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 #1 
Old 2008-04-12, 03:50
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Default Hallucenogens are starting to fuck w/ me...

Well, for the past 3 months my new drugs of choice have been hallucenogens. I took alot of 2ce, some LSD and ketamine.

Those drugs made me think that life was SO beautiful.. but then other times I would think that life is so pointless, fucked up and the only realistic option was suicide.

I'm not shure if those negative times are just simply bad trips or what.

Today I took 10 HWBR seeds and was thinking the same things. I had disturbing thoughts, such as that I didn't really love my girlfriend (who I'm crazy about), that life is pointless etc etc.

My main thoughts stem around this:

So in society I am expected to make money, to spend it on what exactly? Drugs? No they just run out and leave me burnt out. Girls? No I do not like sluts. Love/girl of my life? Yes this sounds reasonable, but even that is just so fucking steriotypical..

Everyone's life just seems the same to me, it is pathetic.

I HATE thinking/feeling like this. I love thinking that life is beautiful and it is what you make of it.

Today I just picked up 1000mg of 2c-e, too.

I do NOT want to have 1000mg of 2ce and have to think of these same things all the time. I really wish I ordered 2c i or b, or fuck it back to my roots (meth, opiates and maybe cocaine)..

Am I simply having some bad trips here and there, and this will work out? Or is life simply really this lame?

I don't know what is wrong..
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Old 2008-04-12, 03:55
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whatever happened to your trek to become a GHB junkie?
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Old 2008-04-12, 03:55
Br00klynB0y87 Br00klynB0y87 is offline
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I don’t know any moar than you do.. :)

...but in all seriousness it appears you got some shit going on in your life that you need to settle and it doesn’t sound like the drugs are helping your case.

.peace.
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Old 2008-04-12, 03:55
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Life is only as lame as you make it.

Perhaps you are doing these things all too frequently. You may not necessarily be having bad trips, just bad thought patterns/mindsets during these trips.

Once you start thinking too hard on a subject during a trip, you can spend quite a long time contemplating it without necessarily knowing it.

Money is the root of all evil, but unfortunately it is also what makes the world go round. The secret is finding a reasonable middle ground.
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Old 2008-04-12, 04:02
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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sounds like your dopamines low. Dopamine is one of the main sources for your feeling of wellbeing. For example when you do a fat line of coke and your dopamine goes crazy and you just feel like everything is gunna be ok. For me sometimes ill talk about how famous and rich im gunna be blah blah blah. Then when you come down and your dopamines fucked you feel like nothing is alright and life sucks.
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Old 2008-04-12, 04:03
silverballs silverballs is offline
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Life really is that lame.

The idea is to find some nice little distraction and by the time that's gotten boring, you've forgotten about all that hopelessness and got a fresh outlook on life... atleast until all those thoughts creep back again. :)
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Old 2008-04-12, 04:09
sum42dood sum42dood is offline
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Whenever hallucinogenics get me down i just smoke a few bowls with my closest friends...

That usually restores my faith in humanity
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Old 2008-04-12, 04:09
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Ya, but there has to be some people who actually enjoy life. I do not even know if I do or not.. sometimes I think it is AMAZING, other times I find no point to it.

I'm also one of those people who do excessivley risky things to find rushes to make life moar interesting. At this point I think life is lame, but when I see others who never touch any drugs except pot, have never had unprotected sex etc. I feel like WOW what do these assholes think about life? Must be HORRIBLE for them.
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Old 2008-04-12, 04:12
sum42dood sum42dood is offline
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Its all a matter of prespective
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Old 2008-04-12, 04:13
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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Ya, but there has to be some people who actually enjoy life. I do not even know if I do or not.. sometimes I think it is AMAZING, other times I find no point to it.

I'm also one of those people who do excessivley risky things to find rushes to make life moar interesting. At this point I think life is lame, but when I see others who never touch any drugs except pot, have never had unprotected sex etc. I feel like WOW what do these assholes think about life? Must be HORRIBLE for them.


well your bi polar disorder you said you have in the marinol thread is prolly wats behind that. I feel you tho i dont know how people live without excitement, or how they get excitement from things other than sex, drugs, etc. just realize this is the only life your gunna get just make the most of it.
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Old 2008-04-12, 04:16
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Try laying off all drugs for a week and take some 5-htp.
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Old 2008-04-12, 04:18
Br00klynB0y87 Br00klynB0y87 is offline
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...I do not even know if I do or not.. sometimes I think it is AMAZING, other times I find no point to it.

That’s fuxking normal though… your not suppose to be constantly blissed out … life is all about fluctuating emotions… just go with the flow… you’ve got the substances you enjoy to indulge in from time to time, good, just everything in moderation...

Life really is that lame.

And how do you figure...? How can something so vague be lame ... frankly I find it quite interesting to immerse yourself into all the mysteries and possibilities.

Remember nothing is set in stone, for this reason you've got religions and laws, but the truth of the matter everything is questionable and nothing is factual since truth... what is truth...?

Just enjoy the nature of the universe... beauty and so on.

.peace.
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Old 2008-04-12, 04:20
sum42dood sum42dood is offline
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Maybe more hard drugs isn't the answer...
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Old 2008-04-12, 04:41
silverballs silverballs is offline
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And how do you figure...?

When your constantly thinking about it, it gets lame.

So put it in the back of your mind, find a distraction and stop relating every little thing to how fucking hopeless you feel. :)
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Old 2008-04-12, 05:07
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well your bi polar disorder you said you have in the marinol thread is prolly wats behind that. I feel you tho i dont know how people live without excitement, or how they get excitement from things other than sex, drugs, etc. just realize this is the only life your gunna get just make the most of it.

Ya, I've thought about this, but ...

I was having all these weird ass bi polar thoughts before I started taking 2c-e. The whole claustraphobic life is pointless thoughts (this makes sence to me but is too hard/long to explain right now).

I then started abusing 2c-e (I wasn't respecting it at all, very bad) and THE THOUGHTS WENT AWAY! At least when I was sober, I would sometimes have real bad trips when I was under the influence but ironically when I was sober I NEVER had those thoughts...

Oh, I just rememberd that I am probally still under the influece of the LSA.. never mind then.


That’s fuxking normal though… your not suppose to be constantly blissed out … life is all about fluctuating emotions… just go with the flow… you’ve got the substances you enjoy to indulge in from time to time, good, just everything in moderation...


Good advice, I needed to hear that.
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Old 2008-04-12, 05:11
Br00klynB0y87 Br00klynB0y87 is offline
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Don't mention it.

.peace.
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Old 2008-04-12, 05:12
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I don't think you have psychedelics.

Enjoy your reading about drugs all day online and posting transparently fake stories about them.
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Old 2008-04-12, 05:43
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nature.
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Old 2008-04-12, 06:37
Evil_Tree Evil_Tree is offline
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Slow down with the RCs man, devoiced knows some dudes that fried themselves bad on 2cxs. Hallucinogens seem like they my provide some insight, and maybe they do, but I've never seen anyone who does a ton of them be in a particularity sound or insightful state of mind. And who really knows what these RCs are doing to our brains man...
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Old 2008-04-12, 06:51
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And who really knows what these RCs are doing to our brains man...

I do not see the point in this arguement which I see is used pretty heavily. 2c-x drugs are based off the phenethylamine back bone. Some phenys have been concluded relativley harmless (MDMA, mescaline, phenethylamine) where some have been considered neurtoxic (MA).

Most of society deems that MA is the worst drug. Therefore nothing can be worse then MA, which reduces 2c-x drugs to be less then said MA. There is no way you or anyone else can convinse me 2c-e will make me grow a third eyeball. And yes, I notice the logical fallacy.
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Old 2008-04-12, 10:34
Tamerlane Tamerlane is offline
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Are the hallucinogens fucking with you, or is it you fucking with you...? It really is all a matter of perception. If it sounds cliche and wierd to you to pursue true love and/or happiness in your life, maybe you should reexamine your priorities, your attituted towards life in general?
This may sound cliche to you - it did to me - but you should try to go beyond grooves and conditioning in your conciousness imposed upon you by society. Don't take psychedelics with a goal to be happy, take them to learn. And don't expect to learn something every time, either. In short, it isn't called the psychedelic experience for nothing. For every person, every time they experience it, it really is an EXPERIENCE. It isn't religious dogma or a political ideology, you can't put it into words, its too big for any language we know. Thus, the experience.
Go with the flow. Don't try to get anything out of psychedelics, just take what you see and work with it. Psyche delos, after all, means "soul manifesting". That is your soul, your conciousness, your Self that you are seeing and feeling and thinking about during these trips. When you're sober, take some time to think about that.
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Old 2008-04-12, 10:58
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You need a mission BlackPope. Set yourself a big hard to reach goal and look at all the benefits and great things you will attain by accomplishing your mission. The only bad trips I have thinking about my missions is I start worrying that I'm getting myself into serious trouble by setting such crazy plans for myself but then I rememeber that lifes short and the worst that can happen is I die or spend the rest of my life in jail and since neither of those two are all that bad theres nothing left to be sad about. Only things to be happy about.
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Old 2008-04-12, 21:54
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I don't know what is wrong..

I know what you're going through. I came out of a trip that pretty much exploited life for what it is. I found out that it's full of nothing but boundries...(beyond the point)

Anyways back to the OP, I am not satisfied with life, but I know that if I do run into a big problem, (pregnancy of g/f etc.) that I have a way out and I wouldn't think twice about it.

I haven't taken shrooms since my last trip, so I couldn't tell you if that will change your state of mind. It's up to you to find out, but if you don't need to trip to find out whats going on, it's better you don't.

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Are the hallucinogens fucking with you, or is it you fucking with you...? It really is all a matter of perception. If it sounds cliche and wierd to you to pursue true love and/or happiness in your life, maybe you should reexamine your priorities, your attituted towards life in general?
This may sound cliche to you - it did to me - but you should try to go beyond grooves and conditioning in your conciousness imposed upon you by society. Don't take psychedelics with a goal to be happy, take them to learn. And don't expect to learn something every time, either. In short, it isn't called the psychedelic experience for nothing. For every person, every time they experience it, it really is an EXPERIENCE. It isn't religious dogma or a political ideology, you can't put it into words, its too big for any language we know. Thus, the experience.
Go with the flow. Don't try to get anything out of psychedelics, just take what you see and work with it. Psyche delos, after all, means "soul manifesting". That is your soul, your conciousness, your Self that you are seeing and feeling and thinking about during these trips. When you're sober, take some time to think about that.

I don't see anyone telling you anything that is more helpful than this.
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Old 2008-04-12, 23:04
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Originally Posted by sum42dood
Whenever hallucinogenics get me down i just smoke a few bowls with my closest friends...

That usually restores my faith in humanity

this is what i do...
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Old 2008-04-12, 23:21
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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I haven't taken shrooms since my last trip

Duh, if you took shrooms, it would have been your last trip.
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Old 2008-04-15, 02:53
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Duh, if you took shrooms, it would have been your last trip.

Logic FTW!
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Old 2008-04-15, 03:14
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Learn to fucking spell hallucinogens for god's fucking sake you fucking fuck.

*takes a huge shit on TheBlackPope's chest*

No, but seriously.

Hmm, if you can't handle your mind on drugs maybe you should get off the drugs and learn how to handle your mind.

It's not the hallucinogens, it's your mindset.
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Old 2008-04-15, 04:14
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I don't think you have psychedelics.

Enjoy your reading about drugs all day online and posting transparently fake stories about them.


I thought I was going to be the only one who noticed!
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Old 2008-04-15, 06:50
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You're replacing what I assume were your previous addictions(coke, Meth, & Oxy) with a hallucinogen binge. It's definitely not healthy. Tell me this, if you were to cease all hallucinogen use would you probably go back to those other drugs? I bet you would. You need to take a break, as I'm sure it has been said. If it gets to rock-bottom, go to rehab. You're falling from user to abuser(lol wtf srsly).
 
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