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 #1 
Old 2008-04-13, 18:23
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Default Hope for America?

Which leader do you agree with the most?

http://www.ontheissues.org/Drugs.htm#John_McCain

I'd say Ralph Nader.
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Old 2008-04-13, 18:41
Spunn Spunn is offline
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I think there is some hope.

Ron Paul and Ralph Nader obviously top the list, I think they're just being honest though.

Obama really isn't that bad I don't think. The guy admits he used to be a stoner and he has that "decriminalize but don't legalize" stance going which I think he's doing to make himself more agreeable.

Probably voting obama.
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Old 2008-04-13, 18:57
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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if mccaine is put in office say goodbuy to 200 billion dollars fighting a war thats never going to be won... and i dont mean the middle east, but its going to end the same over there except much more costly...
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Old 2008-04-13, 19:08
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I like Obama out of the people who actually have a chance.

Especially how he seems to get how pushers are people who come from a place with almost no hope for success, so it's either a minimum wage job (which can barely sustain someone) or deal.

Decriminalization is a step, not the destination. But Obama seems like he'll take the Anti-Drug War movement in the right direction.
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Old 2008-04-13, 19:45
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Ron Paul was dead on.

Barrack Obama's wife is in the Council on Foreign Relations, which automatically makes me hesitant to vote for him.

FUCK the Clintons.

FUCK Mccain.

I'll be voting for Ron Paul or Ralph Nader. Not that my vote will be counted anyway.
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Old 2008-04-13, 20:01
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^why you live in Florida?
 #7 
Old 2008-04-13, 20:04
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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Kucinich 6 months ago.
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Old 2008-04-13, 21:24
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I like Obama out of the people who actually have a chance.


This.

He is proof to American people that haven't realized that drugs do not equal failure in life.
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Old 2008-04-13, 22:08
Dmt_Tengu Dmt_Tengu is offline
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im pretty sure obama, clinton , and mccain are all in the council of foreign relations.
 #10 
Old 2008-04-13, 22:24
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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obamas my nukka
 #11 
Old 2008-04-16, 02:43
Fear and Loathing Fear and Loathing is offline
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Barack Obama, Ralph Nader and especially Mike Gravel. Buying Marijuana at liquer stores is the top formost priority. That'ed be sick.
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Old 2008-04-16, 02:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fear and Loathing
Barack Obama, Ralph Nader and especially Mike Gravel. Buying Marijuana at liquer stores is the top formost priority. That'ed be sick.


QFMFTMad
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Old 2008-04-16, 04:22
Blow5hitUp Blow5hitUp is offline
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I would love to see the drug war ended, but I really don't agree with most of what paul says

I'll be voting for obama, mostly cause I hate clinton... and the republican party wants a wall
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Old 2008-04-16, 04:31
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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Kucinich 6 months ago.

Fucking this.

Even ignoring his stance on drugs, he was my candidate.
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Old 2008-04-16, 16:51
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Fucking this.

Even ignoring his stance on drugs, he was my candidate.

What were his strong-points?
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Old 2008-04-16, 23:29
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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What were his strong-points?From SG:I don't support Kucinich simply for his views on drug law reform (which encompasses much more than simple "marijuana decriminalization"), though that is a giant issue for me. Reforming our drug laws is not just a single issue, by the way. It would have enormous effects on all aspects of life, from funding desperately needed social services to helping fix our crippled justice system.

I also support Kucinich because he supports women's rights, gay rights, minority rights, immigrant rights, universal health care, stricter regulation of corporations, net neutrality, ending the Iraqi occupation, an end to mandatory minimums, ending capital punishment, encourages funding for rehabilitative services instead of incarceration, encourages increasing the availability and scope of programs and services to help people when they come out of prison, ending the NCLB mess, cutting military spending, protecting the environment, funding more research into alternative energy, raising the minimum wage....

Basically, I support Kucinich on almost everything that comes out of his mouth.

Plus, his wife is hot.
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Old 2008-04-17, 01:43
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Fucking this.

Even ignoring his stance on drugs, he was my candidate.
Dennis Kucinich for the FUCKING WIN.
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Old 2008-04-17, 05:16
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In the mind
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Ron paul FTW
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Old 2008-04-17, 12:46
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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Ron paul FTW

Yea, if winning consists of being an old retarded racist pig.

From SG:

The only problem I have with him is his stance on gun control. But I have that same problem with basically every Democrat.
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Old 2008-04-17, 15:37
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In the mind
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Yea, if winning consists of being an old retarded racist pig.


Why do you say that?
 #21 
Old 2008-04-17, 15:42
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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Why do you say that?

How can you support Ron Paul and not know about the ridiculously absurd newsletters that were published with his name on them?
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Old 2008-04-17, 16:29
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Yea, if winning consists of being an old retarded racist pig.


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Tonito44/ThatsRacist.gif

P.S. consciouscowboy? What kind of user-name is that? Is that opposed to unconsciouiscowboy?
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Old 2008-04-17, 17:16
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In the mind
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How can you support Ron Paul and not know about the ridiculously absurd newsletters that were published with his name on them?

What do you have against white people? I think you're the racist. Also, give me back my pants you thief.
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Old 2008-04-17, 18:57
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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What do you have against white people? I think you're the racist. Also, give me back my pants you thief.

Whoa, somebody is getting defensive of their ignorance.
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Old 2008-04-17, 21:48
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Basement
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Whoa, somebody is getting defensive of their ignorance.

Refer to edit
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Old 2008-04-17, 22:14
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In the mind
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Whoa, somebody is getting defensive of their ignorance.


WHITE MAN KEEPING YOU DOWN NIGGER?
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Old 2008-04-17, 22:22
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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WHITE MAN KEEPING YOU DOWN NIGGER?

Your constant use of caps lock is childish and unnecessary.
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Old 2008-04-17, 22:47
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Your constant use of caps lock is childish and unnecessary.

O RLY?
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Old 2008-04-17, 22:48
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In the mind
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Your constant use of caps lock is childish and unnecessary.

Your face is unneccessary towards my eyes.
 #30 
Old 2008-04-17, 23:33
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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Why do you say that?
On Martin Luther King, Jr:
pro-Communist philanderer
world-class philanderer who beat up his paramours
And on the recognition of MLK Day:
What an infamy Ronald Reagan approved it...We can think him for our annual Hate Whitey Day
On the 1992 LA Riots:
order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began. The "poor" lined up at the post office (since there were no deliveries) -- and then complained about the slow service.
On African Americans in general:
The criminals who terrorize our cities -- in riots and on every non-riot day -- are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to 'fight the power,' to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible
the urban youth who play unsuspecting whites like pianos
I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming.
If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be
Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal
opinion polls consistently show only about 5% of blacks of sensible political opinions
Racial violence will fill our street [in the 90's because] mostly black welfare recipients will feel justified in stealing from mostly white haves.
blacks poured into the streets of Chicago in celebration. How to celebrate? How else? They broke the windows of stores to loot.
Blacks have “civil rights,” preferences, set-asides for government contracts, gerrymandered voting districts, black bureaucracies, black mayors, black curricula in schools, black beauty contests, black tv shows, black tv anchors, black scholarships and colleges, hate crime laws, and public humiliation for anyone who dares question the black agenda.
our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists — and they can be identified by the color of their skinThe black leadership indoctrinates its followers with phony history and phony theory to bolster its claims of victimology

But yeah, he's probably not a racist, near-senile, tin-foil hat wearing sack of ignorance Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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Old 2008-04-18, 00:18
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In the mind
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Those sound like facts to me.
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Old 2008-04-18, 00:51
consciouscowboy consciouscowboy is offline
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On Martin Luther King, Jr:


And on the recognition of MLK Day:

On the 1992 LA Riots:

On African Americans in general:











But yeah, he's probably not a racist, near-senile, tin-foil hat wearing sack of ignorance Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

Thank you, sir.
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Old 2008-04-18, 01:47
spartan_420 spartan_420 is offline
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Wowee, I was originally rooting for Grampy Paul for this one, but the whole 'education' thing really makes me want Obama to win.

I'm honestly surprised that nobody has tried to assassinate Hillary / Mccain yet; we all know the only ambitious ones are the true Democrats (yeah, I'm Libertarian, but I stand by my point), and Hillary and Mccain are going to fucking wreck this country if either of them get elected.

Oh, and can you believe this? My friend's mom voted for Hillary just because she's a woman; what a fucking bitch.... On the other hand, his dad and other family members all voted for Obama, so that's cool, I guess.

Just for the record, I'm Canadian (not to mention underage >_>), so I have an excuse for not voting. :p
 
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