How do they taste? I like smoking cheap cigarillos because they taste good, but I recently learned they have some harsh additives in them to make them burn evenly. And I don't want a nicotine addiction. So I remembered these things? What do they look like? Easy to find?

hard to find, same additives minus the nicotine, and well, they taste like ass. you'd be better off taking grass clippings and rolling em up in a cigarette...



just stick to what you know, incase your in idiot, smoking anything regardless of what the fuck it is, is not good for your health.

The term 'herbal ecstacy' is kinda oxymoron, but I have seen things labelled as 'herbal ecstacy' in head shops myself.


They are quite horrifying, yes. They may not contain actual ecstacy, but the other things in the tab are so bad you'd just be better off popping some real e in the first place!


I've found several types contain something called Piperazine, which is pretty nasty.

I'll move this to BLTC, they'll be able to help you more.

Tried them. They give you a weird buzz, kind of like the first time you try cigerettes. They taste and smell horrible though. I definitely wouldnt recommend them to anyone.

They are gross, and the same buzz can be achieved with supplement pills.

Yoyobek... Where do I begin... How is the phrase Herbal Ecstasy an oxymoron? Do you know the meaning of oxymoron? I'm not sure how you missed the topic of the thread since it's pretty obvious and is the title to the thread itself. No one here is talking about Cloud 9s or other wannabe fake e pills you can buy at head shops. We are talking about the "Cannabis Free, Herbal Ecstasy" cigarettes that are in a black package with a big green butterfly or something on it. But, I'd like to say that you're misinformed with the fake e pills as well. It can't very well be an herbal ecstasy replacement if it has piperazines and other chemicals in it now can it? IF pills like that exist I can almost say with 100% certainty that they aren't advertised as Herbal pills of any kind. And even if they were falsely advertised that way, what makes you think they are worse for you then E (And by which I'm ASSUMING you mean MDMA, even if you probably don't know what that is...)? Piperazines to the best of my knowledge have never been shown to be overly toxic, especially no more so then MDMA. In fact, I'm sure the government would have you believe quite the opposite, but seeing as there are no actual studies done... we are left with no option but to assume they are both dangerous, and equally so since we can't prove one way or the other.
As far as the herbal e cigarettes, it's basically just a bunch of shit. It's stuff like skull cap, cat nip, opium lettuce/wild lettuce, stuff like that. They will give you a SMALL... "Buzz" I guess you'd call it. To be honest, I think it's mostly light headedness brought on by smoke inhalation and lack of oxygen. Also, seeing as most spots charge like 7 or 8 bucks for a pack of like 20 of these things... Not worth it at ALL. I've gotten them a couple times before, the first time just to experience them, the other 2 times because I ran out of weed while on vacation and had to have SOMETHING. Seriously, you'd be WAY better off ordering a few ounces of each of the ingredients and rolling your own. It'd end up being way cheaper per cigarette (WAY cheaper) and you'd even be able to tinker with the amount of each going into each one, allowing you to customize the blend to your personal wants and needs.
If you don't want to make your own, and if you don't want to find some BETTER legal high alternatives (There are plenty out there), AND if you're willing to waste that much money or nothing more then a short light headedness... Well, then these are the herbal cigarettes for you. Just know, that they taste pretty damn shitty, don't have any nicotine or tobacco, are fairly hard to find at stores but easy to get online, fairly expensive, and in my opinion generally not worth it. Enjoy, hope this was helpful.

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Whoah, calm the fuck down man, you tweaking?
That was one hell of a wall of text right there.

Methinks perhaps you should lay off the meth if you're getting so pissed off and aggressive with someone on the internet just because you cant cope with the fact they have an oppinion differing to yours.

i agree.

Wow I've always heard that they taste great! Thanks for letting me know otherwise.

Ghandi, you dumb fucker, herbal ecstacy IS an oxymoron. MDMA is NOT herbal. Do YOU know what an oxymoron is?


And I really didn't bother to read the rest of that wall of text, because judging by your past posts, it's a bunch of useless garbage anyway.


Paragraphs motherfucker, use em. No one is gonna read what you say when it's formatted like that. Oh, you don't care? Then why even bother fucking posting to begin with?

Damn it. I thought you left.

Whoah, calm the fuck down man, you tweaking?
That was one hell of a wall of text right there.

Methinks perhaps you should lay off the meth if you're getting so pissed off and aggressive with someone on the internet just because you cant cope with the fact they have an oppinion differing to yours.
I don't think it was a matter of differing opinions as much as you spewing ridiculous amounts of misinformation every time you come up for air you fat fuck.

Enjoy, hope this was helpful.

Helpful words never come from you. You are a schoolboy masquerading as an experienced drug user on the Internet because you have always been "a bright kid" and all the lavish praise from your guidance counselors has gotten to your head, so now you're trying to make OTHER people think you're smart because you know in your own head-world that you're "the shit".

Seriously, I thought you left after the last time I gave you an e-reaming, when you left the thread with your tail between your legs... yeah, you never did respond to that post, and with good reason. I'd be embarrassed if I got owned that hard too.

Just get out. Nobody likes you or anything you have to say. Personally, I hate you. I seriously hate you more than I have ever hated another human being. You have the most repulsive e-personality ever, and God knows that's a million times better than the real you, because you are undoubtedly also repulsive to look at (attractive people don't spend as much time as you do posting on forums where nobody gives a flying fuck).

Seriously, I hate you so much. Go to hell. I want you to die and go to hell so that you can sit through the same agony that I feel every time I see your name and my heart starts to beat in my eye lid (the sheer idiocy of everything associated with you gives me high blood pressure). I could write a whole BOOK on how much I hate you.

I wish that you were just a troll so I would know you were joking about being THAT RETARDED. God I hate you so much.

This is seriously an unusual amount of hate, even for me.