About 8 months ago I was really psyched by this and wanted to order, but never obtained the money and forgot about it.

BZP is supposedly like speed w/o the side effects.
MBZP is like BZP but moar euphoric.
TMFPP is supposedly like MDMA, w/o the empathy/side effects.
MCPP is supposedly like MDMA, w/o the side effects
PFPP is supposedly psychedelic/mdma
A few moar I didn't mention.

I say supposedly because it sounds too good to be true.

Anyone ever tried any?

your MOAR gay than i thought. but to be serious no ive never tried any, never really came across any. this is probably the best thread ive ever seen you make, if not the only good one ive seen you make. 100* better than social thoughts on drugs. Props

I'm interested...

Dont waste you're time.

Yeah I have heard they are pretty bunk.

I have heard BZP itself is just a 12 hour tweaked headache...

Dont waste your time.

Fixed.

God I wish that I could write "yoar a fuckwit."

Fuck it, I will anyway.

Yoar a fuckwit.

amen.

I have tried BZP/TMFPP a few times and it was decent but felt kind of dirty and kept me awake quite a while after it stopped being fun. Enhanced sensations like MDMA. I would compare it a little to MDMA but no where near as good. I would say it has more side effects, just generally not as good but similar.

Iv taken it intentionally and unintentionally a number of times, it really isn't worth paying for its a shit high and leaves you feeling shit and tweaked for about a day afterwards. The side affects just aren't worth that crappy high.

pFPP is horrble and no psycedelic effects whatsoever. mCPP will make you more sick than you'd ever want to be, but than a bit like rolling. So what you said before is the oppisite. mCPP is like MDMA but with MORE side effects. The two really are not worthwhile from my experiences, as for the others I cannot say.

moar? are you fucking serious?

not only does all that not make sense, but it is utter marketing bullshit.

MDMA is different from MethAmphetamine because of the seritogenic storm it brews.... so what the fuck is "like MDMA, w/o the empathy/side effects"

And when you say: "like speed w/o the side effects" the reason people abuse speed is for its "side effects"


and i didn't feel all this when i drank a half a pound of high grade kava because.....

I was fucked up to say the least.... but i was not : tweeked, euphoric, rolling, or tripping. It did feel like i was clear-headedly drunk though.:)

the only reason you read this is because it is legal...... the chemicals are intoxicating at best, and bullshit marketing.

Yes I did and they're fucking horrible, by far the worst drug experience of my life.

A couple of years back I was given quite an amount of those pills in a north London smart shop for free due to the fact that when shrooms were legal I was a loyal regular customer and the girl who owns the shop wanted to thank me for still going there to say hi even though shrooms had been banned and there was no reason for me to go to the shop.

Anyway she gave me different brands, some of them were branded P.E.P. pills and I think if I remember correctly were 200 mgs of bzp in each pill.

I took two in uni in the library having read that bzp should feel similar to dexedrine, but those pills fucking sucked, it feels like the dirtiest speed you ever had, no euphoria just jitterness and edgyness.

Plus they last for centuries, I couldn't sleep for well over 24 hours afer dropping them, worst feeling ever.

The other type were supposed to be psichedelic on the packaging it said that they were supposed to be a no risk legal alternative to drugs like lsd,

Lol, lsd my ass, those things weren't even remotely similar to acid, they had a mixture of bzp and tmfpp or something like that, plus it said on the ingredients list a "piperazine blend" which sounded quite misterious.

Anyway they felt like the bzp alone but with an amazingly intense headfuck, but not even remotely enjoyable, I was feeling like I had been poisoned(which I actually was cause those nasty chemicals are not supposed to be put in the human body).

They were actually visual to some extent, as in I had tracers and auras around objects and some CEVs, however the massive headfucking effect just made the experience horrible.

Also with those pills I couldn't sleep for fucking ages, I think stayed up more than 48 hours that time, cause being an idiot I dropped two and then when I wasn't having any visuals I dropped another two a few hours later, which was fucking dumb


She also gave me a third type which supposedly were meant to feel like mdma, but I gave them away, after my piperazine initiation I definately had enough.

Anyway moral of the story, unless you're in New Zealand with no other drugs available or extremely expensive drug prices (those pills I had were from NZ) KEEP AWAY FROM THEM!

avoid bzp like the fucking plague, there's a reason why they're legal, cause it's not worth making the effort of banning them, no one in a sane mind would use them regularly, they're abosultely 100% worthless shit!

Be safe

Anyway moral of the story, unless you're in New Zealand with no other drugs available or extremely expensive drug prices (those pills I had were from NZ) KEEP AWAY FROM THEM!

avoid bzp like the fucking plague, there's a reason why they're legal, cause it's not worth making the effort of banning them, no one in a sane mind would use them regularly, they're abosultely 100% worthless shit!

Be safe

They have been banned in NZ very recently. Personally I don't give a fuck, except that excess shit will probably end up in the E here.

They also cause crystal dick. (BZP/TMFPP did)

Fixed.

GTFO acolyte.

Fuck. Well then I'm not going to buy.

They have been banned in NZ very recently. Personally I don't give a fuck, except that excess shit will probably end up in the E here.

They also cause crystal dick. (BZP/TMFPP did)

That happens in the UK as well, I don't take pills anymore but I know of people who had bzp pills sold as Es.

They have been banned in NZ very recently. Personally I don't give a fuck, except that excess shit will probably end up in the E here.

They also cause crystal dick. (BZP/TMFPP did)

If its anything like what happened here in the uk when the banned it. I think you can expect to be finding that shit in your pills for a very long time.