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 #1 
Old 2008-04-10, 19:50
Mahatma Gandhi Mahatma Gandhi is offline
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Default I am gonna try LSD for the first time

Any precaution? Bad experiences?
I have always liked the idea of LSD to Cocaine, so please share your experiences.
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Old 2008-04-10, 20:01
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lsd is really nothing like cocaine...

if you have ever done any hallucinogens before you kind of know what to expect, though (good) acid usually lasts longer and is more intense then most other drugs of that kind. i wouldn't really try to be around a ton of people your first time tripping, that really freaked me out the first time i dropped. besides that don't do anything too crazy and just have a good time space cowboy.
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Old 2008-04-10, 20:03
Mahatma Gandhi Mahatma Gandhi is offline
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I believe marijuana and LSD belong to the same category. I have smoked pot a lot many times. Just a little curious about LSD.
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Old 2008-04-10, 20:07
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I believe marijuana and LSD belong to the same category. I have smoked pot a lot many times. Just a little curious about LSD.



What? Fuck no. The only "catagory" those two compounds share is that they are both illegal in the US. That's it, and even THAT is catagorized differently. They aren't even in the same schedule.
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Old 2008-04-10, 20:08
Mahatma Gandhi Mahatma Gandhi is offline
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Throw some more light on them?
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Old 2008-04-10, 20:11
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lolwut?
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Old 2008-04-10, 20:11
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What the fuck is up with people comparing drugs that have nothing to do with one another?

It's like trying to compare a fucking pogo stick to a skateboard.
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Old 2008-04-10, 20:11
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Fuck doing coke on acid, seriously. Why would you want to fiend for something for the whole trip? It'd be like torture.

Go to a park or a nature reserve if you have one nearby. Bring plenty of water and fruit, cigarettes if you smoke them, weed + bowl, and an mp3 player if you have one (try meditation to some psychedelic ambient music), and a blanket to sit or lay down on. I usually always have a "survival kit" backpack with the previously mentioned items in them when I trip.

I would bring my phone for emergencies only, but turn it off or on silent.

Bring a sketch book and some crayons, markers, paint, whatever.

And maybe some sunglasses so if anyone comes by they won't be able to tell how fucked up you are :)

If you play guitar or have a djembe or any other kind of hand drum, bring it.

Anyway, enjoy.
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Old 2008-04-10, 20:13
Blanko Blanko is offline
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oh, acid is kind of different than pot too. i used to think the same thing so the first time i dropped i expected to get "high." but tripping is a lot more intense (visually, perceptually, mentally) then just baking the fuck out. its hard to explain unless you have done it, but either way lsd is a really powerful tool that can show you a lot of things about yourself and the world that you should take advantage of if the opportunity presents itself. i personally have never gotten "the fear" too bad, but freak outs do happen and the only way to prepare against them is too just make sure you have control over you state of mind before you do it. again, you CAN NOT play off acid to anyone so make sure that you and whoever you trip with have a few hours (eight at least) to devote to authority-figure free perceptual exspansion.
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Old 2008-04-10, 20:17
Mahatma Gandhi Mahatma Gandhi is offline
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Errrr kinda scared now :D I thought I'd play "Across the Universe". Or should I stick to alcohol?
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Old 2008-04-10, 20:22
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Errrr kinda scared now :D I thought I'd play "Across the Universe". Or should I stick to alcohol?



Stop trying to fucking mix shit with LSD when you haven't even tried it yet. JESUS. You fucking SHOULD be scared, because with the mindset you have right now, a strong dose of LSD would rip your entire fucking world apart.
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Old 2008-04-10, 21:12
Evil_Tree Evil_Tree is offline
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Yeah, if you're going to mix acid with anything have it be reefer, and even that will alter the trip...
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Old 2008-04-10, 21:45
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Yeah, if you're going to mix acid with anything have it be reefer, and even that will alter the trip...

If it's good acid, you won't even WANT to smoke weed.
 #14 
Old 2008-04-10, 21:55
jamaica0535 jamaica0535 is offline
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don't mix alcohol or benzos unless things get to crazy for the setting... it brings it down...

stop trying to mix shit with it, at most smoke a bowl at the peak if its not too overwhelming yet... or smoke one after you take the hits to kill about some time during the come up...

im not even going to try to tell you what to expect, don't expect anything, no amount of preparation is going to prepare you for what you will think and feel... in the words of the girl who introduced me to acid, "just let the lovin take hold"... write on a sheet of paper "im on acid, things will be normal soon" in case you forget your on a drug altogether, when your feeling insane for no apparent cause and you see the cause written on a sheet of paper in your own handwriting its a bit better than having your friend try to convince you... if you start getting into a place you don't want to be in look at your thumb and index finger and try to conceptualize the distance between them, that can cause your train of thought to jump to something else, it occupies the thoughts and soon the bad parts are replaced with something else... i think this technique was created by shulgin if memory serves... the writing on a sheet of paper thing came from meta...

get an mp3 player, put on some music that you like, try to stay away from the darker stuff... Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is one of my favorites, its hard not to be happy listening to that album in any state of mind... pink floyd provides a good mind fuck... to each there own i guess...

go outside, day or night... its the most beautiful thing you will have ever fucking seen... going for a walk on acid for me generally seems like walking into some beautiful painting but more alive than a painting...

movies and video games aren't that great on acid, ive attempted to play gears of war while tripping pretty hard, and i sucked and quickly lost interest in favor of music from my mp3 player.... movies are hard to understand unless you have watched them to death, but if you must fear and loathing is always interesting.... across the universe might be good if only just for the music. even if you don't understand what the fuck is going on with the plot the music is still there...

on my first trip i couldn't even remember what sanity was, i felt insane but it was a blissfully insanity where it felt good to laugh and be happy, so i laughed till it hurt and then i kept on laughing, to feel that happy you kind of have to go over the edge of sanity and reason, acid did that for me... but i was able to keep that thought of "whatever sanity is, it will be back by the time the sun comes up".

have a nice trip...

edit: this thread pisses me off because it just reminded me of how my acid dealer was recently arrested...
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Old 2008-04-10, 22:02
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They aren't even in the same schedule.

eh? They're both Schedule I.

ohhh you probably meant coke and acid are in different schedules, my bad.
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Old 2008-04-10, 22:23
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What? Fuck no. The only "category" those two compounds share is that they are both illegal in the US. That's it, and even THAT is categorized differently. They aren't even in the same schedule.
Which ones are you talking about? LSD and Cannabis, or LSD and Cocaine?
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Old 2008-04-10, 22:26
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There are few things that mix well with acid.

Those things are:

Marijuana
MDMA
and Nitrous.

Don't watch across the universe, that movie sucked IMO. Sure, it has some 'trippy' parts, but the story is pretty depressing. On enough acid, you will feel the emotion of the movie you're watching.

IF you're going to watch a movie, it should be Yellow Submarine.
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Old 2008-04-10, 22:44
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Which ones are you talking about? LSD and Cannabis, or LSD and Cocaine?

Both?

...
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Old 2008-04-11, 02:44
Mahatma Gandhi Mahatma Gandhi is offline
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Thanks a lot guys. I meant "Across the Universe", the song by the Beatles.
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Old 2008-04-11, 02:56
J-Beth J-Beth is offline
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Heres what to do

-take the lsd in a peacful, enjoyable, content, familiar, comfortable setting or enviroment, what ever that means to you.
- Let LSD reveal its wonder to you.

Happy tripping, you have a great time.
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Old 2008-04-11, 03:04
ingutted ingutted is offline
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unless im mistaken weed and lsd are both schedule one
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Old 2008-04-11, 03:10
Mahatma Gandhi Mahatma Gandhi is offline
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Thanks man.
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Old 2008-04-11, 03:14
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Actually, yeah I am probably wrong about the scheduling, I didn't actually look, I only assumed that since marijuana had legitimate medical usage it was lowered on schedule, but I guess since it's still state to state it hasn't been changed on a federal level.


But marijuana and LSD are nothing alike, in effects, and molecular structure.
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Old 2008-04-11, 03:20
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Thanks a lot guys. I meant "Across the Universe", the song by the Beatles.


Oh. I thought you meant the ghey ass movie by the same name :D

Anyway,

The Beatles - Abbey Road
The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon (it's popular for a reason)
Pink Floyd - Animals
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Grateful Dead - Anything really. Look up their May 8th, 1977 concert though.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd77-05-08.sbd.hicks.4982.sbeok.shnf

Younger Brother - The Last Days of Gravity
Younger Brother - A Flock of Beeps
And anything by Shpongle is good, too.

If you insist on watching a movie, make it Yellow Submarine. Srsly.

Or The Science of Sleep.

And while The Wall is a trippy movie, it can be pretty terrifying on acid. I'd steer clear. Anyway, enjoy.
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Old 2008-04-11, 03:57
kmartcop88 kmartcop88 is offline
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Be secure with who you are, LSD will enlighten you so don't let it scare you. I've found day trips are more enjoyable than night trips because if you decide to go to sleep, you can and also there's less stuff to worry about at night.

Do it with friends, have fun, and trip on a nice sunny day so you can hike, bike, stare at the clouds and hacky sack and shit. Just enjoy it.

Goddam, now I want some doses.
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:07
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Just don't think about anything man. Let yourself drift away, and everything is cool :)

Fuck I love acid. My first trip was absolute fucking bliss.
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:14
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LSD will enlighten you

No it won't.
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:15
kmartcop88 kmartcop88 is offline
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No it won't.
Have you ever tripped?
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:25
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Have you ever tripped?


LOL Have YOU ever tripped?
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:32
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Have you ever tripped?

Yes. Of course I have. I wouldn't say that it didn't enlighten me if I hadn't have experienced LSD many times. I only speak from experience.
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:38
kmartcop88 kmartcop88 is offline
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Yeah, I understand that, every time I trip its a pretty powerful thing, I take something new away from it every time and implement it into my life. Maybe enlightening wasn't the right word, but you get the drift.
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:43
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It's sad that you haven't dived deep enough into yourself to realize that the LSD isn't giving you any realizations. Your brain is simply functioning in a much different fashion and, due to the heavily altered state of consciousness, you're making many new neural connections, falsely leading you to believe that the LSD is giving you the secrets to life.

You're figuring out the secrets to life.

LSD is far from enlightenment, especially when you label it enlightening.
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:47
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The first trip is usually a superficial experience, it's like going on a sightseeing tour where your guide hits you over the head, steals your possession's and leaves you to fend for yourself in the middle of the amazon.

Maybe on your next one you'll actually be able to use the experience. :)
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:48
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The first trip is usually a superficial experience, it's like going on a sightseeing tour where your guide hits you over the head, steals your possession's and leaves you to fend for yourself in the middle of the amazon.

Maybe on your next one you'll actually be able to use the experience. :)

That's an excellent metaphor.
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:50
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On an unrelated note...

PUCK. Whats up

Rothbury, 10k Lakes, All Good...

July is going to be a helluva month. Any plans?
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:52
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Damn you guys! Oh well my lsd should be here within a week so I will be able to share in the fun.
 #37 
Old 2008-04-11, 04:53
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It's sad that you haven't dived deep enough into yourself to realize that the LSD isn't giving you any realizations. Your brain is simply functioning in a much different fashion and, due to the heavily altered state of consciousness, you're making many new neural connections, falsely leading you to believe that the LSD is giving you the secrets to life.

You're figuring out the secrets to life.

LSD is far from enlightenment, especially when you label it enlightening.


Shit, so I'm just finding out more about myself and my identity?
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:57
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On an unrelated note...

PUCK. Whats up

Rothbury, 10k Lakes, All Good...

July is going to be a helluva month. Any plans?


I've got plans. I hope. I'm hitting up Community College this summer so if I can get off enough time to actually come to those I would love to.

Hit me up on AIM.

Shit, so I'm just finding out more about myself and my identity?

Which I guess you could call "enlightening". But labeling anything "enlightened" automatically makes it the other way around because dharma is a bitch like that. If you want to get into that sort of thing.
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Old 2008-04-11, 04:58
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Shit, so I'm just finding out more about myself and my identity?

It'd be easier for everyone if you answered that yourself. :)
 
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