I've noticed throughout my using life that drugs are treated much moar differently social wise then any other concept in life. I'm talking about RL here, not Totse, but it also applies.

For example, when we hear people bragging about how fucked up they got on how many pills, everyone calls them a faggot and doesn't believe them. It is socially incorrect to talk about how much you did (if it was alot, if it was an average amount that is fine for some reason).

When asked if I can find a certain drug that I know I can potentially get, I say yes and start calling people. If it doesn't work out, I worry that the person who called me first will think I'm just saying I have connects and lying about it for acceptance. I don't EVER worry about people thinking I'm seeking acceptance in any part of life except drug use, and ironically drug use is the area of my life which I never seek acceptance (because I think its moar socially unacceptable) but there are other aspects of life where I find myself actually seeking acceptance.

I believe that drug users should treat drugs like any other vice, such as sex, vandalism, gambling, etc. In those areas, when people brag about what they did, people may or may not believe them, but they are not called out on being an accepting seeking faggot.

Does this make sence? I feel like I'm not putting the correct wording behind this, I'll edit this post later.

TLDR: Drugs are treated by the drug using community MUCH differently then other concepts are. I think this is bullshit, because it is putting drugs on a different level then other things and I believe it should be balanced. The moar we put drugs on a different level then life, the moar the prohibitionists win.

Thoughs?

Honestly... I don't know how to respond to this... but contact me via the MSN or whatever.

jimm_e_urine(at)hotmail.com

The word is MORE you faggot!

If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on.

Stop using moar its so fucking gay nigger.

From this day forward, we shall say "moar" no moar!

Shit, if none of you worthless uninteligent fucks don't even understand or comprehend what I'm talking about, there is no point in posting any moar in this thread. I check my User CP excited to see something interesting, and this bullshit is what I get.

That's because you word it so badly.

It's just drug etiquette. I don't like letting down people when I tell them I can get something, I think everyone does. It's a poser move to brag about how much you do. The people that like to do that, usually do too much anyways and make themselves look like a self-proclaimed douchebag.

Somebody using and letting you use their drugs is a sign of acceptance in itself.

Etiquette is present in everything you do, it just doesn't seem like it would be in drugs because noone openly talks about it. Unwritten rules and stuff.

...uh, so what the fuck you trying to say?

People embellish, exaggerate, etc - boost their ego, makes their dick feel bigger. How many drugs you did last night is just another faucet for increasing your ego.

It is socially incorrect to talk about how much you did (if it was alot, if it was an average amount that is fine for some reason).

It's socially incorrect to bullshit. People don't like that. Most times, when abnormal dosage amounts are mentioned people call bullshit (whether or not you actually did that much). It's just how it is.

Drugs are taboo, but other than that I don't really think they are on some whole 'nother social level.

QFT!! I stopped taking your thread seriously when i saw this word sorry.

i talk about how much i do with my drug friends but not my other buds.

QFT!! I stopped taking your thread seriously when i saw this word sorry.

Same here. He does it all the time, thats why no one takes him seriously.

NO!, people brag all the time about the pussy they banged last night, the niggers they fought and kicked their asses, and the money they stole. This is ALL SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE to talk about!

But drugs, for some reason, are NOT!

Does that make sence?

Drugs are put on another plane then other vices.

NO!, people brag all the time about the pussy they banged last night, the niggers they fought and kicked their asses, and the money they stole. This is ALL SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE to talk about!

Or maybe, those things are just accepted in the social groups you have experienced. There are defiantly groups that would not consider bragging about fucking, bragging about racial discrimination, or bragging about theft to be 'socially acceptable' at all.

But drugs, for some reason, are NOT!

Does that make sence?

Sure! If its likely that you have not experienced the sub-cultures which are different from the ones which you have experienced.

Drugs are put on another plane then other vices.

Everything is regarded differently, depending on the people involved. One culture is different then another. They will have different opinions on what is 'normal', different 'rules'.

If you want to find out why talking about certain drug-related things is not socially acceptable in your limited expereince of society, look at the people involved in that group. Examine their character. What are their intentions? What do they care about?

Ok, well I only associate w/ drug users. Not like "popular kids" who drink and smoke weed on weekends, but put school and sex infront of drugs, and not hippies who use LSD and mushrooms on weekends but put liberalism infront of drugs.

The people I'm talking about are DRUG USERS, who put drugs infront of everything else. To these people, in my experience, it is NOT ok to brag about drugs, where it is ok to brag about sex and fighting.

When I am w/ other kids, such as hippies or the popular group, it IS ok to brag about drugs.

Does that make sence?

The people I'm talking about are DRUG USERS, who put drugs infront of everything else. To these people, in my experience, it is NOT ok to brag about drugs, where it is ok to brag about sex and fighting.

Examine their character. What are their intentions? What do they care about?

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What the fuck are you talking about NiggerPope? All of your threads sound like melodramatic pre-teen rants about society. You don't know shit about shit, faggot.
Seriously, what is the point of this thread? Kill yourself!

Dude.. no.. Go to Bad Ideas and you'll see people getting called on bullshit all the time.


Basically, people don't believe that shit because it's rare, and an attempt to be cool. not very hard to understand. This thread is kind of bragging on your part, note how you said you were a hardcore druggie. You're making like an obviously false statement about this.

terrible rant. wtf, social thoughts on drugs? more like "a noob's thoughts on peer pressure and drugs"

wtf is this about peer pressure, psychological bullshit? people rant to be cool. shit, i killed me a nagger last night, +5 for headshot BOOM! drugs are on the same plane as anything, you idiot, or else NO ONE, even &T, would talk about it. its not the fucking 1940's.

if you cant sell your kiddy friends weed, get the fuck over it, you pussy.


TLDR: Drugs are treated by the drug using community MUCH differently then other concepts are. I think this is bullshit, because it is putting drugs on a different level then other things and I believe it should be balanced. The moar we put drugs on a different level then life, the moar the prohibitionists win.

fuck that MOAR shit. and its called the GOVERNMENT and SOCIETY. they are CONSERVATIVE and dont like CHANGE. read a book...

i get what your saying.

for instance, after experimenting with a new drug, some people go around talking about how awesome it was because they want people to think their really cool for doing drugs, because, apparently, people don't sell drugs to dorks. or they want others to think about them, like "oh, i didn't know this person does drugs, i should hang out with him to find out more shit, and maybe get drugs myself." or something like "oh man, i wouldn't expect it out of someone like you, your completely different then what i thought you were like".

while others try to hide it because they feel others are catching onto the game and think its gay when people talk about drugs to get noticed/accepted, because it its, real gay. or they hide it because people who do those sorts of things are looked down upon in this society and it shows poor choice making ability.

The word is MORE you faggot!

From this day forward, we shall say "moar" no moar!

FOR FUCKS SAKE YOU NIGGER!

yoar gay.

*Sense. *More.


I kind of understand what you are talking about but I'm not sure you even do. It's simply a fact of life when considering things of that nature.


This thread fails;

try again.

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NiggerPope

i lol'ed

Wow, I don't think I have ever been quoted more times in one thread.

it really does depend on the people, my drug friends and i always talk about drugs and shit and we never think of it as bragging, and the only time i ever talk to anyone who doesnt do drugs about drugs its because i believe they should have the experience, and there are some people i would never talk to with at all, but none of this motivated by bragging, and i think society makes it hard to talk about mostly because experience, like when a serial killer gets caught everyone wants to know how he thinks and such because they want to experience what he experienced, they are just too afraid to talk about it, like a revolving circle of peer pressure and pure desire

Thoughs?


Yeah.

Are you going through the forum and looking up the most aksed questions and reposting them or something? Because I swear that what your last several threads look like to me.

PERIODS, MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU USE THEM?!

BlackPope, maybe when you get in an isolated group of people who value one thing far more than another (as Obbe mentioned), then bragging turns to bullshit because some degree of... respect? comes along with it. Respect is probably the wrong word, but I think you know what I mean. This is probably because these people are so used to their environment that anything deviating from the norm would just be... scary.

Who the fuck knows, really.

This.

Basically, people don't believe that shit because it's rare, and an attempt to be cool. not very hard to understand. This thread is kind of bragging on your part, note how you said you were a hardcore druggie. You're making like an obviously false statement about this.

I did not make any implication that I was a hardcore druggie. Like 75%+ of BLTC, drugs are moar important to me then most other things in life. If I wanted to brag I would have worded it differently.

terrible rant. wtf, social thoughts on drugs? more like "a noob's thoughts on peer pressure and drugs"

Actually, my OP had nothing to do w/ peer pressure. It had to do w/ the fact that i believe drugs are treated differently then other vices. Good try though, w/e your intentions were.


Are you going through the forum and looking up the most aksed questions and reposting them or something? Because I swear that what your last several threads look like to me.

Yes, this is entirely tru, except for the fact that this question has not been asked (that I've seen), and either has my last posts:
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2112310 Haven't seen a Tramdol thread in a LONG time.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2111997 Haven't seen a HBWR thread in a LONG time.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2111779 I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE CRITICIZE NORML EVER.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2111464 This wasn't a question thread, it was about my experiences w/ 2c-e.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2110568 I've seen this question before, but opinions change all the time and I would like moar on it for my personal benefit.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2109715 This question about POs directly helps me out.

All those links are on the latests threads started by me.


BlackPope, maybe when you get in an isolated group of people who value one thing far more than another (as Obbe mentioned), then bragging turns to bullshit because some degree of... respect? comes along with it. Respect is probably the wrong word, but I think you know what I mean. This is probably because these people are so used to their environment that anything deviating from the norm would just be... scary.

Ya, that makes sence.

PERIODS, MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU USE THEM?!

BlackPope, maybe when you get in an isolated group of people who value one thing far more than another (as Obbe mentioned), then bragging turns to bullshit because some degree of... respect? comes along with it. Respect is probably the wrong word, but I think you know what I mean. This is probably because these people are so used to their environment that anything deviating from the norm would just be... scary.

Who the fuck knows, really.

Haha. My bad.

Social thoughts? What does that come down to really, but morality? And morality is nothing more but an incredibly convenient way of keeping people in line using the idea of "good" (pleasure) and "evil" (pain).

The only "bad" part of drugs is the reliance on something external to yourself for fulfillment, enlightenment, contentment, satisfaction, or whatever.

The prohibitions can't win, aren't winning, won't win, and there isn't even a contest in the first place.

Drugs are treated differently because since they carry such a stigma (at least in some circles) and can be so high-risk that users form an instant bond and drugs become an instant way of tribal bonding. If you hang out with skiiers, skiing is put above most other activities. If you hang out with druggies....

Social thoughts? What does that come down to really, but morality? And morality is nothing more but an incredibly convenient way of keeping people in line using the idea of "good" (pleasure) and "evil" (pain).

The only "bad" part of drugs is the reliance on something external to yourself for fulfillment, enlightenment, contentment, satisfaction, or whatever.


Thanks for the lesson on ethics, everyone knows this and this is nothing new.


The prohibitions can't win, aren't winning, won't win, and there isn't even a contest in the first place.

Except for all the non violent drug users in jail.

stop bumping your own thread after single post dude.

What? Got something against violence? You're just as bad as the prohibitionists. Everyone knows violence is just as natural as loading up some black tar and slamming it into yr veins.

Haven't you realized that no one cares about your views and thoughts?
Every time you make a thread like this people flame you to hell, and it seems like you think that you have an argument for everyone else's views, when in actual fact you look like a fascist dictator.
If no one agrees with anything you say then whats the point?
Stop making these god dam threads.

Unlike you, I'm not a faggot who cares if people agree with me or not. I like to share my opinion and see what others think and feel, and see if I can relate to it and if I think its bullshit then counter it. Simple as that.

Drug user's and abuser's don't brag about drugs because they've all been there before.

For example, if someone were to say to his mate that he shot a bag of dope and nearly stopped breathing, his mate would would more than likely say "cool, lets grab a few bags and get on it!" rather than congratulate him.


Maybe i missed the point of the thread but the OP seems to be incapable of expressing his thoughts in a legible[sp] manner. :)

Stop saying "moar" it makes you sound like a moron, honestly your post was well written, but that word killed me to read it.

Unlike you, I'm not a faggot who cares if people agree with me or not. I like to share my opinion and see what others think and feel, and see if I can relate to it and if I think its bullshit then counter it. Simple as that.

No one wants to put up with your bullshit, no one wants to be your little fuckin amusement puppet.

And tell that to my fuckin history class, i rant about their stupid religious justification of historical events, no one agrees with me, but i shove it down their fucking throats.

1. It isn't unacceptable to brag about your drug usage in my social circle. You will only come off as a moron if you claim that you did something stupid, like cooked up an E pill and shot it up (since heat kills the MDA and you've ruined the drug).

2. I agree that drugs should be treated as any other vice. That's not the case, though.

3. The prohibition has won as long as we have to hide our habits. Once drugs are decriminalized, only then will we be done justice.

4. It's more, not "moar".

I did not make any implication that I was a hardcore druggie. Like 75%+ of BLTC, drugs are moar important to me then most other things in life. If I wanted to brag I would have worded it differently.


Actually, my OP had nothing to do w/ peer pressure. It had to do w/ the fact that i believe drugs are treated differently then other vices. Good try though, w/e your intentions were.


Yes, this is entirely tru, except for the fact that this question has not been asked (that I've seen), and either has my last posts:
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2112310 Haven't seen a Tramdol thread in a LONG time.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2111997 Haven't seen a HBWR thread in a LONG time.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2111779 I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE CRITICIZE NORML EVER.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2111464 This wasn't a question thread, it was about my experiences w/ 2c-e.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2110568 I've seen this question before, but opinions change all the time and I would like moar on it for my personal benefit.
http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2109715 This question about POs directly helps me out.

All those links are on the latests threads started by me.




Ya, that makes sence.

Ok fair enough.

Obviously he doesn't care. Hes been called a gay nigger and every other word in the book and he still says moar anyways. Thats why half of the replies to his posts are flames, if he quit saying moar I'm sure MORE people would post with decent replies.. well...maybe not. ;)

Aye rizzo! What's up man? Been a while...

and fuck off you nigger catholic.

I've noticed throughout my using life that drugs are treated much moar differently social wise then any other concept in life.

More* you fucking loser. I stopped reading right there because I realized that this person is a dumb nigggggggggget..

Aye rizzo! What's up man? Been a while...

and fuck off you nigger catholic.

not too much man

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