Jeeze... it's been a shitload of a longtime since I've been on Totse... about 5 years. I know nobody here anymore :( But lets get acquainted shall we?

The name is Dan, and I definitely enjoy drug talk. I plan on becoming a more regular poster again after my long hiatus.

Tonight I plan on enjoying a nice combination of DXM and Diphenhydramine... a pair that sometimes takes my visualization beyond that of an acid trip.

Has anyone else had as awesome results as me with this combination? I plan to be frequenting the forums tonight while under the influence, so feel free to ask questions.

Anyways, its good to be back my fellow totsians!

Seeing as you joined in '04, certainly you weren't active for very long since 2009 is still a long ways away.

Tempted to say "see Official DXM thread," but I'll just welcome ya back. :)

Sounds like the combo you got is going to make your mouth VERY dry.

Haha did i really join in 04? It seems like so much longer ago... with my perception of time being as it is.

Thx for the welcome-back btw

If you stop dexing your perception of time might return to normal.

Welcome back...I guess.

Get some real drugs?

Get some real drugs?

This. :)

welc ome back, but get some real drugs.

I think DXM is a really interesting drug for it's effects and potentiality. It also combines really well with a lot of drugs in smaller doses.

The combination you're using is a bit skadgy I admit, but you can still enjoy it.


You mentioned that it give you wicked ass visuals. What sorts of shit?

You mentioned that it give you wicked ass visuals. What sorts of shit?

Diphenhydramine alone, in the proper dose, gives some sick fucking hallucinations. You will actually feel objects in the visuals, and you have no idea that it is all just a trip until the end. Definitely try it sometime, it is like no other trip.

Diphenhydramine alone, in the proper dose, gives some sick fucking hallucinations. You will actually feel objects in the visuals, and you have no idea that it is all just a trip until the end. Definitely try it sometime, it is like no other trip.

I may at some point. I've used it at lower dosages but not enough to get the notorious indistinguishable hallucinations.

this is when your hiatus started: 2006-10-18, 14:43

almost 20 months ago, not quite five years

Diphenhydramine alone, in the proper dose, gives some sick fucking hallucinations. You will actually feel objects in the visuals, and you have no idea that it is all just a trip until the end. Definitely try it sometime, it is like no other trip.

Oh yeah. Last week I took 350 mg with a few hallucinations here and there, then when I layed down to sleep the crazy shit began. I would start to dream intense, long dreams then wake up, look at the clock and there would be a tarantula clear as day on the nightstand. I'd close my eyes to make it all go away, then sure enough the same thing would happen, except if I was on my back the tarantula would be on the ceiling, BIGGER than before. it was weird.

Oh yeah. Last week I took 350 mg with a few hallucinations here and there, then when I layed down to sleep the crazy shit began. I would start to dream intense, long dreams then wake up, look at the clock and there would be a tarantula clear as day on the nightstand. I'd close my eyes to make it all go away, then sure enough the same thing would happen, except if I was on my back the tarantula would be on the ceiling, BIGGER than before. it was weird.

The only reason I don't use it more is that spiders freak me the fuck out, and I almost always get some kind of hardcore creepy crawly visual during my trip.

dxm is fucking dope but god damn DPH man ysesiouslyyyyyyyyyy

I dont why anyone would do dxm if they could get acid. Like I used to do dxm all the time but now I can get acid. Acid's waaaaay better even if the visuals arent as good in your opinion which I dont agree with acid visuals kick ass peace

dxm is the reverse opposite of lsd

dxm is the reverse opposite of lsd

right that makes sense

dxm is the reverse opposite of lsd

It's good to have you back frequenting again :) I missed you.

You've probly got more to back it then I do, but the only real difference is that dxm is a dissociative.

To buddy who said they wouldn't do dxm when they can get acid: Ever try a little shot of DXM while you're on acid?

dxm is the reverse opposite of lsd

to reverse an opposite means to be the same as acid.


I know what your saying its just dxm is so filth. I feel like sludge atleast with acid i can comprehend thought and have a somewhat spiritual experiance followed by an indepth month of a nice wide open mind. All dxm gave me was the ability to lay around for months on end without having energy or want to leave my room

gl

I was on the edge of trippin off that shit and didnt know what i was in for passed out though after my air conditioner was making the most horrid squeels ive ever heard. besides lsd brain shutdown.

here piggy piggy

my names 2007. welcome back to this forum where intellect is progressively declining by the word. :(

my names 2007. welcome back to this forum where intellect is progressively declining by the word. :(

Word on da streetz is that regs are opening in April.

Here's a combo I've been experimenting with lately: Shroomahuasca.

Basically, you take a MAOI, and you drink/eat that about 20-30 minutes before you take your shrooms. Recently, I have been using about 1-2 grams of syrian rue. It is amazing. It's like DMT, except it lasts upwards of 2x the duration of 4-OH-DMT. Very visual with Open eyes, and near-DMT closed eye visuals. I love it.

I'm trying to reason out the dose for B.Caapi. Anybody have a chart or something that shows comparative MAOI strengths for various substances?

Welcome back.. why the hiatus anyway?

I think you'll find there's alot more retards on here nowadays haha.
Just go look in SG

The one time I did DXM and diphenhydramine, I went psychotic (presumably, from what I was told) and woke up with total amnesia of the event and everything scattered around my room.

Diphenhydramine increases serotonin levels, so it was probably serotonin syndrome.

The first and last time I did this combo I had jelly fish swimming around my head. Unfortunatly, I soon passed out and "trip teleported" up into my bed (an impossible climb). Weirdest feeling. I took a huge amount of DXM and a small amount of diphenhydramine.

Anyway, I would suggest keeping the DXM between the 2nd and 3rd plateaus and taking a larger to medium dose of diphenhydramine (300 mg perhaps). Maybe you won't pass out? Keep us updated.

DXM and DPH are a decent combo, as far as legal, easily obtainable drugs go. I like DXM much more on my own. Mostly for the reason that even 800mg+ doses of DPH just make me retarded, no hallucinations of the visual variety (though I think I kept yelling at shit because I thought I heard things).

my name is dan too and why the fuck would you do DPH

hai2u ntmu wb

Here's a combo I've been experimenting with lately: Shroomahuasca.

Basically, you take a MAOI, and you drink/eat that about 20-30 minutes before you take your shrooms. Recently, I have been using about 1-2 grams of syrian rue. It is amazing. It's like DMT, except it lasts upwards of 2x the duration of 4-OH-DMT. Very visual with Open eyes, and near-DMT closed eye visuals. I love it.

I'm trying to reason out the dose for B.Caapi. Anybody have a chart or something that shows comparative MAOI strengths for various substances?

I'm 90% sure it's

100:10:1 Syrian rue: Caapi: Currant Juice

So you need 10% in mass of rue for your b cappi. I read that on erowid if you want to find it for yourself.

Speaking of which, could you explain how you're managing your diet with that?

I'm 90% sure it's

100:10:1 Syrian rue: Caapi: Currant Juice

So you need 10% in mass of rue for your b cappi. I read that on erowid if you want to find it for yourself.

Speaking of which, could you explain how you're managing your diet with that?

Red and green pepper scrambled Eggs and toast. Maybe a pizza later. And wouldn't it be 10x the mass of rue if it is only 1/10th as effective?

Red and green pepper scrambled Eggs and toast. Maybe a pizza later. And wouldn't it be 10x the mass of rue if it is only 1/10th as effective?

No, you have it backwards. Syrian Rue is 10x as strong as cappi, which is in turn 10x as strong as black currant juice.

Why would you load your body with tyramine? This (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/maois/maois_info2.shtml) is what I was referring to, which you clearly didn't follow. MAOIs are a lot more dangerous than the drug community generally makes them out to be.

EDIT: http://www.erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_info1.shtml

Found it! :) I was off by quite a bit, but clearly rue is far more effective than caapi.

Diphen + DXM is a pretty good combo. I enjoy it and enjoy experimenting with it by mixing up the dosages each time. Just to name a few other ways to add to its strength, is to take it with a very strong energy drink, like spike shooter, or the really enjoyable one ecstasy, opiates, and for me always with weed. This helps to reduce the risk of falling asleep by filling your heart with stimulants, get you into the sedative state very fast from the weed, and enjoy the trip to its fullest potential. I was once working on a diphen combo guide with a few trip reports when I was really researching it and writing the reports down.

Here's a combo I've been experimenting with lately: Shroomahuasca.

Basically, you take a MAOI, and you drink/eat that about 20-30 minutes before you take your shrooms. Recently, I have been using about 1-2 grams of syrian rue. It is amazing. It's like DMT, except it lasts upwards of 2x the duration of 4-OH-DMT. Very visual with Open eyes, and near-DMT closed eye visuals. I love it.

I'm trying to reason out the dose for B.Caapi. Anybody have a chart or something that shows comparative MAOI strengths for various substances?

Thats good shit right there, did you know you can buy pure harmaline 5X extract on shamansgarden.com

Oh, and for the people that are into mixing DXM and diph, I have found that taking half the dose you took of DXM for the diph works well. Like 300mg DXM, 150mg Diph. I wouldn't go over 500mg of DXM though.

diph will make you trip balls but I and my friend have both tried it several times and do not like it. Most people I've talked with don't like it but your free to try it. DXM kicks ass though.

your free to try it

Thanks for your permission.

No, you have it backwards. Syrian Rue is 10x as strong as cappi, which is in turn 10x as strong as black currant juice.

Why would you load your body with tyramine? This (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/maois/maois_info2.shtml) is what I was referring to, which you clearly didn't follow. MAOIs are a lot more dangerous than the drug community generally makes them out to be.

EDIT: http://www.erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_info1.shtml

Found it! :) I was off by quite a bit, but clearly rue is far more effective than caapi.

All ingredients are fresh, so they are fine to use in rationed amounts. And
.001x20 = .02 = 2% /Caapi
.02x1= .02 = 2% /Rue
You need 20 times the amount of Rue if you want the same effects using Caapi. What you are saying is that I only need 0.1g of Caapi to equate to the power of 2 grams of Rue? That's not how it works. I've done this before and it worked flawlessly.

All ingredients are fresh, so they are fine to use in rationed amounts. And
.001x20 = .02 = 2% /Caapi
.02x1= .02 = 2% /Rue
You need 20 times the amount of Rue if you want the same effects using Caapi. What you are saying is that I only need 0.1g of Caapi to equate to the power of 2 grams of Rue? That's not how it works. I've done this before and it worked flawlessly.

If it whatever combination you took works for you, then more power to you; MAOIs are not an exact science, but no, what I was saying is that rue is 20x as strong as caapi according to that article. The difference is probably that rue doesn't last nearly as long (and the MAOI "high" in itself is pleasurable enough that you'd want to enjoy it for a while).


Dosage
The dosage ratios of the original plant material smoked for subjectively reaching the same level of high is roughly estimated as follows:

Plant Dosage Ratio
Syrian Rue 1
Banisteriopsis caapi 12
Passion flower 80

This means that for every 1 gram of rue taken, somebody else took 12g of caapi. It's a bit confusing but if you read the whole article you'll figure it out (it's pretty interesting in itself anyway).

So go ahead and enjoy your caapi if they work for you, but I'd invest in other MAOIs at least for research purposes.

If it whatever combination you took works for you, then more power to you; MAOIs are not an exact science, but no, what I was saying is that rue is 20x as strong as caapi according to that article. The difference is probably that rue doesn't last nearly as long (and the MAOI "high" in itself is pleasurable enough that you'd want to enjoy it for a while).
I took 18g of Caapi and I got effects. Are you implying that that amount is unusual? It's not. And They last for an equal amount of time. Apples and Apples dude. In ideal conditions, a capsule containing 20mg of Harmaline extracted from Rue is always going to last the same as a different capsule containing 20mg of Harmaline extracted from Caapi.

This means that for every 1 gram of rue taken, somebody else took 12g of caapi. It's a bit confusing but if you read the whole article you'll figure it out (it's pretty interesting in itself anyway).

No, you originally said that you needed:
10% in mass of rue for your b. cappi.
that is only .2g of B. Caapi, which we all know is incorrect and an ineffective dose.
And you are quoting the dosage for smoked material. Stop taking things out of context.

I took 18g of Caapi and I got effects. Are you implying that that amount is unusual? It's not. And They last for an equal amount of time. Apples and Apples dude. In ideal conditions, a capsule containing 20mg of Harmaline extracted from Rue is always going to last the same as a different capsule containing 20mg of Harmaline extracted from Caapi.
Unless you have an extravagant lab setup you won't be able to simply extract the harmaline, you'll also get harmine, tetrahydroharmine, and several other MAOIs; you won't get the exact same chemicals from the same plants because they are different fucking plants. Rue has far more harmaline than caapi, but the caapi have other fun alkaloids in them that you wouldn't get in rue (or at least not nearly as much). It's not apples to apples, it's different qualities and makeups of chemicals. Speaking of which, how did you extract your alkaloids?


No, you originally said that you needed:

that is only .2g of B. Caapi, which we all know is incorrect and an ineffective dose.
And you are quoting the dosage for smoked material. Stop taking things out of context.

.2 g?! I never claimed to know the correct dosage (mostly because it's subjective); all I said is that caapi is 10% as effective as rue; meaning that you would need "10% [by weight] of rue for your [x grams of] b caapi". You misinterpreted my quote.

Look man, you wanted a chart comparing MAOI strength; I found it for you and now you're telling me that I'm taking shit out of context? The initial 10% was a vague memory from that article earlier, and yes I was wrong about it but I fixed it as soon as I could. I don't claim to know what dosages are correct, all I know is the strength of the various extracts in comparison to each other, and I make no distinction between smoking and ingesting the MAOI because I have yet to do research in that. It doesn't matter if I took the dose out of context because they were only dose ratios, not specific dosages in grams.

Pooter, this is relevant to your interests:

But as long as you're not on any of that toxic pharmaceutical crap [talks about SSRIs and general serotonin drugs], harmaloids are physically safe in normal dosages. Even the dietary restrictions so often spoken of (avoiding tyramine, etc.) seem unnecessary, those restrictions apply more to pharmaceutical MAOIs which destroy the enzyme, rather than just preoccupying it temporarily like the harmaloids do.


http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=7

So no need to fuck around with your diet apparently; I'd do more research but it's past mah bedtime.