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 #1 
Old 2008-04-10, 07:18
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Would this be a good place to get my salvia 20X/blue lotus?
Anyone ever used it?
If not any suggestions?
 #2 
Old 2008-04-10, 08:08
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It's overpriced, but they do deliver the goods.
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Old 2008-04-10, 11:21
Inti Inti is offline
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We JUST had a thread about this, GTFO!

God damn it people!
 #4 
Old 2008-04-10, 18:15
Scrilla Scrilla is offline
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The salvia I got from there was amazing. Is amazing.
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Old 2008-04-10, 18:16
Scrilla Scrilla is offline
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Originally Posted by fat_thighs
It's overpriced, but they do deliver the goods.


Is there any where else that is just as good'?
 #6 
Old 2008-04-10, 18:45
Doctor_Ew420 Doctor_Ew420 is offline
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I am doing promotion for BBB.

And to be fully honest, I have never tried their lotus extracts.

I have tried their salvia extracts though, and they were very well priced ( I don't know what the on guy was talking) and plenty strong.

Order through this link!

http://www.bouncingb.com/cgi-bin/click.cgi?id=DoctorEw
 #7 
Old 2008-04-10, 20:53
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hey, is it legal to ship amanitas in the US?
 #8 
Old 2008-04-10, 21:00
Death Snuggle Death Snuggle is offline
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Try alienthings.com. Cheap and good products.
 #9 
Old 2008-04-10, 21:02
Doctor_Ew420 Doctor_Ew420 is offline
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Originally Posted by w_s_t
hey, is it legal to ship amanitas in the US?


Yes. They are completely legal so long as they aren't sold for consumption.
 #10 
Old 2008-04-10, 21:06
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mah compound
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hey, is it legal to ship amanitas in the US?I am pretty sure it is fine.
 #11 
Old 2008-04-10, 21:06
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Brooklyn Park MN
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Large smiles! Haha. Time to read up on those. All I know about them is that they are dissociatives.
 #12 
Old 2008-04-10, 21:10
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mah compound
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Originally Posted by w_s_t
Large smiles! Haha. Time to read up on those. All I know about them is that they are dissociatives.

I have no desire to try it really.
 #13 
Old 2008-04-10, 21:14
Death Snuggle Death Snuggle is offline
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Originally Posted by w_s_t
Large smiles! Haha. Time to read up on those. All I know about them is that they are dissociatives.


Erowid has them classified as a deleriant/psychedelic... From my experience if it's classified as a deleriant, it's going to be one hell of a time and probably not too enjoyable.
 #14 
Old 2008-04-10, 23:46
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whats the diffrence between standardized and not standardized?
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Old 2008-04-11, 01:24
Ljudska Ljudska is offline
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whats the diffrence between standardized and not standardized?


standardized is taking a measured amount of salvinorin and infusing it onto foliage.

non-standardized is evaporating the solvent used in the extraction directly onto the foliage without measuring. for example, extracting the salvinorin from 4g of foliage and infusing it onto 1g of foliage would make ~1g of 5x extract (because it's the salvinorin from 5 grams of salvia crammed into one gram of the stuff)

non-standardized is fine, if you're getting it from a reputable source.
 #16 
Old 2008-04-11, 01:56
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standardized is taking a measured amount of salvinorin and infusing it onto foliage.

non-standardized is evaporating the solvent used in the extraction directly onto the foliage without measuring. for example, extracting the salvinorin from 4g of foliage and infusing it onto 1g of foliage would make ~1g of 5x extract (because it's the salvinorin from 5 grams of salvia crammed into one gram of the stuff)

non-standardized is fine, if you're getting it from a reputable source.


Not true. There is no definition for "standard."

This is what most companies would do:

Non standardized 1g 20x: 190g extracted and evaporated onto 10g to give 10g of 20x

Standardized 1g 20x: 19g extracted onto 10g to give 1g of 20x

The difference is that standardized focuses soley on 1g of material to extract on so that it recieves the full +19g extract. If you evaporate 190g onto 10g it will not be spread out evenly.

When websites say "standardized is measuring an exact amount of salvinorin A onto 1g leaf" why don't they list the exact amount? The leave that out, it's very vauge, BECAUSE THEY DO NOT DO IT!

There was one site that claimed their w/e extract had w/e amount of s.a. on it, but I bought that and it shure as hell wasn't what they said it was.
 #17 
Old 2008-04-11, 04:23
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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I had a fucking thread about this on the front page, yesterdayMad

and dont type out the full website nameMad


also 3 days from order to delivery...and im nowhere close to the place.....i do have a bone to pick about the quality of one of the items....but i think i know why
 #18 
Old 2008-04-11, 06:02
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mah compound
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Originally Posted by Ave2
I had a fucking thread about this on the front page, yesterdayMad

and dont type out the full website nameMad


also 3 days from order to delivery...and im nowhere close to the place.....i do have a bone to pick about the quality of one of the items....but i think i know why


It's not cacti is it? I've heard bad things about their cacti.
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Old 2008-04-11, 06:50
Suicide_Mouse Suicide_Mouse is offline
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I'm not bitching I'm just curious, buuut whatever happened to not posting sources? or does this not count for some reason and if so could someone explain.

Sorry if I'm not catching something simple.
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Old 2008-04-11, 06:58
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mah compound
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Originally Posted by Suicide_Mouse
I'm not bitching I'm just curious, buuut whatever happened to not posting sources? or does this not count for some reason and if so could someone explain.

Sorry if I'm not catching something simple.

Source=someone, or some site, or email address that sells ILLEGAL goods. Illegal in the US is pretty much the standard, since this is a US based website, and if we went by other countries laws, kratom sources would be forbidden here.

This is for an ethnobotanical site selling legal goods, so it is fine.

BUT, what IS frowned upon, is mentioning one of these legal ethno sources, and ALSO talking about using their products in an illegal manner.

i.e.:

"I just bought x amount of san pedro cactus from such and such website, how do I prepare it so as to trip my nutsack off?"



I don't know how strict meta is on that now, but when MGB was around, I remember strict rules about discussing human consumption with regards to his products.
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Old 2008-04-11, 07:41
Suicide_Mouse Suicide_Mouse is offline
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Thanks for clearing that up :)
I thought "source" covered legal entho sites as well. My bad.
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Old 2008-04-13, 16:16
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Source=someone, or some site, or email address that sells ILLEGAL goods. Illegal in the US is pretty much the standard, since this is a US based website, and if we went by other countries laws, kratom sources would be forbidden here.

This is for an ethnobotanical site selling legal goods, so it is fine.

BUT, what IS frowned upon, is mentioning one of these legal ethno sources, and ALSO talking about using their products in an illegal manner.

i.e.:

"I just bought x amount of san pedro cactus from such and such website, how do I prepare it so as to trip my nutsack off?"



I don't know how strict meta is on that now, but when MGB was around, I remember strict rules about discussing human consumption with regards to his products.


Hey Stupid Noob, do you think it would be stupid to advertise an enthogen shop in BLTC? I think it is really really retarded, even if I was to make a disclaimer on each post, I'm still posting in a DRUG FORUM.

Legally, is it dumb?
 #23 
Old 2008-04-13, 16:28
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The only Place Ill order my huasca ingredients from, but Im sure they have good salvia as well
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Old 2008-04-13, 20:58
Ljudska Ljudska is offline
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Not true. There is no definition for "standard."

This is what most companies would do:

Non standardized 1g 20x: 190g extracted and evaporated onto 10g to give 10g of 20x

Standardized 1g 20x: 19g extracted onto 10g to give 1g of 20x

The difference is that standardized focuses soley on 1g of material to extract on so that it recieves the full +19g extract. If you evaporate 190g onto 10g it will not be spread out evenly.

When websites say "standardized is measuring an exact amount of salvinorin A onto 1g leaf" why don't they list the exact amount? The leave that out, it's very vauge, BECAUSE THEY DO NOT DO IT!

There was one site that claimed their w/e extract had w/e amount of s.a. on it, but I bought that and it shure as hell wasn't what they said it was.

wow that's some weak shit.
the only difference between standardized and non-standardized is batch size?
 #25 
Old 2008-04-13, 21:10
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mah compound
Default Re: bouncingbearbotanicals.com

Hey Stupid Noob, do you think it would be stupid to advertise an enthogen shop in BLTC? I think it is really really retarded, even if I was to make a disclaimer on each post, I'm still posting in a DRUG FORUM.

Legally, is it dumb?
Meh, MGB did it.
 #26 
Old 2008-04-13, 21:23
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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Meh, MGB did it.

what happens if i click that link? do you get money? or do i get directed to some child porn site and then arrested..
 #27 
Old 2008-04-13, 22:32
Suicide_Mouse Suicide_Mouse is offline
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It's a store...
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Old 2008-04-13, 22:33
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mah compound
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what happens if i click that link? do you get money? or do i get directed to some child porn site and then arrested..
It's a link to my store. Selling test reagent kits for determining the identity of an unknown compound.


XTC and LSD test kits, as well as filter needles (5 micron) and 3ml syringes.
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Old 2008-04-14, 00:41
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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It's a link to my store. Selling test reagent kits for determining the identity of an unknown compound.


XTC and LSD test kits, as well as filter needles (5 micron) and 3ml syringes.

seriously? you've got an online store? that's pretty sweet man. and it's for an excellent cause.
 #30 
Old 2008-04-14, 02:43
Yorimasa Yorimasa is offline
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I've heard many good things about them from people I know. Never tried them myself
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Old 2008-04-14, 03:05
evilman evilman is offline
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will they send opium poppy seeds to the u.s. cuz i thought those were illegal in the u.s.
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Old 2008-04-14, 03:10
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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no their not, just scoring the plants and getting the opium out of them is.
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Old 2008-04-14, 03:39
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mmmmmmmmmmmm... DMT
 
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