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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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 2008-04-08, 19:49
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Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
After reading over erowid and what people have said on Totse I deemed HBWR/MG/LSA a shitty drug. Friends of friends said they have used it and that they just threw up and had a shitty body buzz w/ barely any visuals. I assume those people just read on the internet and claimed they have tried the drug to be cool (you know those people who claim to have tried every drug (..once or twice).
Well, I've decided that anyone who has aten 6-10 HWBR seeds and didn't trip are a) liars, they didn't even take them or b) small minded, and they react to the drug like society tells them too (in this case, erowid/totse saying you throw up)
I tried to blend some seeds up because they are hard as hell to crush, but after that didn't work I said "Fuck it" and chewed 9 seeds. I was going to do the whole H2O extraction but decided to just do it. My girl ate 6 or 7 seeds.
I went to the beach and lied down for a while. I don't know how long, I would guess an hour or two. I got up and noticed that I had a body buzz. Nothing big, but it was chill. My friend accidently ran into me and he had a joint. I haven't smoked weed for about 2 months or so because I'm on probation and I only took about 2 hits total. This was enough to get me REALLY high, not that bullshit stoned feeling you get from indica weed but that nice ass sativa buzz where you are fully alert and ready to go. The thing was, this definitley wasn't 100% sativa, and it wasn't even that dank of nug.
Right before I smoked weed I noticed that all the colours were getting pretty and I noticed shadows (This is key for me when I know I'm about to trip, when I'm sober I NEVER notice shadows but tripping I do..) but now it was getting intense.
I walked home and kicked it for a bit talking w/ my girl. I was thinking pretty intensely like one would do on LSD or 2cE but not about uncomfortable things..all happy thoughts of how amazing life and the world is. It was also really good to connect to my chick (lots of love).
I walked outside to smoke a cigarette and then I knew I was tripping hard. Can't really explain it.. it is definitley not like LSD but shares similar qualities.. I noticed qualities of LSD, 2c-e and a tad bit of mushrooms (pretty colours popping out) all mixed into one but no real bad qualities.
Very hard to explain the hallucnations.. basically I could notice patterns in everything, nature just felt so connected.. like all the plants/bushes were connected to each other trees sky etc. If that makes sence. They were zig zagging moving at me ..not like breathing though. Not at all like LSD breathing, again, hard to explain but it was BEAUTIFUL.
Lots of trails, though.
I walked inside and my walls started glowing and everything was amzing. Not like LSD, again.
Regardless of the hallucenogen I'm on, I have never been able to look at a TV and see any hallucenogens of what the people are doing on TV. I was watching TV and I could actually see the trails of a persons hand moving accross the TV, the colours and everything.
Really interesting.
My girl did throw up, but it could have been because she ate a bit and smoked a cigarette on top of the HBWR, I did the same thing but I didn't throw up or feel the need to at all.
At the very begining, I believe I might have experienced the slightest HINT of nausea, but I have now discarded it as placebo and small-mindedness.
This is a great drug, regardless of what any faggots who haven't done it but say so to look cool tell you.
Oh, the best part, I literally ate a full meal minutes before taking the 9 seeds. MINUTES! I DID NOT THROW UP! And I tripped hard. Normally if I eat food and then take a drug, it is almost cut in half.
LSA all day.
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#2
 2008-04-08, 20:00
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the half unlit 
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
Yes, I too have noticed the heavenly effects of LSA.... but they could also bring you down to the most deep part of hell. Wait until you try a high dose (12-15 seeds), youll experience time dialation, heart palpitations, EXTREAM confusion. Sounds like you had an amazing trip on the stuff. Just be weary of what the LSD relative can do.
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#3
 2008-04-08, 20:08
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
I've found rivea corymbosa to be the best lsa source, I don't know I've probably been unlucky with hbwr, getting old seeds or something but I never got much from them.
I did have some good trips on MGs though, doing a cold water extraction and using quite an amount of seeds.
Last time I did the rivea was at least a year ago and that was a really nice trip, not very visual(not even close to acid) but very enjoyable with a very loving vibe.
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#4
 2008-04-08, 20:10
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
LSA's can be amazing for some, and terrifying, or horrible for others, I've seen. I've felt both sides personally.
I've had argyreia nervosa several times, i space the hell out of how often also, patterns are so apparent.
I've never gotten nauseous from consuming the seeds whole, even on my first time with them, taking 15 at once. but, from now on I'm doing simple extractions on the seeds, no more consuming whole, for several reasons.
also have some morning glories growing in the window, for win.
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#5
 2008-04-08, 20:18
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
I bought them from herbalfire which is actually BBB.
http://www.herbalfire.com/hawaiian-baby-woodrose-seeds-p-35.html
It says HBWR but the plant name is actually Argyreia Nervosa.
I thought they were two different seeds but this site says they are the same?
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#6
 2008-04-08, 21:20
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
I like LSA too, its like a mild lsd trip but more natural. You forgot to take into account people get different quality seeds, i doubt everyone is lying. Its not a drug poser conspiracy.
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#7
 2008-04-08, 21:55
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
LSA and DXM and all that useless gay crap is only for people who cant get good drugs. i hope you overdose on morning glory seed pesticide you useless piece of nigger waste
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#8
 2008-04-08, 22:08
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
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Originally Posted by struggling artist
LSA and DXM and all that useless gay crap is only for people who cant get good drugs. i hope you overdose on morning glory seed pesticide you useless piece of nigger waste
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You are consistently a fucking moron
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#9
 2008-04-08, 22:10
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
You are consistently a fucking moron
Go do some fucking LSA then, pantywaste
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#10
 2008-04-09, 00:43
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
Go do some fucking LSA then, pantywaste
fucking idiot its panty waist. what you said sounds like what happens when a chick shits herself.
anyway im currently trying to grow some heavenly blue morning glories but im glad to see niggerpope actually liked a legal drug. coincidentally does anyone have any info on increasing alkaloid content?
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#11
 2008-04-09, 00:55
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
fucking idiot its panty waist. what you said sounds like what happens when a chick shits herself.
anyway im currently trying to grow some heavenly blue morning glories but im glad to see niggerpope actually liked a legal drug. coincidentally does anyone have any info on increasing alkaloid content?
Holy shit, you are a goddamned retard. Panty Waist? Analyze what you just said. ITS PANTYWASTE, moron! Think about it, why would you call someone a panty waist? Thats like calling someone "underwear hips."
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#12
 2008-04-09, 01:01
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
I ground up 9.5 grams of Morning Glory Heavenly Blue seeds on Saturday in a coffee grinder. Then I added them to orange juice and put a bunch of lemon juice too.
I shook it constantly for an hour, and let it sit for three more before I ingested it.
The nausea was TERRIBLE but weed cleared it up 100%. The trip was pretty cool except very few visuals, and the next day I was hungover as shit. I was dizzy, headachy, I could not walk straight and I could not talk right. It was straight fucked.
Next time (if there is one) I am definitely filtering that shit.
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#13
 2008-04-09, 01:26
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
I know exactly what you are talking about with "nature connecting" !!
But, my experiences were from mushrooms, but everything seemed so fit in it's place and I wasn't seeing patterns, but the nature around me looked like it had been placed in the ultimate position fitting the trees and the path I was on together.
I have personally only taken HBWR seeds once. I got a bunch from MGB and ate 8 and my friend also ate 8. We went walking around and felt some weird body buzzing, the sky looked incredible and we stared at it for about and hour. It was like everything had a weird glow (it was night) and it was all around enjoyable, though it didn't last long for me :(
I should get a couple dozen more some time and really give it a go. But I don't want to see that dark side.
But hey, if anyone from BLTC is planning to buy HBWR seeds from BBB, do it through my affiliate link! Help a brother out.
http://www.bouncingb.com/cgi-bin/click.cgi?id=DoctorEw
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#14
 2008-04-09, 01:48
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ingutted 
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
Holy shit, you are a goddamned retard. Panty Waist? Analyze what you just said. ITS PANTYWASTE, moron! Think about it, why would you call someone a panty waist? Thats like calling someone "underwear hips."
actually its both according to urbandictionary.com. and panty waist would refer to having a figure like that of a womans.
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#15
 2008-04-09, 02:03
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
Holy shit, you are a goddamned retard. Panty Waist? Analyze what you just said. ITS PANTYWASTE, moron! Think about it, why would you call someone a panty waist? Thats like calling someone "underwear hips."
This comeback won't mean anyones forgettin your stupidity
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#16
 2008-04-09, 02:07
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
Holy shit, you are a goddamned retard. Panty Waist? Analyze what you just said. ITS PANTYWASTE, moron! Think about it, why would you call someone a panty waist? Thats like calling someone "underwear hips."
No wonder you're struggling. (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pantywaste) :p
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#17
 2008-06-26, 22:47
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
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Originally Posted by the half unlit
Yes, I too have noticed the heavenly effects of LSA.... but they could also bring you down to the most deep part of hell. Wait until you try a high dose (12-15 seeds), youll experience time dialation, heart palpitations, EXTREAM confusion. Sounds like you had an amazing trip on the stuff. Just be weary of what the LSD relative can do.
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Time dilation, as well as out of body experiences, interdimensional travel, simultaneous existence in several different timelines at once, and ecstasy can also occur at doses as small as 7 seeds.
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#18
 2008-06-26, 23:18
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
I took 13 seeds and was very disappointed - it felt mildly like an MDMA comeup for about half an hour, then nothing. I'm sure the preparation I did was OK; I smashed up the seeds with the bottom of a shotglass, then soaked/shook the seed pieces in purified water for about half an hour, strained out the seed mush and drank the water (on an empty stomach). Only thing I can think of where I went wrong was that the water was room temp, not chilled.
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#19
 2008-06-27, 00:30
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
first productive thread from you in awhile
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#20
 2008-06-27, 01:35
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
I'm lazy. Can I go to a nursery and pick myself up some of these?
Cheers
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#21
 2008-06-29, 21:39
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Re: Trip Report - HBWR/LSA surprised the hell out of me (very good trip!)
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Originally Posted by happyonehitter
I took 13 seeds and was very disappointed - it felt mildly like an MDMA comeup for about half an hour, then nothing. I'm sure the preparation I did was OK; I smashed up the seeds with the bottom of a shotglass, then soaked/shook the seed pieces in purified water for about half an hour, strained out the seed mush and drank the water (on an empty stomach). Only thing I can think of where I went wrong was that the water was room temp, not chilled.
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There can be several reasons for why you had that experience. One of the most common mistakes people make is that they buy the incorrect strain of HBWR. The strain with the largest amount of LSA is the Hawaiian strain, which is also consequently, the most expensive. There are about 4 or 5 different strains and all of them besides the Hawaiian strain are quite mild so this may be your issue.
Also, LSA is destroyed by heat and light so if they were exposed to a good amount of light of heat, you will not feel the effects you are desiring.
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