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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-04-14, 21:49
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King3x 
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Green Dragon Ratios
I'm about to make some Green Dragon for my spring break after trying it a while ago at some party. All I can say is that it was banging.
So, I plan to buy a full bottle 750ml 190 proof everclear to use. I don't know how much bud to pick up for this though.
So, basically, I have a series of questions that I hope can be answered.
1) What is the ratio between the two substances?
2) How much chronic should I pick up for the entire bottle?
3) I heard that you need to microwave to dry it but that sounds like bullshit. Can anyone explain this?
4) How long would cooking this take? From what I know, you pour the alcohol into a container with the bud in it too and you boil that container in something even bigger with water at about 160ºF for about half hour.
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#2
 2008-04-14, 21:54
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DiamondX 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
All the info you will every need on the subject:
http://www.makeagreendragon.com/ (http://www.google.com/)
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#3
 2008-04-14, 22:00
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
The bottle I made a few months back was fucking KILLER, and here's a detailed method of how it was made.
Me and some friends killed some of the everclear, to make room for the plant material.
To start off, we used an ounce of weed.
Using a spacecase grinder, I ground all the weed as finely as I could, and poured it into the bottle (the little pour nozzle on the bottle is removable). I also poured the kif I got from the ground herb (which was quite a bit) into the bottle as well.
Over the course of a month, I continued adding a few pinches of green to the bottle, adding in some kif too.
Every day I shook the bottle vigorously three times a day for about a minute each time.
After a month it was ready to go.
Two shots would get you a nice alcohol buzz, and get you high as fuck.
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#4
 2008-04-14, 22:15
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ingutted 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
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Originally Posted by Darkus
The bottle I made a few months back was fucking KILLER, and here's a detailed method of how it was made.
Me and some friends killed some of the everclear, to make room for the plant material.
To start off, we used an ounce of weed.
Using a spacecase grinder, I ground all the weed as finely as I could, and poured it into the bottle (the little pour nozzle on the bottle is removable). I also poured the kif I got from the ground herb (which was quite a bit) into the bottle as well.
Over the course of a month, I continued adding a few pinches of green to the bottle, adding in some kif too.
Every day I shook the bottle vigorously three times a day for about a minute each time.
After a month it was ready to go.
Two shots would get you a nice alcohol buzz, and get you high as fuck.
Pictures related
http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n5426860377050575973rm3.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n5426860377050603779hv5.jpg
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man that is a beautiful green in the second pic.
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#5
 2008-04-14, 22:16
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King3x 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
Well, I've seen Eric the Ruler's so far and I've seen the Green Dragon Soda thing, and the ratios are significantly different.
For Eric The Ruler's, he put 2.5 OZ (which is about 70 grams) for one bottle of ever clear. In the soda page I saw (http://www.greendragonsoda.com/), it was half a gram for every fluid ounce, which is about 30 mL. After all the conversions and stuff, it comes out to about 12.5 grams, which I see a huge problem with, seeing as that isn't even half an ounce.
So once again I ask real live people, what should I be putting in for a full bottle of green dragon?
NOTE: I'm poor so be conservative.
EDIT: How about the microwave issue? Is it really smart to microwave it for like 2 minutes?
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#6
 2008-04-14, 22:25
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
man that is a beautiful green in the second pic.
Isn't it, though? :D
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#7
 2008-04-14, 23:22
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King3x 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
I'm trying to get fucked up off one or two shots.
How much weed should I be putting in?
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#8
 2008-04-15, 02:29
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
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Originally Posted by King3x
I'm trying to get fucked up off one or two shots.
How much weed should I be putting in?
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Dude...I made that post for a reason.
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#9
 2008-04-15, 03:24
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Dorian 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
14 grams, or more if wanted.
750ml converts to 25 fl. oz. meaning 14 grams would have a grams per shot measure or .56 grams.
each shot will be half a gram, try and go smoke half a gram and see how you feel and then ask if only half a gram per shot will be enough.
happy makings!
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#10
 2008-04-15, 04:49
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activepsycho 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
Use at least an ounce. Do not, for the sake of you and your microwave, attempt to microwave everclear. The more weed you use the less everclear you have to tolerate to get high. I mean, ideally, you could use an ounce of pot in x amount of everclear, strain the pot, and reduce the volume to 1 fluid ounce by evapping at low temps.
If you could have 28 grams of pot worth of THC in 30 mL of 95% EtOH, you would need about 10 drops under the tongue to get BAKED!
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#11
 2008-04-15, 04:53
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DiamondX 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
each shot will be half a gram, try and go smoke half a gram and see how you feel and then ask if only half a gram per shot will be enough.
And keep in mind you wont have an open flame on the THC to degrade it, so it will be more than .5g smoked.
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#12
 2008-04-15, 05:12
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Dorian 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
defiantly will get the job done.
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#13
 2008-04-15, 19:41
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King3x 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
Hmmm - how about if it is a quarter boiled into half a bottle?
That's pretty much what I can afford around here. Shit is expensive here in Jersey.
Thanks for the input first Darkus, I didn't mean to ignore you. Just waiting for more replies.
How about the microwaving issue? I plan to try this first with a gram for two shots (so that's about .5 per 30mL) to see if it works and not waste my bud.
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#14
 2008-04-16, 01:27
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Dorian 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
alcohol vapors explode...putting alcohol into a microwave and turning it on is like lighting a molotov and throwing at your kitchen wall...please don't.
no one wants a accidental firebomb.
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#15
 2008-04-16, 01:39
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King3x 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
I meant to decarboxylate the bud in the microwave. I don't think I want to use the oven because it'll probably reek up the house.
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#16
 2008-04-16, 01:45
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Doctor_Ew420 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
Nah man... just do it up... no heat, just TIME, make sure you add around .5g per shot and then leave it for a LONG time, listen to everything darkus said, follow his directions to a tee.
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#17
 2008-04-16, 01:46
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Dorian 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
just double boil and do it all at once. worst comes to worse, you dont like it and then sell it to a friend.
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#18
 2008-04-16, 01:50
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King3x 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
Thing is, I'm not alone in this expidenture.
Buying the bud with some friends, and they're not willing to throw the whole thing in just yet. I was thinking of throwing in a gram to see how things work out.
If I like it, I'll probably throw in another quarter bag. My main problem though is how long to microwave that for. I think THC starts to decompose at ~400ºF
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#19
 2008-04-16, 02:22
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42Oinchrims 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
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Originally Posted by King3x
Thing is, I'm not alone in this expidenture.
Buying the bud with some friends, and they're not willing to throw the whole thing in just yet. I was thinking of throwing in a gram to see how things work out.
If I like it, I'll probably throw in another quarter bag. My main problem though is how long to microwave that for. I think THC starts to decompose at ~400ºF
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please do not put alcohol in a microwave.
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#20
 2008-04-16, 04:10
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jamaica0535 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
please do not put alcohol in a microwave.
blow the fucking door off if theres any considerable amount in there... alcohol evaporates off until the concentrations are high enough and then it goes bang...
hot water bath if your going to heat it at all...
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#21
 2008-04-16, 14:58
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Doctor_Ew420 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
Why in the fuck would anyone want to heat their bottle of alcohol.
Maybe I am missing something here, but I am sure green dragon requires NO heat.
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#22
 2008-04-16, 15:05
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silverballs 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
Way to make a big deal out of nothing, fags. :)
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#23
 2008-04-16, 20:30
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King3x 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
Yeah, why's everyone freaking out?
I mean to microwave the bud to decarboxylize it. THC isn't active because there's a COOH attached to it. Heat combusts this and releases CO2 and H2O which is why we smoke it.
As for heating the alcohol, heat makes solvents more soluble, meaning that the rate the THC dissolves is much faster. I can accomplish what you do in a month in a mere half hour, and probably more efficient as well.
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#24
 2008-04-16, 21:36
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42Oinchrims 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
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Originally Posted by King3x
Yeah, why's everyone freaking out?
I mean to microwave the bud to decarboxylize it. THC isn't active because there's a COOH attached to it. Heat combusts this and releases CO2 and H2O which is why we smoke it.
As for heating the alcohol, heat makes solvents more soluble, meaning that the rate the THC dissolves is much faster. I can accomplish what you do in a month in a mere half hour, and probably more efficient as well.
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have fun blowing up your microwave
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#25
 2008-04-17, 17:34
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King3x 
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Re: Green Dragon Ratios
have fun blowing up your microwave
I don't know if you're purposely being stupid, but you are.
THE ALCOHOL WILL NOT BE TOUCHING THE FUCKING MICROWAVE.
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