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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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 2008-04-07, 05:27
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fat_thighs 
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How do dealers get caught?
I'm curious because someone I know was recently caught, and I read about it in the paper. He was a very careful guy, but someone ratted him out. One of the people he sold to got arrested for reselling his product, and then he ratted out the person I know. They then accompanied the rat directly to the dealer's house, and he made a deal (not knowing the rat was arrested) and then they raided his house.
What are other ways dealers have been caught in the past?
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#2
 2008-04-07, 05:58
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Its pretty obvious how they get caught.
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#3
 2008-04-07, 06:24
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
posting on totse!
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#4
 2008-04-07, 06:44
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Lots of traffic around dealer's house if the dealer selling out of there. Cops watch. Cops eventually get evidence. Cops bust dealer.
Cops pulls over someone transporting drugs and they get busted.
IR to see grow lights through the building if growing weed.
Someone finds outside grow op and grower gets busted.
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#5
 2008-04-07, 07:05
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Being too beautiful.
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#6
 2008-04-07, 13:12
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
when a dealer gets pinched, or anyone pinched for selling product, the authorities try there best to flip said person to get someone higher up the food chain. now someone selling dimes and dubs will usually flip on the person they buy their ounces/QP's from. but thats usually the end of the line...
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#7
 2008-04-07, 13:38
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Getting greedy and selling to just anyone.
If a dealer starts selling to people he doesn't know, odds are one of these people is going to end up being a rat or just a plain stupid kid that doesn't know how to keep it's mouth shut.
Dealers, especially ones just starting out need to get really comfortable with their customers. Then they can spread out to friends of friends and other potential customers. Don't be stupid though, know who you're dealing to.
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#8
 2008-04-07, 14:12
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Lots of traffic around dealer's house if the dealer selling out of there. Cops watch. Cops eventually get evidence. Cops bust dealer.
yup most of the time it goes like - tip > surveillance permit > search warrant > raid
IR to see grow lights through the building if growing weed.
lulz, where did you hear about this? mtv? your probably thinking thermal imaging but that is illegal and cant be used in court or to obtain a search warrant, privacy laws in most states wouldnt allow it.
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#9
 2008-04-07, 15:06
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Most of the time its your neighbors you have to worry about. Especially people with familys. They dont want that shit around them. Another thing you have to worry about is making enemy's. Anyone can make an anonymous tip. People dont usually get ratted on for selling small shit.
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#10
 2008-04-07, 15:29
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
From doing it for too long... they all get caught eventually if they don't quit while they're ahead.
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#11
 2008-04-07, 15:50
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
By either:
A. being stupid
B. being lazy/ not careful
C. being unlucky
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#12
 2008-04-07, 16:23
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
-friends hook them up with people to sell to who are vouched-for but actually untrustworthy
-they start bragging about their money and not keeping it hush-hush
-they make a habit of carrying lots of product around with them at all times, and it's found when they get pulled over for traffic violations
-they have noisy people round their place all hours of the day and night, and the neighbors get suspicious
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#13
 2008-04-07, 16:35
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
IR to see grow lights through the building if growing weed.
Unfortunately, the ACLU fought that and it was declared illegal under the 4th amendment. :(
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#14
 2008-04-07, 16:38
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
If a dealer starts selling to people he doesn't know, odds are one of these people is going to end up being a rat or just a plain stupid kid that doesn't know how to keep it's mouth shut.
What's the benefit of keeping your mouth shut when talking can get you off?
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#15
 2008-04-07, 16:40
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
What's the benefit of keeping your mouth shut when talking can get you off?
its a matter of morals/ethics.
the benefit is more to your friend than you. if you're selfish and weak-willed, you will snitch. if you have compassion and are concerned with 'what is right' rather than 'what has more of a direct benefit to me at the moment' you will not implicate the other guy... especially when it's probably your own damn fault you got caught anyway.
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#16
 2008-04-07, 17:14
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
What's the benefit of keeping your mouth shut when talking can get you off?
because that dealer thats getting you the weed you like to smoke so much is taking a risk to get that to you, and even though most dealers make good money, you should appreciate them more. that and, if you rat them out and people find out, you could be dry/getting bad shit for a while.
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#17
 2008-04-07, 20:38
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
because that dealer thats getting you the weed you like to smoke so much is taking a risk to get that to you, and even though most dealers make good money, you should appreciate them more. that and, if you rat them out and people find out, you could be dry/getting bad shit for a while.
its a matter of morals/ethics.
the benefit is more to your friend than you. if you're selfish and weak-willed, you will snitch. if you have compassion and are concerned with 'what is right' rather than 'what has more of a direct benefit to me at the moment' you will not implicate the other guy... especially when it's probably your own damn fault you got caught anyway.
You guys don't know what you're talking about.
Let me tell you right now, the only person you need to worry about is yourself. Fuck everybody else. They don't give a fuck about you, why care about them? They wouldn't save your ass, they'd rat you out just like it was nothing.
When you're looking at anything under 6 months, obviously don't do it and just take your time.
But when you're sitting there facing 5 years of your life? Sorry, but nobody is worth going to prison for 5 years for.
And the dealers don't give a shit about you and how much you enjoy their weed. They care about money. Not you or your family. Their money. The end. They don't do it to make people happy. It's a business.
and dropping dimes on fools to save your own ass is just business. Nothing personal.
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#18
 2008-04-07, 21:05
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
You guys don't know what you're talking about.
Let me tell you right now, the only person you need to worry about is yourself. Fuck everybody else. They don't give a fuck about you, why care about them? They wouldn't save your ass, they'd rat you out just like it was nothing.
When you're looking at anything under 6 months, obviously don't do it and just take your time.
But when you're sitting there facing 5 years of your life? Sorry, but nobody is worth going to prison for 5 years for.
And the dealers don't give a shit about you and how much you enjoy their weed. They care about money. Not you or your family. Their money. The end. They don't do it to make people happy. It's a business.
and dropping dimes on fools to save your own ass is just business. Nothing personal.
That's bullshit. Though my dealer MAY care more about the numbers, his customers comfort is a priority and he will offer various strains for different problems.
I know for a fact he wouldn't give my name for anything, and I know for a fact he actually gives a shit about my pain, as well as others.
Granted, this is NOT the norm, in fact, it is the one exception, I've never met anyone like him before, but my point is, there ARE people out there who care.
But condoning snitching is just fucked up man. and 9/10 times snitching won't do SHIT to help you. You still keep your same fucking charges.
When I was about 18 I got busted, and was offered that deal, and saw it as a chance to get back at people who've fucked me in the past, so I gave a few names. Not just names, addresses, phone numbers, product listing, the fucking WORKS.
Guess what? Not a god damn thing happened. I kept my same charges, and those fuckers got off scot fucking free. And it was for much more than just weed.
And don't give me shit about snitching, these people were fucks who were robbing people by force. Not me, I just got ripped off a few times, but they were known to just set up a deal, and then just rob the guy. Not fucking cool, and very deserving of at least a snitch, if not a fucking bullet in the face.
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#19
 2008-04-07, 21:49
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Unfortunately, the ACLU fought that and it was declared illegal under the 4th amendment. :(
what? you want the government to be able to look at your house with thermal imaging?
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#20
 2008-04-08, 00:52
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
[QUOTE=fat_thighs;9828458]someone ratted him out. One of the people he sold to got arrested for reselling his product, and then he ratted out the person I know. They then accompanied the rat directly to the dealer's house, and he made a deal (not knowing the rat was arrested) and then they raided his house.
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y do u answer your own questions?
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#21
 2008-04-08, 00:58
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
I would take the fall. I am one that works for respect and would sacrifice myself to keep that respect. I'd rather do 5 years than do 5 months and be treated like shit everywhere.
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#22
 2008-04-08, 01:06
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Most dealers buy too much shit with their newfound cash. They buy like 2 new, nice cars at once, and then the neighbors are like " lol wat? How sanchez afford that BMW???"
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#23
 2008-04-08, 01:08
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
^that and the fact that your money is monitored every year via taxes and whatnot. If they see an enormous amount of money without any real reason for having it they might assume you're working under the table or something of the sort.
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#24
 2008-04-08, 01:31
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
y do u answer your own questions?
I'm curious as to other ways dealers get caught. Obviously, being sold out by a rat seeking less jail-time is not the only way.
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#25
 2008-04-08, 02:08
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/93/47/23494793.jpg
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#26
 2008-04-08, 03:22
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
yup most of the time it goes like - tip > surveillance permit > search warrant > raid
lulz, where did you hear about this? mtv? your probably thinking thermal imaging but that is illegal and cant be used in court or to obtain a search warrant, privacy laws in most states wouldnt allow it.
I meant what I said. I've never seen anything about that on MTV, but I have seen it on Weeds. I've read about that shit happening, don't know where, and don't care enough to look it up.
Unfortunately, the ACLU fought that and it was declared illegal under the 4th amendment. :(
Excellent.
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#27
 2008-04-08, 04:26
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
what? you want the government to be able to look at your house with thermal imaging?
rolloffle strikes me as a snitch.
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#28
 2008-04-08, 04:32
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Unfortunately, the ACLU fought that and it was declared illegal under the 4th amendment. :(
I smell bacon...
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#29
 2008-04-08, 04:41
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
I meant what I said. I've never seen anything about that on MTV, but I have seen it on Weeds. I've read about that shit happening, don't know where, and don't care enough to look it up.
The episode where cops find the stolen cross holding up lights and they have that perfect outline of it on the map with all little lights pointed out on all houses on that map... yea not everything you see in weeds is true irl. however I have heard that cops chasing a suspect at night can legally use thermal cams to track him and if they come across an obvious heat signature "by accident" while chasing the suspect then they can use that as evidence.
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#30
 2008-04-08, 04:41
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
They get stupid...
Or are stupid...
That is all, and that is RIGHT kids! if you have half a brain you can make multiple thousands of dollars selling drugs.
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#31
 2008-04-08, 05:41
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
The episode where cops find the stolen cross holding up lights and they have that perfect outline of it on the map with all little lights pointed out on all houses on that map... yea not everything you see in weeds is true irl. however I have heard that cops chasing a suspect at night can legally use thermal cams to track him and if they come across an obvious heat signature "by accident" while chasing the suspect then they can use that as evidence.
That shit was funny. Next season is gonna be awesome. http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2102.html
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#32
 2008-04-08, 06:36
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
The episode where cops find the stolen cross holding up lights and they have that perfect outline of it on the map with all little lights pointed out on all houses on that map... yea not everything you see in weeds is true irl. however I have heard that cops chasing a suspect at night can legally use thermal cams to track him and if they come across an obvious heat signature "by accident" while chasing the suspect then they can use that as evidence.
Bullshit, it can be used to further another investigation, but they CAN NOT kick down your door for seeing fucking heat signatures in your house. Anything found would be thrown straight the fuck out of court with any semi competent lawyer.
There is something called a search warrant son. Without a legitimate reason to think that someone was being hurt, or there was fire, etc, an IMMEDIATE emergency, they have no right to enter. They go get a search warrant.
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#33
 2008-04-08, 14:14
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Bullshit, it can be used to further another investigation, but they CAN NOT kick down your door for seeing fucking heat signatures in your house. Anything found would be thrown straight the fuck out of court with any semi competent lawyer.
There is something called a search warrant son. Without a legitimate reason to think that someone was being hurt, or there was fire, etc, an IMMEDIATE emergency, they have no right to enter. They go get a search warrant.
Yup those are my thoughts as well, im just stating what "i heard".
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#34
 2008-04-08, 14:30
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
snitches get stitches... If you snitch on someone high up you better fucking leave town, you got caught on your own. The dealer goes out of his way to get you substance like a favor. If dealers didnt care about the customers they wouldnt have any. A cut face goes well with an open mouth.
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#35
 2008-04-10, 21:40
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
lotta acolyte's in this thread.
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#36
 2008-04-11, 00:14
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
You guys don't know what you're talking about.
Let me tell you right now, the only person you need to worry about is yourself. Fuck everybody else. They don't give a fuck about you, why care about them? They wouldn't save your ass, they'd rat you out just like it was nothing.
When you're looking at anything under 6 months, obviously don't do it and just take your time.
But when you're sitting there facing 5 years of your life? Sorry, but nobody is worth going to prison for 5 years for.
And the dealers don't give a shit about you and how much you enjoy their weed. They care about money. Not you or your family. Their money. The end. They don't do it to make people happy. It's a business.
and dropping dimes on fools to save your own ass is just business. Nothing personal.
Fuck you're lucky i'm out of stims and lack the motivation to look up where you live and relay this post to everyone you know...
I hope you're robbed beaten and raped you stupid fucking cunt. If you wanna buy, you deal with the consequences. Let the police work for there next deal, they don't care about you either. You're still going to get charged, they just put in a good word to the judge about your co-operation.
Next time asshole, next time.
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#37
 2008-04-11, 00:38
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Fuck you're lucky i'm out of stims and lack the motivation to look up where you live and relay this post to everyone you know...
I hope you're robbed beaten and raped you stupid fucking cunt. If you wanna buy, you deal with the consequences. Let the police work for there next deal, they don't care about you either. You're still going to get charged, they just put in a good word to the judge about your co-operation.
Next time asshole, next time.
lol retards think that most drug dealers have honor
I agree with the guy you quoted. Most drug dealers only care about their bottom line and would snitch out every person they know does drugs. It's fucking business.
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#38
 2008-04-11, 01:20
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
When I Sold Bud I Was Sellin This Kid A Quater Only Had One Gram On Me Popo Pulled Him Over Got Me Out The Car Arsted Me For Simple Possesion Two Days Later Cops Came To My House With A Search Warrent And Got Me With 2 1/2 Lbs Of Nuggets Them Police Damn Near Got Me Killed Owed Dude 5,000 Good Thing They Dident Get My Money I Had Saved Up But I Was A Juvinile Then So All I Got Was 90 Days Camp And 5 Months House Arrest
HELL yah dude snitched on me to but i never gave my dealer up thats why i got that house arrest for not snitchin but in the hood your moms get a bullet in the head if you snitch on the wrong dealer
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#39
 2008-04-11, 01:23
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
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When I Sold Bud I Was Sellin This Kid A Quater Only Had One Gram On Me Popo Pulled Him Over Got Me Out The Car Arsted Me For Simple Possesion Two Days Later Cops Came To My House With A Search Warrent And Got Me With 2 1/2 Lbs Of Nuggets Them Police Damn Near Got Me Killed Owed Dude 5,000 Good Thing They Dident Get My Money I Had Saved Up But I Was A Juvinile Then So All I Got Was 90 Days Camp And 5 Months House Arrest
HELL yah dude snitched on me to but i never gave my dealer up thats why i got that house arrest for not snitchin but in the hood your moms get a bullet in the head if you snitch on the wrong dealer
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#40
 2008-04-11, 03:52
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
I smell bacon...
i smell grease...
people get caught for being snitches, or being stupid. its really not that hard to deal and make good moneyz without getting caught.
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 2008-04-11, 04:00
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
i have yet to meet a dealer who gives a shit about anything but his profits. all dealers of course have friends they deal to that they wouldn't rat out, but the buck stops there.
my connections are nothing but a name and a phone number and i like to keep it that way.
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#42
 2008-04-11, 04:43
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
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Lots of traffic around dealer's house if the dealer selling out of there. Cops watch. Cops eventually get evidence. Cops bust dealer.
Cops pulls over someone transporting drugs and they get busted.
IR to see grow lights through the building if growing weed.
Someone finds outside grow op and grower gets busted.
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Or somebody snitches. Somebody would rather the dealer go to jail for selling meth, than going to jail themselves for posession.
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#43
 2008-06-21, 11:32
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Dodgy friends of friends.
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#44
 2008-06-21, 20:37
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
What's the benefit of keeping your mouth shut when talking can get you off?
not getting shot....
i try to keep my knowledge to a minimum as far as who moves large amounts of anything... but still there are people with friends who if i ever ratted out one of those people would probably put a bullet through my head... there are some people you just don't fuck over...
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#45
 2008-06-21, 20:54
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^that and the fact that your money is monitored every year via taxes and whatnot. If they see an enormous amount of money without any real reason for having it they might assume you're working under the table or something of the sort.
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Yea, because dealers file their drug money....
Seriously? If you were dealing would you ever file CASH that you get from selling drugs as a source of income? NO
You could make up a fake business, but then you need receipts. And products. you could, but it would be harder than just buying and selling.
THERE IS NO TAX FORM FOR DRUG DEALER, get a real job and just file taxes there. Anything you do with your pay you don't need to file.
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#46
 2008-06-21, 21:41
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
because santa claus is watching
he's make a list
are you on it?
edit: mine grammar is dope is it not
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#47
 2008-06-21, 23:35
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
What's the benefit of keeping your mouth shut when talking can get you off?
Your life.
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#48
 2008-06-22, 00:34
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
What's the benefit of keeping your mouth shut when talking can get you off?ERRR, just DON'T talk to the police. You'll only end up incriminating yourself MORE.
You think what that cop tells you means shit? NO. The only way you can be guaranteed something is to get it signed by the DA or a judge. Talking to the police doesn't help you.
Anyone who is smart knows talking to the police won't get you anywhere. Thats why only kids and idiots rat out people straight to detectives.
I know a few dealers whose guys have actually bailed them out with cash, their bail was no less than $10,000.
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#49
 2008-06-22, 00:57
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
The cops think that by catching you they can get you to tell them your dealer. Then they think that by catching that dealer they can get him to snitch on his dealer who will then lead them to the guy growing it in a field somewhere in California. Obviously it doesn't work like that or they would've won the "War on drugs" already. To keep the prosperous flow of drugs intact it is your duty to take it like a man and serve your sentence. So to everyone claiming that snitching will get you a limo and a handful of cash from the pigs I say: Fuck off.
However I have never been to jail and do not claim to know anything about it. I just don't want my dealers to be thrown away.
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 2008-06-22, 01:55
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
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because santa claus is watching
he's make a list
are you on it?
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Santa Clause is bringing you down
he knows when you are sleeping
he knows when you are baked
he knows what drugs are bad and good
and you knows how much you take
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#51
 2008-06-22, 01:58
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Santa Clause is bringing you down
he knows when you are sleeping
he knows when you are baked
he knows what drugs are bad and good
and you knows how much you take
STUPID NOOB IS SANTA !!!
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#52
 2008-06-22, 02:08
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
What's the benefit of keeping your mouth shut when talking can get you off?
You get respect as opposed to losing it.
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 2008-06-22, 02:55
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
You get respect as opposed to losing it.
Yeah, because jail = respect. Dumb ass. With that said, if you get caught with dope and get arrested, that's not your dealers fault. And if you like using the drug that your dealer can supply you, it's best to not say anything. And as has been said, the cops will tell you anything to get the higher up person until they get to the end.
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#54
 2008-06-29, 03:38
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Re: How do dealers get caught?
Yeah, because jail = respect. Dumb ass. With that said, if you get caught with dope and get arrested, that's not your dealers fault. And if you like using the drug that your dealer can supply you, it's best to not say anything. And as has been said, the cops will tell you anything to get the higher up person until they get to the end.
Not to bump an old thread, but I must have glanced over it.
Jail=/=respect
but jail=more respect than snitching.
I'd have a lot more respect for a friend who went to jail instead of ratting on me than someone who ratted me out so they could walk free.
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