When I take these kinds of drugs I can become aware of pretty amazing things, but I do not feel like I am using moar then 10% of their potential. I think I forget alot of things when I go to sleep, that I am not fully concentrating the whole trip on bettering my self and spirituality and seeing thru the bullshit perceptions we have.

So, how do you personally try to get the most out of hallucenogens?

MUSIC. if you get good entheogens, and jam with someone, and experiment, you will eventually figure things out. music is the best thing to do while tripping. listening to it is great too, but figuring out sounds helps you figure out life.

i saw all these types of artwork and shit i could never understand, people saying weird shit that sounds weird for the sake of weirdness. i played with sounds with a good friend one night, and discovered unspeakable euphorias and secrets about the human body/mind/bodymind. bill hicks said it best,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AXmzcroUmdU

and this is what conclusion i came to on my own, and then found many many things out and life is much clearer to me.

other people to research are:
Alan Watts
Terrence Mckenna
Aldous Huxley
ken wilber.
bill hicks is a little angry and on speed, but he too is a great man.

Carl sagan isn't quite the same as the others, but equally as good. watch cosmos. Listen to indian music that is tuned to 136 hz, the true music scale, in tune with the earth's natural vibrations. www.deoxy.org is a wonderful resource for higher thinking.

Edit: also know that ego loss, scary as it may be, true ego loss is your mind being at one with the world and a glimpse into the way it will be when we transcend from the clutches of the human ego, understand we're an illusion (Hindus called it Maya) and unite and become part of the universe's self understanding process.

Just observe whats happening. Stop all the chatter and thoughts flying through the mind, and bask in the expereince. Learn how to meditate, or quiet the mind, in use with entheogens. Check out what Erowid has on using drugs as entheogens.

Edit - its interesting someone else would include music, I have often thought that 'music', in general, explains reality.

It's fucking Hallucinogens dude. I'm starting to think you're a troll.

Anyway. 10% of your brain's potential is used every day. Multiply that 10% of your brain's potential by the 10% of the information you teach yourself while on "hallucenogens" and you know what you get?

A whopping potential of 1% learned.

That's 99% away from what you have the potential to be. You're shitty.

EDIT: Wow, you guys are actually helping him.

I am somewhere in between the spectrum of spockcarolla and Obbe. I either read literature that I find interesting (encompassing all of the subjects that I'm interested in), enjoyable and mind expanding, practice a small amount of meditation, and play a hell of a lot of music.

Those activities could permanently keep me busy though, not just in the realms of altered consciousness. Those activities are consciousness altering by themselves...when combined with psychedelics...it's godly.

I don't think you use hallucenogens(sic).

Enjoy your made up internet stories.

its not like hallucinogens are hard to get, any asshole with a credit card can get rc's. and i know for a fact he does. To the OP, i like to spend time meditating and thinking about life and what i want to do wit my future. Dont do things like watch tv, because they control what your thinking about. Music is always good tho, music without words is even better in my opinion. If your talking about getting the most fun out of your opiates, concerts are the shit. Shpongle is doing concerts now, i gotta see that.

some good music and a pencil and paper... ive always wanted to buy a voice recorder... and just attempt to put words to what is going through my head, but in alot of ways i know that not alot will be there, most of it goes far beyond spoken words...

It's 20% dude.

Cocksucker.

you're too stupid and autistic to benefit from them, sry

its not like hallucinogens are hard to get, any asshole with a credit card can get rc's. and i know for a fact he does.

Did he try to fuck you?

you're too stupid and autistic to benefit from them, sry

Stumps don't benefit from hallucinogens either.

Did he try to fuck you?



Stumps don't benefit from hallucinogens either.

are you one of those really akward kids that trys to get people to laugh, but ends up sounding retarded everytime he talks. You really gotta learn how to flame and make it funny. You just sound like 12 year old.

http://monkeysfly.net/kaistar/comedy/retard.gif (http://www.vbulletin.com)

are you one of those really akward kids that trys to get people to laugh, but ends up sounding retarded everytime he talks. You really gotta learn how to flame and make it funny. You just sound like 12 year old.

Are you one of those illiterate 420 faggots who thinks they are witty and a BLTC treasure?

EDIT: Nice edit, I can do that too.

...it's godly.

And with that, we discover then meaning of entheogen.

It's 20% dude.

10% multiplied by 10% is 20%?

I MUST'VE MISSED A MEMO! WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED OF THE CHANGES IN MULTIPLYING DECIMALS!?!?

Oh wait. You're just a fucking idiot.

It was a flame poking fun at how incredibly away from himself TheBlackPope is.

Shh. Silly Obbe. Don't tell people that they have the potential of oneness with "god" inside themselves. The government is going to lock you in an "I love me jacket".

And to yoshimipirate, I've never sucked a cock in my life. If I could reach mine on the other hand, I'd probably never leave the house...rendering my girlfriend useless.

So, how do you personally try to get the most out of hallucenogens?

Step 1 : space out your trips to, like, 1/month.

Step 2 : develop an extreme existential crisis of grappling with the universe which occupies every minute of your sober thought with extreme importance and intensity, fully knowing that if you fail in this, you will probably die. Namely, through suicide. Because you're out of options.

Step 3 - very important : only consume megadosages. If you can see clearly enough to hallucinate, you are not grilling hard enough.

...this is the plan that worked for me. Your mileage may vary.

Step 1 : space out your trips to, like, 1/month.

Step 2 : develop an extreme existential crisis of grappling with the universe which occupies every minute of your sober thought with extreme importance and intensity, fully knowing that if you fail in this, you will probably die. Namely, through suicide. Because you're out of options.

Step 3 - very important : only consume megadosages. If you can see clearly enough to hallucinate, you are not grilling hard enough.

...this is the plan that worked for me. Your mileage may vary.

I had an "extreme existential crisis of frappling with the universe which occupies every minute of your sober thought" that actually almost did drive me to suicide. I worked through it, but sometimes I have a bad trip on hallucenogens and this problem comes out again!

Thanks for the advice everyone, do you think its better to be alone, w/ your gf or w/ friends? Does it matter? I would assume alone, but I know it is fun to be w/ your girl or a best friend and you guys can help each other out. I've had some amazing talks on this.

10% multiplied by 10% is 20%?

I MUST'VE MISSED A MEMO! WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED OF THE CHANGES IN MULTIPLYING DECIMALS!?!?

Oh wait. You're just a fucking idiot.

It was a flame poking fun at how incredibly away from himself TheBlackPope is.

Shh. Silly Obbe. Don't tell people that they have the potential of oneness with "god" inside themselves. The government is going to lock you in an "I love me jacket".

And to yoshimipirate, I've never sucked a cock in my life. If I could reach mine on the other hand, I'd probably never leave the house...rendering my girlfriend useless.

I wasn't doing your math fucktard. I was telling you the 20/80 law. 10% is not correct. It is 20% of the brain that is present information and learning, the other 80% is past information. And why do you figure you gain 10% from hallucinogens? Pubmed plz. Wait, you can't, cause you're just being an egotistical bitch. Don't fuck with TheBlackpope or anyone else if you can't even get you shit right.

Um, not to be a dick but, I think they have disproven that 10% or 20% BS. You use most of your brain, most of the time. The parts of your brain that remember stuff is the same parts of your brain that experience things. Oh, and your brain isn't anything like a computer, it's much more complex than that. Your whole brain interacts with itself and the enviroment in an extremly complex way, creating the "mind" as we know it.

No i think it is you use "10%" or "20%" whatever it is, at A TIME. You use 100% of your brain, just not at the same time.

I'm pretty sure your using most of your brain pretty much all the time.

www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s1090374.htm

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percent.asp

http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html

What data were used to come up with the number - 10%? Does this mean that you would be just fine if 90% of your brain was removed? If the average human brain weighs 1,400 grams (about 3 lb) and 90% of it was removed, that would leave 140 grams (about 0.3 lb) of brain tissue. That's about the size of a sheep's brain. It is well known that damage to a relatively small area of the brain, such as that caused by a stroke, may cause devastating disabilities. Certain neurological disorders, such as Parkinson's Disease, also affect only specific areas of the brain. The damage caused by these conditions is far less than damage to 90% of the brain.


The Evidence (or lack of it)
Perhaps when people use the 10% brain statement, they mean that only one out of every ten nerve cells is essential or used at any one time? How would such a measurement be made? Even if neurons are not firing action potentials, they may still be receiving signals from other neurons.

Furthermore, from an evolutionary point of view, it is unlikely that larger brains would have developed if there was not an advantage. Certainly there are several pathways that serve similar functions. For example, there are several central pathways that are used for vision. This concept is called "redundancy" and is found throughout the nervous system. Multiple pathways for the same function may be a type of safety mechanism should one of the pathways fail. Still, functional brain imaging studies show that all parts of the brain function. Even during sleep, the brain is active. The brain is still being "used," it is just in a different active state.

Finally, the saying "Use it or Lose It" seems to apply to the nervous system. During development many new synapses are formed. In fact, some synapses are eliminated later on in development. This period of synaptic development and elimination goes on to "fine tune" the wiring of the nervous system. Many studies have shown that if the input to a particular neural system is eliminated, then neurons in this system will not function properly. This has been shown quite dramatically in the visual system: complete loss of vision will occur if visual information is prevented from stimulating the eyes (and brain) early in development. It seems reasonable to suggest that if 90% of the brain was not used, then many neural pathways would degenerate. However, this does not seem to be the case. On the other hand, the brains of young children are quite adaptable. The function of a damaged brain area in a young brain can be taken over by remaining brain tissue. There are incredible examples of such recovery in young children who have had large portions of their brains removed to control seizures. Such miraculous recovery after extensive brain surgery is very unusual in adults.

So next time you hear someone say that they only use 10% of their brain, you can set them straight. Tell them:

"NOT TRUE; We use 100% of our brains."