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Old 2008-04-07, 05:00
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Default Chlorphenamine and mdma.

so i know this chick who wants to do mdma. thing is shes on Chlorphenamine which according to wikipedia inhibits reuptake of serotonin. so should doses be adjusted or should she just not do it? ssri isnt a huge possibility i would think.
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Old 2008-04-07, 05:48
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Default Re: Chlorphenamine and mdma.

its just an anti histamine it will be fine, same dose.

ssri isnt a huge possibility i would think.

what does that mean?
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Old 2008-04-07, 05:54
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Default Re: Chlorphenamine and mdma.

its just an anti histamine it will be fine, same dose.



what does that mean?

oh shit its the result of my ADD i meant serotonin syndrome. alright thanks i mean i didnt think much of it but i dont want a person who trusted me to get a painful and sometimes fatal disease.
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Old 2008-04-07, 13:31
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wow 420inchrims im gonna give you an answer from wikipedia. dont just look at the first paragraph.

not only is it an antihistamine, but an ssri, and a potentiator of opiates.

if she were to not take it that day, the antihistamine effects would go away, so there will be no risk of stimulant/depressent working against eachother.

the ssri effect will still be in play. its up to debate and everyone has their own opinion on mdma and hallucinogens with ssris on totse. i personally wouldnt risk it, but why dont you get some more responses
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Old 2008-04-07, 18:17
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Default Re: Chlorphenamine and mdma.

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wow 420inchrims im gonna give you an answer from wikipedia. dont just look at the first paragraph.

not only is it an antihistamine, but an ssri, and a potentiator of opiates.

if she were to not take it that day, the antihistamine effects would go away, so there will be no risk of stimulant/depressent working against eachother.

the ssri effect will still be in play. its up to debate and everyone has their own opinion on mdma and hallucinogens with ssris on totse. i personally wouldnt risk it, but why dont you get some more responses


Got me again. ill take this one on the chin.
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Old 2008-04-07, 22:22
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Default Re: Chlorphenamine and mdma.

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Originally Posted by kwerjack
wow 420inchrims im gonna give you an answer from wikipedia. dont just look at the first paragraph.

not only is it an antihistamine, but an ssri, and a potentiator of opiates.

if she were to not take it that day, the antihistamine effects would go away, so there will be no risk of stimulant/depressent working against eachother.

the ssri effect will still be in play. its up to debate and everyone has their own opinion on mdma and hallucinogens with ssris on totse. i personally wouldnt risk it, but why dont you get some more responses


so how long would it take for the ssri effect to dissipate? it takes a while right?
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Old 2008-04-08, 02:33
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Default Re: Chlorphenamine and mdma.

so how long would it take for the ssri effect to dissipate? it takes a while right?

yeah dude it would take two-three weeks and youd have to go down by intervals for like three days. not worth it just take it she either will or wont feel the mdma, no ill effects, like serotonin syndrome.
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Old 2008-04-08, 03:24
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Serotonin Syndrome
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Old 2008-04-08, 03:41
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Serotonin Syndrome

why did you even write that?
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Old 2008-04-08, 23:11
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Default Re: Chlorphenamine and mdma.

She won't feel it.

AT ALL

except for the meth in the pill.


and if it has DXM enjoy your SSRI syndrome.
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Old 2008-04-09, 00:19
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Default Re: Chlorphenamine and mdma.

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She won't feel it.

AT ALL

except for the meth in the pill.


and if it has DXM enjoy your SSRI syndrome.


so why wouldnt she feel it with the mdma but not get s.s but the dextromethorphan would give it? just the stacking/synergy effect?
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Old 2008-04-09, 03:16
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well its not accepted fact, but, depending on body chemistry, some people feel the effects of mdma on ssris, and some dont. this is because they both effect serotonin in the nervous system.

if the ecstasy pill contains dxm, it is likely that she will get serotonin syndrome. either get pure molly and risk whatever amount of money depending on whether she feels the effects or not, or just dont even bother.
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Old 2008-04-09, 03:36
weirdlittlepotsmoker weirdlittlepotsmoker is offline
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Default Re: Chlorphenamine and mdma.

Dont bother. You dont know what are in rolls when you buy them unless you have a kit to test them. Dont go by what your dealer says. Its not worth it.
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Old 2008-04-09, 03:45
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Default Re: Chlorphenamine and mdma.

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well its not accepted fact, but, depending on body chemistry, some people feel the effects of mdma on ssris, and some dont. this is because they both effect serotonin in the nervous system.

if the ecstasy pill contains dxm, it is likely that she will get serotonin syndrome. either get pure molly and risk whatever amount of money depending on whether she feels the effects or not, or just dont even bother.


ok what i was asking is why the dxm is so much more likely to cause serotonin syndrome ?
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Old 2008-04-09, 03:54
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Isn't chlorphenamine a hayfever med?

Do you reckon she could put up with the hives and stuffy nose for a few days? :)
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Old 2008-04-09, 03:58
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ok what i was asking is why the dxm is so much more likely to cause serotonin syndrome ?

no clue, why does it matter?
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Old 2008-04-09, 03:59
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no clue, you work it out.

Fixed. :)
 
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