So I actually don't have a lot of experience doing anything with coke but putting it up my nose, recently a guy i've been doing a lot of coke with swears by smoking it. He puts it on foil with a bit of baking soda and a drop or two of water and smears it all over then lets it dry. Then he smokes it really quickly starting on one end and doing vertical lines until it's blackened.

Does this work? Is it a waste? There is also another guy there who does the same thing but doesn't use baking soda. I know this is a waste but I don't know how to explain the science to him.

that is probably one of the most retarded things I have ever heard in my life. you suck.

that is probably one of the most retarded things I have ever heard in my life. you suck.

You are the cancer that is killing BLTC.

It would work to an extent, but it would waste a lot of coke.

If you're going to mix baking soda with it and base it up, I suggest doing it before putting it in a smoking device.

It's just a waste of coke.
Crack is for smoking, coke is for snorting.

essentially making crack with a shitty cleanup... add base to coke and water, evap, smoke whats left of the baking soda along with a minimal amount of crack... be much easier to use ammonia so you could use an excess of base that will just evaporate off....

It works, but it's shitty.

He's freebasing. Which is basically crack for rich people who don't want to do crack.

Yes, it's really wasteful.

Thats only for people who cant get over the stigma of "smoking crack"

Actually freebase doesnt involve baking soda.

Actually freebase doesnt involve baking soda.

Exactly, which made me laugh at his poorly informed reply.

Actually freebase doesnt involve baking soda.
Yes, it DOES. Pulling off that acid ion, no matter HOW you do it is freebasing. You are "freeing" the "base" from it's acidic ion.

haha now absolutecaliber looks like a fucking complete moron.
+1 for stupid noob.

and danknugget.
stupid noob + 1 again.

Yes, it DOES. Pulling off that acid ion, no matter HOW you do it is freebasing. You are "freeing" the "base" from it's acidic ion.

Oh really, so real freebase cocaine(not crack) involves the use of baking soda? Cause thats not what i've heard.

Could you try and climb any further up SNs ass?

Faggot...

If I wanted to climb into anyones ass I'd pick yours.. all the stretching and tearing has already been done.

Oh really, so real freebase cocaine(not crack) involves the use of baking soda? Cause thats not what i've heard.
I already fucking explained it moron. And fuck what you heard, go read a fucking chemistry book asshole. Crack IS fucking freebase cocaine.

So theres no difference at all right? Freebase and crack are the exact same thing? Nahh, i dont think so. What do you think about this "A base, typically ammonia (NH3) in the case of traditional "freebase" or sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) in the case of crack freebase, is added to the solution." I'm pretty sure that means theres a little difference there. Sure they are both cocaine base, but i think smoking a "traditional freebase" would be just slightly better then one with baking soda in it. You just got served cockboy.

No fuckhead, you're still wrong. YOUR OWN FUCKING QUOTE EXPLAINS IT. Notice how it says TYPICAL freebase? That means Ammonia isn't the only fucking thing you can use. Baking Soda works too and in both cases you are FREEBASING the cocaine, whether it be with Ammonia or Baking Soda.

crack and freebase (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/cocaine/crack_info1.shtml)

lol selfpwn dumbass.

No fuckhead, you're still wrong. YOUR OWN FUCKING QUOTE EXPLAINS IT. Notice how it says TYPICAL freebase? That means Ammonia isn't the only fucking thing you can use. Baking Soda works too and in both cases you are FREEBASING the cocaine, whether it be with Ammonia or Baking Soda.

I lol'd.

Whoa, whoa, whoa guys i know theres plenty of people here who are always eager to jump on stupid noobs dick, but my point was that their is a difference. Look at it like this, is their a difference between a gram of completely pure cocaine hcl and a gram of cocaine you buy off the street? Yeah, one has been cut which means theres less of the active ingredient. Now if you go buy a gram of freebase cocaine(the type based without baking soda) and a gram of crack(with baking soda) is there a difference?

I'm fairly sure that the difference is about freeing the coke from it's base. It doesn't matter if this is accomplished from a base or acid. It's what happens to the product that matters.

fuckin crackheads arguin about crack.

Yes Dank Nugget, you are correct, there is a difference in purity between street crack, freebased with baking soda, and freebased with ammonia.


With skill, baking soda can yield some damn good crack, and it's the exact same thing happening on a molecular level as when you use ammonia, however ammonia is much easier to use to obtain a higher purity product, being a stronger base. In other words, more bullshit dissolves into the basic solution leaving less product at a higher purity than just baking soda.

alright buddy let me let you in on a secret we call ready roc first you need very good coke if all cut to shit it won't work than you need a stem char boy a table spoon and a penny take the table spoon fill with coke use 2-3 drops of water put flame under it it will than bubble up into a sawgy white paste scrape off with penny than let dry on penny for 20-30 minutes than you have ready rock smoke away

oh by the way fuck boys i'm no scientist so i can't explain the real reason why but an old feind friend of my buddys said the reason why you don't need baking soda is because real good coke conjoins at a certain temp where the molecules in it join together and harden needing no use for baking soda they use the baking soda in ready rock only when the coke is cut to shit.

and yes "SWIM"(lol) has tryed the formula up top and it works very well with a half a gram of fish scale and ive seen and smoked when my buddy used a 1/4 of a oz and no soda

alright buddy let me let you in on a secret we call ready roc first you need very good coke if all cut to shit it won't work than you need a stem char boy a table spoon and a penny take the table spoon fill with coke use 2-3 drops of water put flame under it it will than bubble up into a sawgy white paste scrape off with penny than let dry on penny for 20-30 minutes than you have ready rock smoke away

oh by the way fuck boys i'm no scientist so i can't explain the real reason why but an old feind friend of my buddys said the reason why you don't need baking soda is because real good coke conjoins at a certain temp where the molecules in it join together and harden needing no use for baking soda they use the baking soda in ready rock only when the coke is cut to shit.

and yes "SWIM"(lol) has tryed the formula up top and it works very well with a half a gram of fish scale and ive seen and smoked when my buddy used a 1/4 of a oz and no sodaThat's just smoking coke water, a gentler way to vaporize the salt form, you don't lose as much as if you had just thrown it on a bowl, but your fiend buddy is a jackass. Yes it works but only because the water dissipates the heat allowing for a slower more even heating resulting in a more complete vaporization, as opposed to burning and decomposing without that "buffer" of water there to help keep things even, and a bit cooler and slower.

You're splitting hairs. Baking soda is kind of a lazy way to do it but yeah it works and smokes fine.

I wasn't trying to. I was just saying their is a big difference of equal amounts of street crack and a nearly pure freebase product with no baking soda in it.

Ever since that faggot posted that prom thread all i am going to think of him is some whiney little bitch and not take him seriously.

Ever since that faggot posted that prom thread all i am going to think of him is some whiney little bitch and not take him seriously.

you mean this? http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2116440&highlight=prom

I used to do that alot! Yes, it was somewhat of a waste but IT SURE WAS FUN!
Foilys FTW................

that is probably one of the most retarded things I have ever heard in my life. you suck.

Very very true

You are the cancer that is killing BLTC.

He is but for once he is very fucking right!

It works, but it's shitty.

and its a waste...seriously how fucking hard can be to basify something, are you/your friend fucking retarted?

crack is just a really simple way to freebase cocaine. before people started making crack people used the more involved methods but afaik it doesn't make a damn bit of difference how you freebase it after you ingest it.


freebase is freebase

Coke is for snorting/injecting, crack is for smoking. Trying to snort crack is a waste, trying to smoke coke is a waste. That's why the other form is there.

Freebase could be injected.


IV ether has been proven relatively safe in the annuls of medical history, and freebase could be dissolved in that. Man what a fucking buzz.


Intravenous needs to HURRY THE FUCK UP WITH THE IV ETHER REPORT!