Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't it be even greater if you could get that and pass a drug test?

Well now you can. Sort of.

My understanding is that extacy floods the brain with serotonin and maybe dopamine and that amphetamines flood the brain with dopamine and noradrenaline, I think.

Recently I was doing some research on amino acids for myself (amino acids are building blocks of protein).

Here's two which I found interesting.

l-theanine - theanine increases brain serotonin, dopamine, GABA levels and has micromolar affinities for AMPA, Kainate and NMDA receptors.

l-tyrosine - In the adrenal gland, tyrosine is converted to levodopa by the enzyme tyrosine hydroxylase (TH).

What is levodopa?

Levodopa is used as a prodrug to increase dopamine levels for the treatment of Parkinson's disease, since it is able to cross the blood-brain barrier, whereas dopamine itself cannot.

L-DOPA is produced from the amino acid tyrosine by the enzyme tyrosine hydroxylase. It is also the precursor molecule for the catecholamine neurotransmitters dopamine and norepinephrine (noradrenaline), and the hormone epinephrine (adrenaline). Dopamine is formed by the decarboxylation of L-DOPA.

I read somewhere but can't find the link, that for l-dopa to be converted in to all the good brain chemicals it needs the good stuff such as folate, iron, vitamin Bsomething and maybe 1 or 2 other things, or maybe not. I do remember that everything it needed was found in a quality multivitamin tablet. I don't think this applies to the l-theanine, but it might.

So, there you have it, you can replicate the effects of either extacy or amphetamines by taking amino acids and vitamins! You'd wanna get the dosages right and not go too far and fuck yourself up though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theanine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrosine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levodopa (read the 'adverse' effects. It's probably the effects you are looking for.)

Oh and they both cross the blood brain barrier.

JoePedo wrote a very full, comprehensive breakdown on this. He even went as far as giving full ingredients and dosage lists. I can't find the link right now but it's basically a massive expansion on your idea. Someone else has probably bookmarked it and can give a link.

Awesome if someone can find it. Did his plan work?

The link. (http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2084457)

Thanks.

He talks about using phenylalanine not tyrosine, but tyrosine converts from phenylalanine.

Read the whole thing. And then do a search on part two of the thread.

I promise you'll learn a lot.

the first thread is titled "DL-Phenylalinine" and is NOT written by JoePedo (as far as i remember)

the 2nd part is called "DL-Phenylalinine: Part Deux" and IS written by JoePedo if i remember correctly...

Neither thread was made by joepedo, but he was the only one really keeping the threads going.

It is great. I get prescribed legal amphetamines every day.

It's pretty sweet, here's some compiled data, I think some other guy made a better compilation on like page 47 of the origional DLPA thread, but basically heres the least you need to know:

Dosage, times, way of dosing list that worked for me:


T+0:Magnisium: 250 under the tounge for 15 min then spit out
T+15: DLPA-1000mg (parachuted)
Iron-65 (parachuted)
Folic Acid: 800mg (parachuted)
Niacin-125 (parachuted)
Caffeine:16oz coffee or 2 tsp coffee grounds
3 tomato leaves (chewed, stored under tounge, 5 min later swallowed)

T+30 1 more tomato leaf
T+45 1 more tomato leaf (usually effects kick in around this point, if not 15 min later I eat another leaf)

Positive effects: 1st time is amazing, if you dose 500mg vitamin c and 1 tablet 5-htp (something like 30mg, Joe uses sunflower seed extract instead, I think because it's cheaper) it seems to improve the experience. Basically my first time I felt the most confident I've ever felt and the most adrenaline filled I've ever felt.

Negetive effects: Fucking niacin flush. People are like "oh wtf is that!", if I dose too close to when school starts and it just doesn't feel that great. Also, it can get a little speedy but I think you can remedy that with St. Johns wort but I don't know the exact dosage.

Uh, here are some other peoples ingrediant lists:

Dr. Suidides list:

Niacin - 125mg
Iron - 65mg
Magnesium - 125mg
Folic Acid - 800mg
Caffeine - 200mg
L-Tyrosine - 1200mg
1 green potato.


She Devil

L-tyrosine (500 mg)
Iron (57 mg)

In a multivitamin:

Iron 18mg
Niacin (B3) 20mg
Vitamin B6 2mg
Folic Acid (Folate) 400mcg
Magnesium 100mg

SublimeNirvana

1/2 Green Potato - rest should be spaced over the next few hours
350mg Magnesium
St. John's Wort

Wait an hour(ish)

500 mg l-pa
72 mg iron
200 mg niacin
1.6 mg folic acid (1600 ug)

+30 minutes
400 mg Caffiene


Anyways, this is how Joe explains it to work:


Tyrosine ortho-hydroxylase (TOH/T3H/TyH/other abbreviations) :
machine that makes dopamine

Iron :
fuel type 1 for T3H

Niacin :
recycles fuel type 2 for T3H

Folic acid :
produces fuel type 2 for T3H

AChE inhibitors/ACh agonists :
builds moar T3H

Magnesium :
- keeps dopamine from burning out your pleasure center. (1)
- makes you more dopamine sensitive. (2)
- makes T3H work more efficiently. (3)

Dopamine :
happy juice. Released by all drugs with abuse potential. You can only release as much as you have - but you can make as much as you want



Anyways, there are a lot of naysayers, but it also worked for a lot of people. The only think I'm still worried about/don't understand is the toxicity of the tomato leafs. The only source I found talking about them said you'd have to eat "a lot" of them for it to become toxic, so I don't know the specifics. I don't do this every day either because if seems to be only effective when I get enough sleep.

can you do this if you take fluvoxamine? also, what does the potato of its leaves do ? can you do it with out them

I actually really enjoyed taking the dose at first, it felt a mix between opiates and amphetamines. It also potentiated both. After a couple weeks it simply stopped working, I think my body got used to it.

MDMA works by reversing the 5-HT Reuptake proteins. It's only mildly an agonist. What joe was talking about was making D1 and D2 agonists.

It has also been found that injecting spontaneously hypertensive mice with theanine significantly lowered levels of 5-hydroxyindoles in the brain.(wikipedia, 1)
I wonder if this is counterintuitive?