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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-03-31, 02:58
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tr1p4president 
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first time OC
how much should be snorted for a first time oc user, 180lbs? used hydro before 30mg-50mg and kratom if you wanna count that but otherwise no opiate experience. hydro has not been used in over 6 months so definitely no tolerance at all.
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#2
 2008-03-31, 03:01
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Re: first time OC
I did 40mg my first time with no tolerance. And I regretted it. I threw up ~5 times. mmm...pizza colored too.
I'd start with 20mg and bump 10mg as needed. Maybe start with 30mg, seeing as you way more than me.
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#3
 2008-03-31, 03:02
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tr1p4president 
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Re: first time OC
you snorted 40mg with no tolerance? i thought that would be enough to take you to the ER how much do you weigh?
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#4
 2008-03-31, 03:09
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Re: first time OC
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Originally Posted by tr1p4president
you snorted 40mg with no tolerance? i thought that would be enough to take you to the ER how much do you weigh?
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I was going to say 20 to 60, so 40mg is about right.
And 40mg will only send you to an ER is you're paranoid type and go to the ER at the first sign of a problem.
I have a huge - I mean huge - tolerance to opiates due to years of use and a very high level of pain [and a natural tolerance to begin with].
The other night I took 320mg of Oxy and 120mg of morphine aver a 10-12 hour period and I was just starting to do some good nodding...So you can see that 40mg ain't going to really hurt anyone [well, small kids maybe...].
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#5
 2008-03-31, 03:15
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Re: first time OC
20 - 30mg seems to be the magic range.
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#6
 2008-03-31, 03:43
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Re: first time OC
I was going to say 20 to 60, so 40mg is about right.
And 40mg will only send you to an ER is you're paranoid type and go to the ER at the first sign of a problem.
I have a huge - I mean huge - tolerance to opiates due to years of use and a very high level of pain [and a natural tolerance to begin with].
The other night I took 320mg of Oxy and 120mg of morphine aver a 10-12 hour period and I was just starting to do some good nodding...So you can see that 40mg ain't going to really hurt anyone [well, small kids maybe...].
reported to the FBI
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#7
 2008-03-31, 04:21
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Re: first time OC
??????????????
40 to the ER? Is this a joke?
No tolerance, in my experience, goes as this:
20 to buzz, 40 to nod, 60 to throw up, 80 isn't fucked w/.
My girl could snort half an 80 w/ me and handled it fine w/o tolerance, what the fuck?
If you do 20, you will regret not doing the whole 40 at one time, which you are going to do later (finish the last 20) anyways.
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#8
 2008-03-31, 04:22
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Re: first time OC
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Originally Posted by thatcoolkid
20 - 30mg seems to be the magic range.
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#9
 2008-03-31, 05:26
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Re: first time OC
Prepare to fight the invisible monster which is called opiate addiction doin oc's will get you there quick.
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#10
 2008-03-31, 18:02
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Re: first time OC
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Originally Posted by 187coopa
Prepare to fight the invisible monster which is called opiate addiction doin oc's will get you there quick.
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hahahaha
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#11
 2008-03-31, 18:54
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Re: first time OC
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Originally Posted by 187coopa
Prepare to fight the invisible monster which is called opiate addiction doin oc's will get you there quick.
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get the fuck out of here
20mgs was my first time, was good
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#12
 2008-03-31, 21:30
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Re: first time OC
I was going to say 20 to 60, so 40mg is about right.
And 40mg will only send you to an ER is you're paranoid type and go to the ER at the first sign of a problem.
I have a huge - I mean huge - tolerance to opiates due to years of use and a very high level of pain [and a natural tolerance to begin with].
The other night I took 320mg of Oxy and 120mg of morphine aver a 10-12 hour period and I was just starting to do some good nodding...So you can see that 40mg ain't going to really hurt anyone [well, small kids maybe...].
what disease do you have that requires you to take so much? doesn't tolerance only matter for getting high, or does it affect the analgesia as well, cuz if it doesn't fuck up with the analgesia you should fucking lower your dose for a while ,so then when your tolerance goes down you dont have to take as much to get fucked up.
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#13
 2008-03-31, 21:55
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Re: first time OC
what disease do you have that requires you to take so much? doesn't tolerance only matter for getting high, or does it affect the analgesia as well, cuz if it doesn't fuck up with the analgesia you should fucking lower your dose for a while ,so then when your tolerance goes down you dont have to take as much to get fucked up.
meta has gone through some shit... something like having bones removed, ground up, reformed and put back together... and then they gave him some Tylenol for post op pain...
tolerance fucks with analgesia...
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#14
 2008-03-31, 22:06
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Re: first time OC
meta has gone through some shit... something like having bones removed, ground up, reformed and put back together... and then they gave him some Tylenol for post op pain...
tolerance fucks with analgesia...
yea that doesn't really tell me what his disease/disorder is....and you made it sound kind of funny cuz the first thing i thought of after i read it was that he was having problems BECAUSE of his bones being removed,i was like wtf who gets bones removed
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#15
 2008-03-31, 22:12
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Re: first time OC
yea that doesn't really tell me what his disease/disorder is....and you made it sound kind of funny cuz the first thing i thought of after i read it was that he was having problems BECAUSE of his bones being removed,i was like wtf who gets bones removed
that put him in alot of pain and i think hes still in pain from it... not sure why it happened but as far as memory goes thats what i think causes him to be in pain.. im sure meta can explain better as to what happened...
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#16
 2008-03-31, 23:04
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tr1p4president 
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Re: first time OC
how long do you feel the oc?
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#17
 2008-04-01, 00:28
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Re: first time OC
you will feel it for at least 3 hours. i would be careful on first dosage if you don't want to throw up. first time i did 20 mg snorted i threw up. i have a naturally fucking really low tolerance. 7.5mgs gets me a NICE buzz. i usually take 11.2mgs (7.5mg + a half (3.7mg)) and i could nod off 20mg.
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#18
 2008-04-01, 00:45
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Re: first time OC
Eat 20mgs to start with (using the potentiation formula (http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2080412), of course) and wait an hour to see how you feel. If you're not where you want to be, blow 10mg lines (wait half an hour between each line) until you are. Enjoy. :)
I just did oxy for the first time on Wednesday and it is my new favourite.
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#19
 2008-04-01, 02:14
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tr1p4president 
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Re: first time OC
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Originally Posted by 187coopa
Prepare to fight the invisible monster which is called opiate addiction doin oc's will get you there quick.
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are you sayin that doing oc's will almost always lead to addiction? im not tryin to talk shit, this is the only reason why i havnt ever tried oc beacuse i was scared i would get hooked. i remember doing 120mg of morphine (taken normally) and lovin it but never actually did it again. i know oc is stronger but how much stronger?
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#20
 2008-04-01, 02:25
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Re: first time OC
are you sayin that doing oc's will almost always lead to addiction? im not tryin to talk shit, this is the only reason why i havnt ever tried oc beacuse i was scared i would get hooked. i remember doing 120mg of morphine (taken normally) and lovin it but never actually did it again. i know oc is stronger but how much stronger?
well 120 mgs. orally of morphine is equivalent to 80 mgs. of oxycodone orally, if that helps.... heres a website where they have equivalent dosages for different opiates
http://www.globalrph.com/narcoticonv.htm
no you will not get hooked after one time... i've done it therapeutic doses of 7.5 mgs every four hours for a week... and have used it recreationally twice and im not addicted...if you really were to get addicted i'd say you'd have to do it daily for like 2 weeks or something (not sure, cuz i'm not addicted)....do it dude its WAY better than morphine... remember if you use drugs responsibly you have no chance of getting addicted.
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#21
 2008-04-01, 03:04
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Re: first time OC
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20 - 30mg seems to be the magic range.
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Truth. I did 20 my first time, felt fucking awesome but knew that a bit more would be even more fucking awesome, and after multiple experiences, 30 mg is my favorite. I tend to throw up when I push it past 40, but it doesn't matter cause you feel fucking AMAZING when you aren't and actually puking isn't bad either. It's kinda just like "Oh damn, I'm throwing up again, but that doesn't matter at all. Where's my cigarettes?". Also, in addition to the potentiation formula, go with my personal favorite technique, snort half your pile of powder and in between lines parachute the other half, you get the rush of snorting with the longer duration/better absorption of eating the fuckers.
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#22
 2008-04-01, 03:39
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Re: first time OC
The other night I took 320mg of Oxy and 120mg of morphine aver a 10-12 hour period
am i the only one who read this??!?!??
i would be biting dirt already
edit; i suck with quotes
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#23
 2008-04-01, 05:21
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Re: first time OC
am i the only one who read this??!?!??
i would be biting dirt already
edit; i suck with quotes
He said he had huge tolerance, which normally I wouldn't believe but in his case and how shitty of a mod he is it's pretty clear.
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