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 #1 
Old 2008-03-29, 19:51
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Default my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

prove him wrong.
 #2 
Old 2008-03-29, 19:54
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

its true
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Old 2008-03-29, 19:56
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

You prove him wrong. It's sensitive to heat and light and all kinds of shit. It's common sense. The chemical actually entering his body is most likely iso-lsd, which is inactive, or lumi-lsd, or any number of degradation products, ALL OF THEM INACTIVE.


Go find an MSDS for LSD, print it out, and make him eat it.
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Old 2008-03-29, 19:58
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

Far as I know it's true.
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Old 2008-03-29, 19:58
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bet your friend that if you put a 10 strip on a frying pan and brown the paper you can eat all of them and not trip at all... or at least hardly get any effects... as heat destroys lsd..
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Old 2008-03-29, 19:59
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

Quote:
Originally Posted by stupid noob
You prove him wrong. It's sensitive to heat and light and all kinds of shit. It's common sense. The chemical actually entering his body is most likely iso-lsd, which is inactive, or lumi-lsd, or any number of degradation products, ALL OF THEM INACTIVE.


Go find an MSDS for LSD, print it out, and make him eat it.



Thanks
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Old 2008-03-29, 20:00
ingutted ingutted is offline
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

prove him wrong.
give him a blotter paper that has nothing on it tell him its super acid and have him smoke it. see if he trips, then tell him its just paper.
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Old 2008-03-29, 20:01
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

So? My friends think all kinds of retarded shit. Iv seen niggers snort weed (seriously). Don't ask totse to prove these people wrong for you. Either ignore them and laugh at their ignorance or do the research yourself you lazy nigger.
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Old 2008-03-29, 20:17
WonkierBubble WonkierBubble is offline
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

give him a blotter paper that has nothing on it tell him its super acid and have him smoke it. see if he trips, then tell him its just paper.

Yes do this. Tell him you were actually wrong and that you researched it and it is possible, so then give him three hits of fake Super acid and have him smoke it hahaha
 #10 
Old 2008-03-29, 20:28
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

Your friend is fucking retarded which makes you stupider by association.
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Old 2008-03-29, 20:32
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

WTF?! what are you all talking about, of course you can smoke lsd, you just wont trip off it.
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Old 2008-03-29, 20:33
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Originally Posted by SomeLowLife
Your friend is fucking retarded which makes you stupider by association.


hahaha
 #13 
Old 2008-03-29, 20:43
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

Whenever I go to parties with high school kids I bring the drugs.

After we've been smoking for about two hours I yell out "Oh shit! This weed was laced...WITH ACID." Then I watch the freakouts unfold.

Oh lawd, suburban teenagers are stupid.
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Old 2008-03-29, 20:49
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Bay Area, Ca
Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

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Originally Posted by Cytosine
Whenever I go to parties with high school kids I bring the drugs.

After we've been smoking for about two hours I yell out "Oh shit! This weed was laced...WITH ACID." Then I watch the freakouts unfold.

Oh lawd, suburban teenagers are stupid.


Hahha I'm gonna try that.
 #15 
Old 2008-03-29, 20:51
mari juana mari juana is offline
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

your friend is apparently misinformed.
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Old 2008-03-29, 21:07
WonkierBubble WonkierBubble is offline
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cytosine
Whenever I go to parties with high school kids I bring the drugs.

After we've been smoking for about two hours I yell out "Oh shit! This weed was laced...WITH ACID." Then I watch the freakouts unfold.

Oh lawd, suburban teenagers are stupid.


haha what happens, were there any instances that stood out?
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Old 2008-03-29, 21:48
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haha what happens, were there any instances that stood out?

Hah, well I've heard the phrase "Oh shit guys, the walls are MOVING" so often it doesn't do much for me. But there's been a few...

Once, a bitch got so freaked that her strict Christian parents would find out she had "smoked acid" that she puked on the deck. Luckily, it wasn't MY deck, so I laughed my ass off.

Some guy (who was apparently kind of schizophrenic to begin with) started screaming shit about seeing aliens that were trying to get him. I actually tried to calm him down a bit, mostly because I didn't want to be responsible for a suicide.

And then there's the multitude of stupid fucks who you convince that you can "O.D." on acid. I once got them to drink prune juice to handle the "toxicity" of it. Probably had them shitting all day.

I'm a terrible person. :(
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Old 2008-03-29, 21:58
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^ No, dude your a great person. I envy you for that.
 #19 
Old 2008-03-29, 22:19
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At first this thread made me :(

Then it made me :D
 #20 
Old 2008-03-29, 23:02
WonkierBubble WonkierBubble is offline
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

Hah, well I've heard the phrase "Oh shit guys, the walls are MOVING" so often it doesn't do much for me. But there's been a few...

Once, a bitch got so freaked that her strict Christian parents would find out she had "smoked acid" that she puked on the deck. Luckily, it wasn't MY deck, so I laughed my ass off.

Some guy (who was apparently kind of schizophrenic to begin with) started screaming shit about seeing aliens that were trying to get him. I actually tried to calm him down a bit, mostly because I didn't want to be responsible for a suicide.

And then there's the multitude of stupid fucks who you convince that you can "O.D." on acid. I once got them to drink prune juice to handle the "toxicity" of it. Probably had them shitting all day.

I'm a terrible person. :(

You are a kickass person, that is awesome
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Old 2008-03-30, 00:15
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

Hah, well I've heard the phrase "Oh shit guys, the walls are MOVING" so often it doesn't do much for me. But there's been a few...

Once, a bitch got so freaked that her strict Christian parents would find out she had "smoked acid" that she puked on the deck. Luckily, it wasn't MY deck, so I laughed my ass off.

Some guy (who was apparently kind of schizophrenic to begin with) started screaming shit about seeing aliens that were trying to get him. I actually tried to calm him down a bit, mostly because I didn't want to be responsible for a suicide.

And then there's the multitude of stupid fucks who you convince that you can "O.D." on acid. I once got them to drink prune juice to handle the "toxicity" of it. Probably had them shitting all day.

I'm a terrible person. :(

I lol'd.

But LSD does have an LD50, it's just pretty damn high.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml

Clinical Management of Poisoning and Drug Overdose
by Haddad Winchester
page 459:
"No well-documented human deaths resulting directly from the toxic effects of LSD itself have occurred, though LSD has been implicated in accidental deaths, suicides, and homicides. LD50 (That's lethal dose in 50% of those who injest this much) determinations vary widely with species, begin 46 mg/kg in mice, 16.5 mg/kg in rats, 0.3 mg/kg in rabbits and 0.1 mg/kg in elephants. In monkeys, the LD100 is 5 mg/kg. Death in these animals is the result of respiratory failure, preceded in the rabbit by marked hyperthermia. Human data are manifestly lacking, and predictions of the average lethal dose for humans have ranged from 0.2 mg/kg to more than 1 mg/kg, administered orally.

300mg of LSD would kill a 140lb (~60kg) monkey. Not exactly the cheapest way to go.
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Old 2008-03-30, 00:41
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

I lol'd.

But LSD does have an LD50, it's just pretty damn high.

The way you put it, everything has an LD50. But since no recorded human deaths have occured from LSD, it isn't considered a drug you can OD on.
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Old 2008-03-30, 05:16
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The way you put it, everything has an LD50. But since no recorded human deaths have occured from LSD, it isn't considered a drug you can OD on.

I could have sworn some guy IV'ed it and OD'ed, or something along those lines......
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Old 2008-03-30, 07:35
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I could have sworn some guy IV'ed it and OD'ed, or something along those lines......

I've never heard of that. I have read an incredible trip report of IV'd acid here though. Don't remember who it was though...
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Old 2008-03-30, 12:51
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

I could have sworn some guy IV'ed it and OD'ed, or something along those lines......

Only an elephant has been killed by LSD.
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Old 2008-03-30, 15:24
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

I've never heard of that. I have read an incredible trip report of IV'd acid here though. Don't remember who it was though...

*waves*
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Old 2008-04-02, 22:57
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

I could have sworn some guy IV'ed it and OD'ed, or something along those lines......

Alduous Huxley had it IV'd on his death bed. But, he was already dying, so...
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Old 2008-04-02, 23:15
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

Alduous Huxley had it IV'd on his death bed. But, he was already dying, so...

What a weirdo...
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Old 2008-04-03, 00:02
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Bay Area, Ca
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An extremely high liver tissue level of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) was measured in a 34-year-old male in whom autopsy showed no anatomic cause of death. Death from LSD overdose apparently has not been previously confirmed toxicologically. The possibility that this case represents death due to toxic effect of LSD is discussed.


http://tinyurl.com/33h5zh


What a weirdo...

That's how I'd like to go out.
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Old 2008-04-03, 01:05
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

Didn't some guy fall into a bathtub full of acid and die as a result? I'm pretty sure Erowid said it...
 #31 
Old 2008-04-03, 01:45
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^^ sulphuric maybe.
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Old 2008-04-03, 02:44
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

So what happens if you IV acid? And why don't people tend to do it?
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Old 2008-04-03, 03:19
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

Your friend is 100 percent correct. You CAN smoke LSD. Hell - you could smoke kittens if you could fit them into a smoking apparatus.

However, tell him not to waste his drugs. You CAN smoke it, but you most definately WON'T get any effects.

So what happens if you IV acid? And why don't people tend to do it?

I read a trip report once where a girl IV'd LSD. Apparently she was tripping balls by the time she pulled out the needle :D
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Old 2008-04-03, 03:24
r3vVy r3vVy is offline
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I read a trip report once where a girl IV'd LSD. Apparently she was tripping balls by the time she pulled out the needle :D

Never tripped but taking out a needle + hallucinations must be pretty fucking risky.

Anyone know whether it's just a difference in the time it takes to effect you, or is the high actually meant to be a whole different experience?
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Old 2008-04-03, 03:26
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

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Originally Posted by r3vVy
So what happens if you IV acid? And why don't people tend to do it?


As I understand it, it's like an oral experience, minus the 90min coming up. Zero to peak in no time. Ask intravenous, he shoots everything :D

I'd imagine it's rare for several reasons. One, liquid acid tends to be scarcer than other forms, and extracting blotter to shoot up isn't worth the effort. Also, many of the greasy hippie types aren't big on needles.
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Old 2008-04-03, 05:08
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mah compound
Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

As I understand it, it's like an oral experience, minus the 90min coming up. Zero to peak in no time. Ask intravenous, he shoots everything :D

I'd imagine it's rare for several reasons. One, liquid acid tends to be scarcer than other forms, and extracting blotter to shoot up isn't worth the effort. Also, many of the greasy hippie types aren't big on needles.


There is no effort really, you can just cram a blotter into the back end of a syringe, draw up water, shake, and shoot. Of course there are bacteria risks and such, but you can't really get rid of that without killing the LSD unless you happen to have some 1-2 micron filter paper.
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Old 2008-04-03, 11:11
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I was to smack every idiot that tells me you can smoke LSD, the weed they have/are selling is dipped in LSD or my all time favourite "I don't get stoned on weed any more so I dip it in acid first" Mad

Im sure LSD has the most bullshit and urban legends surrounding it than any other drug and most stoners/drug users are just gullible as fuck and will believe anything they are told... There is no point arguing with them, they will always believe every bullshit things they have been told/assumed about LSD and somebody with some common sense who actually knows something about the drug wont change anything because these people are thick as shit... Mad
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Old 2008-04-03, 20:36
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Default Re: my friend thinks that you can smoke LSD

Hah, well I've heard the phrase "Oh shit guys, the walls are MOVING" so often it doesn't do much for me. But there's been a few...

Once, a bitch got so freaked that her strict Christian parents would find out she had "smoked acid" that she puked on the deck. Luckily, it wasn't MY deck, so I laughed my ass off.

Some guy (who was apparently kind of schizophrenic to begin with) started screaming shit about seeing aliens that were trying to get him. I actually tried to calm him down a bit, mostly because I didn't want to be responsible for a suicide.

And then there's the multitude of stupid fucks who you convince that you can "O.D." on acid. I once got them to drink prune juice to handle the "toxicity" of it. Probably had them shitting all day.

I'm a terrible person. :(

hahahaha
lmao
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