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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-04-07, 12:16
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JOKER666 
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Psilocybin extraction
Any of you ever do an extraction on Psilocybin Mushrooms?
If so how and what was the final product like? was it worth it?
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#2
 2008-04-07, 12:37
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Miluardo 
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
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Originally Posted by JOKER666
Any of you ever do an extraction on Psilocybin Mushrooms?
If so how and what was the final product like? was it worth it?
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Je pense que tu peut fair avec des lemons(j'oublie le mot). Ou, si tu ne recoit pas du psilocybin pure, tu va avoir quelque chose que tu peut utiliser tres similair.
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#3
 2008-04-07, 17:40
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
Nisam nijednom, ali pretpostavljam da bi se dosta proizvoda izgubilo.
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#4
 2008-04-09, 18:52
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JOKER666 
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
bump!
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#5
 2008-04-09, 18:53
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
LAb tips
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#6
 2008-04-09, 18:54
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
Google
Fixed.
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#7
 2008-04-09, 19:07
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
I think its basically just like making a green dragon, then you let it evaporate in a pie pan. Just eat the bastards.
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#8
 2008-04-09, 19:19
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
Ich habe keine Ahnung, aber ich wollte einen Beitrag leisten.
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#9
 2008-04-09, 19:58
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
Mushroom tea? I mean, it's not a pure extraction, but it still works.
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#10
 2008-04-09, 21:32
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JOKER666 
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
well I just wanted to extract it into a powder and put into gelcaps to take later whenever I feel I want to alter my state of mind. I know there really isnt much of a point to extracting it but to me I find it convinient. I already googled it and know about methanol/ethanol extractions which is pretty simple. but what I wanted more was as anyone done a extraction and what was the trip like, does it differ greatly from fresh/dried mushrooms?
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#11
 2008-04-09, 21:50
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Splam 
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
Stop it you frenchies, we need the discussion in english so others interested can understand. When I think about it, how would you make a simple extraction so those allergic to mushrooms can take it?
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#12
 2008-04-09, 22:17
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
i took a shroom capsule once. this guy i knew had them for $20 a pop. one of the most intense trips ive ever had.
i hear its the equivalent of eating a quarter ounce of shrooms.
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#13
 2008-04-10, 01:30
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JOKER666 
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
to splam:
if your alergic to mushrooms, i figure that you shouldn't have a problem with the extraction since it would be psilocybin that your ingesting, I dont think you should be affected. but I wouldnt assume anything, id test it first to see if a reaction happens.
to infamous:
a capsule could easily be dosed to either a mild buzz to an intense trip. the extract is very potent so only small amounts are needed to create the same effects of a large dose.
according to erowid.com
Oral Psilocybin Dosages:
Threshold 2 - 4 mg
Light 4 - 8 mg
Common 6 - 20 mg
Strong 20 - 40 mg
Heavy 35 + mg
so has anyone else tried the extract?
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#14
 2008-04-10, 05:40
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
you could extract the psylicin if you wanted to
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#15
 2008-04-10, 06:50
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
Ya, I did it in like 8th grade lol. It looked like this blackish blue waxy thing and tasted shitty just like shrooms. Anyway, it fucked me up pretty good I went to this little christmas party that my parents friends were having and they had a fucking magician and I was just spacing out really obviously the whole time so I told my parents I had insomnia and I was so tired I was seeing spots and shit. Anyway, from that point on I just got to trip out at this christmas party lol. Surprisingly, I could sleep on it, it put me in a pretty good mood, and it was a standard 7-8 hour trip. Good times.
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#16
 2008-04-10, 07:27
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JOKER666 
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
if a methanol extraction was done you would get psilocybin, then using a acetic acid or ethanol you could extract psilocin.
whats the main difference in the 2, I know that psilocybin metabolizes into psilocin. but what if psilocin was taken alone? I just want to know if it would be worth it to get the psilocin out aswell, I know the dosage for pure psilocybin, is psilocin the same?
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#17
 2008-04-10, 10:59
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
Psilocin is psillier.
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#18
 2008-04-10, 11:23
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
Psilocin is psillier.
i lol'd.
Someone should post a procedure, i mean, i could probably find it via GOOGLE, but i haven't slept in days and am not about to go lurking.
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#19
 2008-04-10, 23:39
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
i lol'd.
Someone should post a procedure, i mean, i could probably find it via GOOGLE, but i haven't slept in days and am not about to go lurking.
i saw one on wither the shroomery or erowid, i cant remember which.
I heard that psilocin is a lot cleaner and has less of a body buzz.
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#20
 2008-04-11, 03:09
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JOKER666 
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
erowid has the procedure its pretty simple.
As for psilocin being a much cleaner buzz, does anyone have any light to shed on this. thats pretty intresting. I mean the % of psilocin compared to psiloctbin is much smaller but you can still get quite a good amount. but would dosage be the same?
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#21
 2008-04-11, 09:16
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
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Originally Posted by kmartcop88
Ya, I did it in like 8th grade lol. It looked like this blackish blue waxy thing and tasted shitty just like shrooms. Anyway, it fucked me up pretty good I went to this little christmas party that my parents friends were having and they had a fucking magician and I was just spacing out really obviously the whole time so I told my parents I had insomnia and I was so tired I was seeing spots and shit. Anyway, from that point on I just got to trip out at this christmas party lol. Surprisingly, I could sleep on it, it put me in a pretty good mood, and it was a standard 7-8 hour trip. Good times.
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No you didn't. What you had was failure.
if a methanol extraction was done you would get psilocybin, then using a acetic acid or ethanol you could extract psilocin.
whats the main difference in the 2, I know that psilocybin metabolizes into psilocin. but what if psilocin was taken alone? I just want to know if it would be worth it to get the psilocin out aswell, I know the dosage for pure psilocybin, is psilocin the same?
Ethanol is so much safer than Methanol. And you also most likely lose all of the Psilocin from oxidation and that OH group reacting with water's equilibrium.
erowid has the procedure its pretty simple.
As for psilocin being a much cleaner buzz, does anyone have any light to shed on this. thats pretty intresting. I mean the % of psilocin compared to psiloctbin is much smaller but you can still get quite a good amount. but would dosage be the same?
To everybody above: there is no reason why one would want to have psilocin instead of psilocybin. Psilocybin is a stable form of psilocin. Psilocin is really just an intermediate from Psilocybin to the brain. No matter what, you always get psilocin in the end. As far as most of us are concerned, Psilocin doesn't exist outside the body.
Extracting Psilocin would require enzymes. Psilocybin only requires some everclear; a cool, dark place; and a few weeks. In any sense, extraction definitely pays off. There are few things nicer than IV 4-OH-DMT. :)
Also, I wrote a tutorial some time ago, you might be able to use the search to find it.
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#22
 2008-04-11, 13:45
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JOKER666 
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
^ thanks alot pooter, thats what I call a constructive post. Im not saying that the others who posted on this thread werent serious or of any value, but this is the kind of post I like to see the most. as for eveyone else, thank you for being serious and giving good replies, Id hate to see this place turn into BI but I see it getting closer everyday....
I think Im going to try this extraction as it seems rather rewarding. if anyone else who hasnt tried this yet and does because of this thread please post about how it went and your experience.
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#23
 2008-04-11, 20:02
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
Avoid methanol at all costs, there is usually a cheaper safer alternative.
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#24
 2008-04-12, 04:13
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
To everybody above: there is no reason why one would want to have psilocin instead of psilocybin. Psilocybin is a stable form of psilocin. Psilocin is really just an intermediate from Psilocybin to the brain. No matter what, you always get psilocin in the end. As far as most of us are concerned, Psilocin doesn't exist outside the body.
Extracting Psilocin would require enzymes. Psilocybin only requires some everclear; a cool, dark place; and a few weeks. In any sense, extraction definitely pays off. There are few things nicer than IV 4-OH-DMT. :)
Also, I wrote a tutorial some time ago, you might be able to use the search to find it.
There could very well be a difference between a psilocin and psilocybin trip. Just because psilocybin is metabolised to psilocin doesn't mean it feels exactly the same, the two chemicals could have very different properties crossing the blood brain barrier.
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#25
 2008-04-12, 05:15
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Re: Psilocybin extraction
There could very well be a difference between a psilocin and psilocybin trip. Just because psilocybin is metabolised to psilocin doesn't mean it feels exactly the same, the two chemicals could have very different properties crossing the blood brain barrier.
Acolyte. Do more research.
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