloxone (suboxone) and I still feel minor withdrawals with little to no traditonal symptoms. Symptoms feel mostly mental, and have to do with anxiety. depression associated with quitting opiates and withdrawal is vitrually non existent. I could see why relapse is common in the jumping off stage of buprenorphine use/withdrawal but I don't find it too uncomfortable. Like I have heard someone say "it was nothing a few beers couldn't take care of. I am also trying to limit my alchol intake to 4 beers or 4, 1.5 oz shots of spirits because i do not wish to "trade habits," as alcohol is very destructive and very easy to get.Wish me luck guys, I will need it.

40 hours total.

Seriously man, good luck.

Thats a nasty fucking habbit and the sooner you are clean, the sooner you can do things you really enjoy doing.

I am now at over 72 hours probably around 80 hours total. Raapid withdrawal from buprenorphine is not exactly a picnic but I feel it was much easier to kick than h or morphine.

Ur fuckin a right!

Unfortunately at 72 hours it has only begun..... hopefully you will be one of the lucky (few?) that experience little withdrawal.

Half lifes can vary from 24-48 hours depending on the person and the doseage. I only took 2mg at the very begining per day. And by the last day I was at probably under 1/2 of 1 mg. ,like .1-.25 mgs, and that is where I felt comfortable jumping off of buprenorphine.
I am now on day 5 and I did start to get a little anxious and also I felt a little achyness. But I have to pay the price. It wasnt bad enough as to where I was desperate to relapse but, like I said I can understand why someone may relapse coming off of bupe. But I actually do want o get clean and that is why I am doing this. I have a 1mg piece of bupe left that I could have taken anytime to abort the withdrawal but I feel like I can beat it.

when you were on it, would you say it was the worst opiod as far as not being able to piss or shit. Thats why im only using it when i have really bad cravings like once or twice a week. and i dont suffer withdrawals that way. Congrats on getting off it, hopefully u can stay of all the pk's and H. Good luck my friend.

Thanks, it feels good not to have to spend all my money on h and all my gas going to pick up everyday. As low of a dose I was on, I had pretty normal bowel movements. Never really got pinned pupils from it or pissing problems like I would with morphine or h. I am talking about buprenorphine. I cannot really speak for the methadone since i was on it 1 day. I did however get a high or kind of good antidepressant feeling from buprenorphine which I enjoyed. It should definetly be looked at for its antidepressant qualities. It also makes me want to sty up late and play video games like h or morphine would.
The only time I am going to use painkillers is for pain, like the methadone situation, it was necessary for that 1 time.

Thanks, it feels good not to have to spend all my money on h and all my gas going to pick up everyday. As low of a dose I was on, I had pretty normal bowel movements. Never really got pinned pupils from it or pissing problems like I would with morphine or h. I am talking about buprenorphine. I cannot really speak for the methadone since i was on it 1 day. I did however get a high or kind of good antidepressant feeling from buprenorphine which I enjoyed. It should definetly be looked at for its antidepressant qualities. It also makes me want to sty up late and play video games like h or morphine would.
The only time I am going to use painkillers is for pain, like the methadone situation, it was necessary for that 1 time.

Good job, were you shooting up, its a bit harder to quit if you shoot cuz your addicted to that fucking rush. And i am taking 8 mg subutex tabs (bupe without the nalaxone). And i dunno i cant see it being prescribed as an anti depressant. Cuz the first times you take you get a half ass high, where most people yak. although I read an article about how opiates could be used for depression, because of the way it affects dopamine. its jsut that depressed people are more likely to abuse and more subjected too get addictions.

Nope, never shot. I never got sick from it but I never took a large dose. I gave a friend abot 1-2mgs and he was not opiate dependant, he ended up nodding all day and had me quite worried. I called hima few hours later and he was fine. But I could tell the stuff is really powerful on non dependant people. So it would have to be low doses for depression. But the stuff is not really that abuseble and I found it to be great for depression and it also has anti anxiety effects.After about the second day you level off and any euphoria stops. every time I dosed for a few hours i did feel good effects like anxiety relief, a little more social, and just a general all around good feeling. Seems to me it could do the job s.s.r.i.s have been trying to do for a long time.

ya, it def helps the dopamine, i dunno how much it affects serotonin. but its def abusable for people with no realy opiate dependance. Actually one guy i give some of mine too nods on em, and he did more H and oxys than me. So it can be abusable. Mine doesnt have narcon in it tho, so maybe thats why.

ya, it def helps the dopamine, i dunno how much it affects serotonin. but its def abusable for people with no realy opiate dependance. Actually one guy i give some of mine too nods on em, and he did more H and oxys than me. So it can be abusable. Mine doesnt have narcon in it tho, so maybe thats why.

The nalaxone does nothing. It doesnt even get absorbed unless IVd and even then the buprenorphine will displace it soon enough , with the short 1 hour half life naloxone has it would be out very fast. With bupes higher affinity it probably wouldnt even make it to the receptor sites.

And I dont mean do the job ssris do in the same way. But bupe could do the same job in a different way than ssris.

The nalaxone does nothing. It doesnt even get absorbed unless IVd and even then the buprenorphine will displace it soon enough , with the short 1 hour half life naloxone has it would be out very fast. With bupes higher affinity it probably wouldnt even make it to the receptor sites.

And I dont mean do the job ssris do in the same way. But bupe could do the same job in a different way than ssris.

ya, it depends on what is causing their depressoin i guess. I for one think theres alot of ways to get over depression with out using all kinds of pills. I was kinda depressed and i tried mushies and it changed my outlook on things and the way i thought eventually fixed my brain chem. Your brain can repair itself and get you over depression without pills.

about the nalaxone, your right it doesnt make much of a difference that you have nalaxone and i dont unless your planning on using other opiates or shooting it up (which isnt worth while, no rush or nothing).

ya, it depends on what is causing their depressoin i guess. I for one think theres alot of ways to get over depression with out using all kinds of pills. I was kinda depressed and i tried mushies and it changed my outlook on things and the way i thought eventually fixed my brain chem. Your brain can repair itself and get you over depression without pills.

about the nalaxone, your right it doesnt make much of a difference that you have nalaxone and i dont unless your planning on using other opiates or shooting it up (which isnt worth while, no rush or nothing).

Dude, I did ketamine for the first time tonight. That shit is crazy! Took care of my depression. I love k. god i feel good.

Edit: I will need to stay away from that shit. Too fun.