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 #1 
Old 2008-04-07, 09:18
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Default Patch? hm...

So apparently this dude I know, who sends the oxy's down the line to me and what not apparently has some "morphine patches."

Never heard of them I guess. Any rec value? I like morphine pills and what not, but a patch?

Explain to me, or link me, or something man. I forgot what he said he they were going for. Gotta call him tomorrow I guess.
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Old 2008-04-07, 09:23
Wog Wog is offline
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No. Google them.
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Old 2008-04-07, 09:35
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No. Google them.

Fuck you skunk bag...

:)

fentanyl patches apparently. hmm... I'm reading up now joseph. Anyone have experiences? Or hypothetical experiences cause you're all afraid of the feds...
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Old 2008-04-07, 11:57
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Be careful with fent, a little bit too much and that's it for you. Funny this comes up today, I may have access to a 4.5mg patch.

Does anyone know if a 4.5mg with 25mcg per hour patch is a high dose for fent, or is it on the low side?
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Old 2008-04-07, 15:10
weirdlittlepotsmoker weirdlittlepotsmoker is offline
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Originally Posted by Timby
Be careful with fent, a little bit too much and that's it for you. Funny this comes up today, I may have access to a 4.5mg patch.

Does anyone know if a 4.5mg with 25mcg per hour patch is a high dose for fent, or is it on the low side?


Hmmmm. Ive seen 2.5mg do 25mcg per hour, but not 4.5. Either way, your straight. Stick it on your arm, and you'll be good till tommorrow.
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Old 2008-04-07, 22:33
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Umm at 25ug per hour for 4.5mg that patch should last you 180 hours, or 7 and a half days. My god that would be sweet. Assuming the patch is pharmacutical, it should be perfectly safe.
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Old 2008-04-07, 22:39
moonmeister moonmeister is offline
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Is it too flip to ask...would that be enough to become a full patch member of junkies R us?
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Old 2008-04-07, 23:32
Twisted_Ferret Twisted_Ferret is offline
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it should be perfectly safe.

Could be for people who already have a huge tolerance, no?
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Old 2008-04-08, 00:07
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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fentanyl patches apparently. hmm... I'm reading up now joseph. Anyone have experiences? Or hypothetical experiences cause you're all afraid of the feds...What's your experience and tolerance like?

Do you know the brand? Some don't have gel (Mylans), and like to make it harder on you to abuse.

But no one can give you any helpful information as to how to take it or how much if we don't know your past experience.

In general, though, just wearing the patch is a fucking waste, unless you have no aspirations other than laying down. There's no euphoria whatsoever from wearing the patch as directed. There are a few tricks you can use, like putting a heating pad on the patch to increase absorption, but for the most part, wearing it is lame. The next step up is DIY Actiq. Squeeze some gel out and SL that bitch. You can also eat it or snort it (if you have the gels), but I've never gone those routes, and don't know the effectiveness offhand. I think Meta has experience snorting them. I've always preferred smoking it.
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Old 2008-04-08, 04:41
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Default Re: Patch? hm...

I'd used and abused plenty of opes.... But it's been quite awhile. I've been too broke to afford anything aside from whiskey and weed.

Like I said, I've yet to ask him if they are gels or the thin plastic shit. I've been at class, then work till just now. Tomorrow I should be able to give him a call... I don't plan on getting them if they are not the gels, I don't want to wear the patch. I'd probably just throw up all day if I did that.

Is the gel pretty nasty to smoke, or are the vapes pretty good? I don't really want to feel like I'm inhaling burning asshair or anything.

I'll probably dose up with some oxys the week before I do any of the patch just to get a small tollerance back.
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Old 2008-04-08, 05:00
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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Originally Posted by acid_drop
I'd used and abused plenty of opes.... But it's been quite awhile. I've been too broke to afford anything aside from whiskey and weed.

Like I said, I've yet to ask him if they are gels or the thin plastic shit. I've been at class, then work till just now. Tomorrow I should be able to give him a call... I don't plan on getting them if they are not the gels, I don't want to wear the patch. I'd probably just throw up all day if I did that.

Is the gel pretty nasty to smoke, or are the vapes pretty good? I don't really want to feel like I'm inhaling burning asshair or anything.

I'll probably dose up with some oxys the week before I do any of the patch just to get a small tollerance back.

Even if they're not gels, you can still chew them up. I've also heard of cutting them and soaking in water, but have no first hand knowledge of that one.

The vapor is pretty much non-existent, so don't worry about that. Unless you're really looking at it, you may not even see the vapor.
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Old 2008-04-08, 06:27
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Even if they're not gels, you can still chew them up. I've also heard of cutting them and soaking in water, but have no first hand knowledge of that one.

The vapor is pretty much non-existent, so don't worry about that. Unless you're really looking at it, you may not even see the vapor.

Cool beans. I heard it's not the safest way to be eating the things due to OD potential. And again, I have a kinda high natural tolerance, but no current abuse tolerance to opes anymore. So with smoking I would be able to gauge it far better I think.

I read back through some posts using the search function and it seems you have done so. Which is your preferred method?

I don't know man.
God I just smoked a bowl of keif and I'm feeling pretty damn good.
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Old 2008-04-08, 07:15
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I would imagine that vaping it would be the safest option, you would probably pass out before you OD (worst case). I know this is the case with H and would figure it is the same in this situation.

Let me put it this way, if I was to take fent I would be smoking it and not eating/snorting it!
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Old 2008-04-08, 07:38
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I would imagine that vaping it would be the safest option, you would probably pass out before you OD. I know this is the case with H and would figure it is the same in this situation.

Let me put it this way, if I was to take fent I would be smoking it and not eating/snorting it!

I prefer smoking those things I can as compared to other methods.. I don't know what I'm applying that all too though, considering I've never smoked crack or meth.. Done some speed(not a big speed fan) and coke never smoked the free base of them though.

BUT!(Jesus I"m ripped[not smoking for a month rules]) I always feel like I'm more likely to go out of my gourd than OD. And it hits faster, so i don't keep dosing shit thinking it's weak.
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Old 2008-04-08, 23:32
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I suggest vaporizing.
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Old 2008-04-08, 23:45
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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Default Re: Patch? hm...

Which is your preferred method?Smoking, definitely.
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Old 2008-04-09, 06:43
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Smoking, definitely.

Badass. The ope itch bad?
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Old 2008-04-09, 23:41
robinhoody robinhoody is offline
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Badass. The ope itch bad?Couldn't say. The only opioids that have ever caused me any real itching were codeine and hydrocodone.
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Old 2008-04-11, 02:48
xxdarksidexx xxdarksidexx is offline
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Default Re: Patch? hm...

Even if you ate a 1/4 of the goo on the 10 100 mcg you would probably get off good.So just rip that bitch up and eat about 1/4-1/2 of it if you got a pretty good tolerance.You aint gunna die trust me maybe the worse thing youll get is a little nauseous.
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Old 2008-04-11, 03:21
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Smoking it will make it last way longer. The patch I mean, not the actual high.
 
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