okay so marinol is this new pill that it seems alot of people are taking now in ohio. its basically a synthetic thc for those who dont know

now, although its for treating nausea and cancer/aids relief, i was thinking about attempting to get it for other treatments.

for one, asthma. I usually have one to two asthma attacks a day, taking a daily inhalation disk DOES NOT HELP at all. BUT whenever i smoke up, i dont have an asthma attack for AT LEAST 24 hours. this has a VERY profound meaning to me.

second, psychiatric relief. now, although many say that it worsens schizophrenia and other such mental ailments, THC is again, being my powerhouse, helps this problem for me out yet again. i am usuallly unstable as hell throughout the day, between migraines and hearing my name called from an empty hall constantly, i have a shitpoor grip on reality.
not to mention i am manic depressive, and flip like a coin emotionally. i have had 8 panic attacks in the past 3 weeks

THC DRASTICALLY calms me down, holds my view on reality together, and almost completely removes the sounds i seem to hear. i say almost because mostly it just stops scaring me and i ignore it much easier. not to mention, having control over my emotions, and handle myself is something i have never had. i dont want to take "happy pills" and either go run a gamut straight through the stages of depression until im not anymore, or just always feel great about life, no i WANT emotions, i just have no stability, and with cannabis, i CAN feel what i WANT to feel when im SUPPOSED to.

it is seriously AMAZING and being sober for 5 months straight really has shown me how far it brought me, and quiet honestly i would not believe i would seriously be typing this without it.

anyway, as i was saying, throughout this plethora of success cannabis has brought me, what do you guys think my chances of perscription will be? i mean, im not going to just say a few words and expect them to hand me a pill bottle no, but i WILL write a several page report as to my understanding of the drug, recent research, and other such therapeutic applications of THC, JUST to have that chance of having a doctor perscribe me it because its not like some cheap way to get high legally, no its something i want to take to actually help me, and me not have to get put in the slammer for trying to stay sane.

any thoughts? suggestions?

Not in a million fucking years.

doctors are only aloud to prescribe things for what the fda has approved them for. just cuz thc helps you asthma attacks you wont get precibed marinol. imo its prolly the smoke that helps you anyway. and as much as you talk about emotions all your gunna get is some non narcotic crap. Your not getting no chance no way. plus marinol doesnt have half the benefits smoking bud does anyway, including getting high.

You think you're gonna hand your doctor a paper about your experience with illegal marijuana use (read: 'drug use') and expect to get a legal form of THC for an unrelated, possibly imagined or definitely exaggerated ailment?

Not in a million fucking years.

what if i got with a research center around my area?

and your right...it is probably the smoke, but they have an inhaler version which could possibly have a different effect, but still, at the very least it would help my asthma and more than likely bipolar disorders (very least, anxiety and slight anorexia)

I had Cesemet before.
My friend got a bottle prescribed to him from this really shady doctor. He didn't like them and gave them to me.

The high is different from weed, less obvious body high (Until higher doses or unless you mix it with anything) but more psychedelic in my opinion. Very fun.

Shouldn't help with your asthma, weed does for me but I believe it only works when I smoke it.

Definitely won't help with your schizophrenia and I would say that it fucked with my bipolar disorder pretty heavily for the while that I took it.

You won't get a script buddy. I know my friend did but as I said, shady ass doctor and we live in Canada.

well regular cannabis does...but yea i see your point it is different..

but anxiety and anorexia would definitely atleast clear up right?

and yet another thread beautifully derailed by stupid noob!!!!!!

Well it helped my anxiety on lower doses where I felt moderately fucked up.

I've always had issues eating properly (enough) ever since I was a baby and like weed yes it increased my appetite efficiently enough to warrant using it for that.

However, I'm still warning you your not going to be prescribed it.
You seriously have almost no chance.

well regular cannabis does...but yea i see your point it is different..

but anxiety and anorexia would definitely atleast clear up right?

you wont get a script for anxiety or aneroxia or asthma or bipolar, you will only get a prescription for things the fda approved it for. and thc can go either way anxiety.

*queries getting aids...*

bah

out of options.....

in all seriousness, this is fucking ghey.
fuck the DEA/FDA....assholes wont let me have a job for keeping myself together.

All the posts I've seen of yours bug the hell out of me.

You'd get AIDs to get prescribed weed, Fuck You man. AIDs isn't funny.

I'm fucked up in the head and you don't see me complaining about how I'm not handed everything just because I'm dealing with myself. I'm working hard to find work and stay in school. I'm actually dealing with my problems.

EDIT: Sorry if I sound more mean then I should, I recently had a big scare with AIDs, I've also dealt with mental illness all of my life so I'm sick of people adding to the weight I deal with by acting like people who have it should get shit handed to them.

All the posts I've seen of yours bug the hell out of me.

You'd get AIDs to get prescribed weed, Fuck You man. AIDs isn't funny.

I'm fucked up in the head and you don't see me complaining about how I'm not handed everything just because I'm dealing with myself. I'm working hard to find work and stay in school. I'm actually dealing with my problems.

i was kidding if you hadnt noticed...

and yea...i have a hard time handling everything so i could care less, im pretty much just trying to escape it all ATM. im just kinda sick of it and if theres that chance(which there isnt) i'll try to see if i can take it.

rather be pretty much petty and pathetic than start going back to self destructive action

No one controls your life except you, take responsibility.
I'm still going, wouldn't be if that wasn't the case.

Sorry about jumping on you about the AIDs thing though.

EDIT: Removed what I said for my brother's privacy. Sorry, I'm not trying to make this a who has it worse fight, I'm just trying to get it across to you that others have it shitty to, we all have to deal with it.

aye i get what your trying to say anyway. but im just trying to escape it all any way i can. ive been dealing with it and idk, im just looking for some way to completely rid it away for just a moment is all. i mean, i tihnk im doing a hellava lot better than last year, just blazing up everyday and taking whatever i fucking could and as much as i could to try and remove life from myself....

doctors are only aloud to prescribe things for what the fda has approved them for.

what? never heard of off-label use?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-label_use

ha 420inchrims why do i always give you links

what? never heard of off-label use?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-label_use

ha 420inchrims why do i always give you links

I finally grew the balls to ask my doctor for marcaine, and admitted it would be for off label usage. I don't know if I will get it or not, it usually takes them a couple days to call in my scripts.


I've told her before that I use it, and order it online, so when I asked, (had to leave a message) I said that I am asking for it because it would be cheaper, I am still going to get it, but if you gave it to me, it would be safer, as well as cheaper on me.


Here's hoping.

Already tried to get myself a script for it, that was a no.

I finally grew the balls to ask my doctor for marcaine, and admitted it would be for off label usage. I don't know if I will get it or not, it usually takes them a couple days to call in my scripts.


I've told her before that I use it, and order it online, so when I asked, (had to leave a message) I said that I am asking for it because it would be cheaper, I am still going to get it, but if you gave it to me, it would be safer, as well as cheaper on me.


Here's hoping.

what for your ankle? thats not really off-label.

Marinol is hardly new.

Fuck You man. AIDs isn't funny.

Its been 23.7 years!!!! Aids is funny!!!!

It's off label to inject it into my muscle twice a day every day.

And suicidemouse, you mean lidocaine, or marcaine, or other nerve blocks? What was your reason for needing it? I am fairly sure my doctor will give it to me, she hasn't told me no for ANYTHING yet. I asked her to up my hydrocodone dosage and she did it without even blinking.

yeah yeah it says no iv because of tourniquet failure and systemic absorption.

although, i have no clue what that fuckin means ha

what? never heard of off-label use?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-label_use

ha 420inchrims why do i always give you links

you teach me something new everyday lol ;)

You won't get marinol prescribed unless you're terminally ill.
period.
I've had it though, and It's WAY WAY WAY stronger than smoked weed if you take a high dose (and by high I mean 8 mgs+)
Back when I had it, I once took 20 mg's, was completely fucking stoned for 2 days, and woke up faded on the third day.
It's fun, and has a humongous couch-lock high when a high dose is taken.
I wouldn't call it psychedelic at all.

There is another method for total limb block using a tourniquet to tie off the limb, and then a slow IV drip, and it's actually amazing shit, total and complete block almost immediately, and it STOPS right away when the IV is taken off, and the tourniquet removed.

Pretty sure thats off label too. I know it's only used in extreme situations.

Also systemic exposure will fuck you up. Normally it is injected into a muscle, or skin, or what have you, but NEVER IV (except as noted above) because it can cause all kinds of problems, and they tell you that when you IM, you should register for blood, just to make sure you do NOT IV, but realistically, the amount needed to cause problems through systemic exposure is much higher than a normal IM dose.

It is really only a problem with epidural type infusions, where there is a continuous flow of the drug. If they fuck up, and end up streaming that shit into your bloodstream, well, you go look up the effects, I don't remember right off hand, but I know it's not fun.

I DO know that the initial indications of systemic exposure are dizziness, slight hyperactivity, blurred vision, etc. All sounds fun really, but it most certainly isn't.


Those symptoms can show up from even slight systemic exposure, and though they aren't uncomfortable (I am pretty sure I've experienced it) it isn't pleasurable in the least. At least for low systemic exposure.


Also injecting LARGE amounts IM can result in absorption and resultant systemic exposure, but this absorption is slowed by the addition of epinephrine. It's used to increase duration of action, not so much to avoid systemic exposure, because like I said, LARGE amounts are needed, and I think, THINK that renal impairment increases the risks, by lowering the amount needed to cause problems.

I forget though, it's been awhile since I've read on it, and this is all from memory.

why arent you a mod in bltc?

ive never gotton an answer to that question.
(yes, i use the word gotton)

Sorry SN, I was talking about Marinol/Cesemet.

I guess they have enough mods as it is. I don't even know if I would accept it, on top of being LT mod. Who am I kidding, of course I would.


LT is going to be needing a new mod soon as well, since BongTech101 is hanging up his hat.


I doubt Joepedo would even want it, but he would be my first pick.


Oh, thank you mouse, you had me scared there for a second, I was starting to doubt that I would get it. My doctor is actually out of town, so some fill in will get my message, and hopefully she put something in my chart about my off label usage for him to see.

If the fill in denies me, I will go talk directly with MY doctor.

I wish you the best of luck man.
Sorry for the scare.

Not in a million and one fucking years.

Emphasis added.

while you're there you might as well tell them you want some desoxyn, oxycontin, dilauded.. i dunno just so you get the best out of your trip.

If marijuana works so great for all your symptoms, why are you here asking us about something else? Keep smoking marijuana.

what a fuckin idiot.

Why do all of you fucks who claim to have bipolar disorder think that marijuana will help you w/ it?

First off, faggots, stop lying about having a mental disorder. I do not know why people think it is cool to have bipolar, schiz or any other form of mental illness.

The ONLY way that marijuana could possibly help one w/ bipolar disorder is smoking it to calm oneself down out of a MANIC attack. Even that won't do much, it will calm your body down for about 5 minutes but then your mind will race you back into manic mode.

Marijuana REALLY fucks w/ my bipolar, and everyone else I know that ACTUALLY HAS IT. It makes you trip really hard. Yes, it is "fun" and I still induldge when I can beat the tests, but I do know that it fucks w/ me. Forsure.

I'm actually diagnosed. Just because you have mood swings doesn't make you bipolar, you fucking piece of shit. Until you have a manic episode, and you never will, obviously, you can not call yourself bipolar. The noises you hear are probally just your PTSD from when you were molested when you were younger by your fat step mother. You are not actually hearing them, you are just small minded and convinsing yourself you do.

ive always wanted to be permanently hypomanic....

FUCK YOU

manic depressive and schizophrenic. and marijuana DOES actually calm me down, and gives me control of my emotions. for my schizophrenia, well it just keeps my mind from racing around, not always but it definitely keeps me from constantly thinking somethings going to happen. im not someone who's paranoid when high.

so again

fuck you. go drink your smoothies.


and also update: one of my parents friends on marinol was perscribed for anorexia and mood swings and abdominal pain relief(odd?). maybe there is a chance?

why is it that like 90 percent of totse seems to claim to have some disorder.

either post pics of your meds, or stfu. i will later post my .5 mg lorazepam, and my 25 mg fluvoxamine

Go find my post in the "What's your disorder?"


I make fun of all of them.

doctors prescribe off label all the time...

just a couple of examples:

trazadone for sleep... its fda approved as an antidepressant
seroquel for sleep... its fda approved as an anti schizophrenic

now, if you have a doctor who trusts you, and youve already tried everything else, maybe they would try this with you.

OR you can just find a quack doc and pay straight cash and tell him what you NEED.

Plenty of those types of doctors down here in S. FL.

The ONLY way that marijuana could possibly help one w/ bipolar disorder is smoking it to calm oneself down out of a MANIC attack. Even that won't do much, it will calm your body down for about 5 minutes but then your mind will race you back into manic mode.


While I agree for the most part it also helps me a bit with depression. Everyone is different though and it doesn't always work for me, it's no instant fix and the risk of making it worse seems to outweigh the benefits most of the time.

I also highly doubt everyone, or even most people, on totse who says they are bi-polar actually have it. It's really lame but somehow it's so cool to not function properly in todays society.

EDIT: I'm not sure if you are referring to me TheBlackPope, I really don't feel like fucking having to prove that I'm diagnosed to a bunch of random people and I'm not even going to bother.

Go find my post in the "What's your disorder?"


I make fun of all of them.

yeah pfffft look at these kids with DSM manuals

"Nothing that major.
Depression.
Insomnia (does that count?)
Obsessive and compulsive behavior
Anxiety.
Paranoia.
Minor hallucinations/delusions at times."

"Tourette Syndrome
OCD
ADHD
Depression
Severe mood swings
Various behavioral problems
Possible APD (Auditary processing disorder)"

"Bipolar, SAD, GAD, OCD, ADHD, and probably a hypochondriac"

fuckin sad