Everyone says that if you take creatine it will not allow you to raise your creatinin levels.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3209281

Some modified versions of creatine, such as Creatine ethyl ester, degrade into creatinin in your stomache.

The normal creatine, creatine monohydrate, doesn't.

So if you want to raise those levels I'm sure taking CEE supplements would help.

This should be put on the top of the drug testing thread, I posted it here because I'm sure no one reads the end of that thread.

Meta the Mod, I'm pretty shure that if a 95lb bitch smoked chronic one time after not smoking for 30+ days, it would kick out of her system faster then 30 days? Wouldn't you agree?

When I was a chronic smoker, I could get it out in 3 weeks max.

I most certainly not agree. It's all about the speed of her metabolism - and should still be within the normal range and thus still be around 30 days.

If anything her weight and size would be against her since for such a small size, the amount she smoked would produce an amount of metabolites that would be proportionately higher in her system than some 6'10" 310 person.

I most certainly not agree. It's all about the speed of her metabolism - and should still be within the normal range and thus still be around 30 days.

If anything her weight and size would be against her since for such a small size, the amount she smoked would produce an amount of metabolites that would be proportionately higher in her system than some 6'10" 310 person.

Oh. Well I am suspicious that she is anorexic. Will this help to her advantage? Or is there some backwards thing like you just mentioned? Do you think she should tell her PO she relapsed or should she just beat her test?

I can't. I'm a girl. And if you don't have enough hair on your head, they take it from your arms and shit.

Well, that sucks your a girl.

Also, you don't shave your "arms and shit" ??

Generally most opiates are out of your system within 4 days. If you want to be sure that you will pass the test I would say abstain for 5 days in advance. That way you will pass for sure.

Oh, and btw the poppy seed bagel thing does not work anymore. They raised the ng/ml fail amount on opiates so that poppy seed bagels and such would not cause a false positive.

I got tested for my job for pre-employment and been here 8 months. No test yet, nor am I expecting one. What kind of job is it?

Ok guys I hadn't smoked in over a month untill last night when I took about 3 hits from a tiny joint. I just found out today that I have my test to get off of probation on either Monday, Tuesday, or Wednsday. What should I do to assure I pass. I also can't go out and buy anything but I have cranberry juice if that can help.

I've got a fairly serious predicament coming up. In about 24 hours from now I will have to be in court and might be receiving a cup for a UA right then and there. I've stopped smoking a week ago but that is not what I'm most worried of coming up positive for here. I use a fair amount of opiates, mostly oxycodone and heroin via injection. I dont think they'll test for oxy (I'm hoping its just the NIDA 5 test or something like that. But heroin is a different story and I am even probably going to have to try to have some tomorrow to blunt my withdrawal. I just had a shot a couple of hours ago but no heroin before that today (last 24 hrs). The day before that thought, and 5-7 days straight before that, I had shot it up 3-5 times a day.

Basically I got to know if there are any substances or anything that can cause a false negative for opiate (heroin) use in the drug test screen. I'm going to my local smoke shop tomorrow to check out what detox products they got. I looked many places for how long heroin can be detected for, and most places say something like 1-4 days, but erowid says that it might only come up for about 12 hours or slightly more with chronic use (I fall in this category).

I dont know what exactly they'll do to me if I fail but there is a possibility of possible jail time if I do end up failing. This is the first court hearing for my recent case that I got arrested for just 2 weeks ago (for being caught with syringes and multiple drugs, including weed, mushrooms, a spoon w/heroin in it, and Rush/amyl nitrite, that last ones the stupidest part) on fucking Easter Sunday. It is just a bond arraignment, which is basically something during which they review your charges an set up another court date, and refer me most likely to a parole officer for weekly UAs between now and the coming court date.

So if anyone knows any of the following more in depth it would help me out:

Heroin Detox Products/Screens
Heroin false negatives
urine additives that work for a false neg. for heroin (same as above I guess)
heroin detection times, with your source if possible (better than "Oh I heard 8 hrs")

So, can any of you guys help me w/any of this at all? I appreciate any an all help I can get w/this bulllshit drug test cuz I really dont want to show up for heroin use.

Detox products don't work. Period.

Afraid I don't know what givces a false pos.

I know of nothing you can add to urine that wouldn't show up as a doctored test.

Opiates are out of your system in about 3 days.

If you've been using and have a test the next day, your only hope is the dilution method talked about on page 1. of the old thread - linked to in this thread.

I have been wondering this for a while i read a little bit about drug testing and it didnt really answer my question.


So anyway my situation is im getting a random weekely drug test by my highschool because i was caught will a small amount of methadone. Anyway i was wondering if i were to not smoke weed monday through thrusday but then friday and saturday i smoked weed if i detoxed and pushed all the metabilodes out of my body on sunday would i be good all week?

so like when i detox to get all the metabilodes out of my body do they just stay out for a day or two till your body starts to reproduce more. Or once you push them out do they stay out till you smoke agian.

Sorry if this is a stupid question.

thanks

I have been wondering this for a while i read a little bit about drug testing and it didnt really answer my question.


So anyway my situation is im getting a random weekely drug test by my highschool because i was caught will a small amount of methadone. Anyway i was wondering if i were to not smoke weed monday through thrusday but then friday and saturday i smoked weed if i detoxed and pushed all the metabilodes out of my body on sunday would i be good all week?

so like when i detox to get all the metabilodes out of my body do they just stay out for a day or two till your body starts to reproduce more. Or once you push them out do they stay out till you smoke agian.

Detox products don't work. Period.

Sorry if this is a stupid question.

Yeah.

Unless it's a private school tell them to suck your dick.

Unless it's a private school tell them to suck your dick.

Public schools can do it too. Minors have incredibly few rights compared to adults.

And yes, it was an incredibly stupid question. But I'll answer anyway.

You smoke just one day in a month and you will have enough metabolites in your blood to fail a test. Metabolites for pot last 30 days. Period.

Public schools can do it too. Minors have incredibly few rights compared to adults.

And yes, it was an incredibly stupid question. But I'll answer anyway.

You smoke just one day in a month and you will have enough metabolites in your blood to fail a test. Metabolites for pot last 30 days. Period.

That's interesting, because on the first post of the last thread, Panthrax said this:

SUBSTANCE BLOOD SALIVA SWEAT URINE HAIR

Cannabis (single use) 2-3 days 14 hrs unknown 2-3 days up to 90 days
Cannabis (habitual use) 2 weeks 14 hrs unknown up to 12 wks up to 90 days

Surely you weren't referring to hair tests.

Does that apply to blood test time limits though (how long do oxy and h stay in the blood)?

I was under the impression that b/c of the higher cutoff level adopted in '98 of 2000ng/mL for opiates (up from 300 ng/mL, 7fold higher cutoff level to prevent false positives from poppy seeds) can make it so that H only comes up for 12-24 hrs after last use, slightly longer w/chronic use. Is this not the case at all?

Anything that can be done (besides switching the blood sample on the tray..) for a blood test similarly as the dilution method for UAs, something to eliminate traces of drug metabolites/similar toxins from even the blood?

I'd bet no luck for something like this..

That's interesting, because on the first post of the last thread, Panthrax said this:



Surely you weren't referring to hair tests.


No, I was refering only to piss tests.

A hair test will show drug use if you've done drugs as long as that hair is there.

No, I was refering only to piss tests.

A hair test will show drug use if you've done drugs as long as that hair is there.

You said that metabolites for marijuana last for 30 days; no exception. Then panthrax said that a one time use of marijuana will not leave any metabolites (for a piss test) after 4 days. Do you see the contradiction or do you just formulate a general response to keywords you find in others' posts?

Has anyone here tried additives or know if they work; specifically, I read somewhere that powdered bleach added to a piss sample can basically kill the test and pass you. Anyone know?

Also, a bit of free advice: theres this stuff called Goldenseal, its a little herbal supplement that tastes like dandelions and its pretty gross but it can clean weed out of your system like no other. A lot of places will tell you its bullshit but I'm telling you firsthand, that drinking 2 dropper-fulls 3 times in a day after a good month of mild/moderate chronic smoking cleared me up for a test the next day.

ok, question

i got a little known clean pee pee. collected from yours truly.

how long will it be viable, in other words legit for a test before it goes stale?

i plan on keeping it in a small bottle in my armpit (to keep it warm) before the test.

i guess logically it would last longer in the fridge, but i cant justify putting piss anywhere near where i store my delicious ice cream

I don't think piss can go "stale" because its sterile, my friend keeps 3 or 4 bottles of his own clean piss behind his heater in his bathroom and he always passes with them. Just make sure you keep it warm before the test.

How long does a Suboxone/high buprenorphine dose show up on urine tests, and blood tests if that information is around?

it can.

I go to Fork Union Military Academy. They've been doing drug tests there for a while now. They were doing hair and piss but now they've slowed down to just piss. I don't know what kind of test they use but i do know that they send there samples out and they come back within 3 days. I avent been able to smoke or anything for a long ass time and there are mad shrooms around right now. I know on erowid that on extensive tests mushies can show up for 1-3 days. Does any one know if these tests would be likely to test for this? If i ate a 1/16th on saturday and got tested on monday(its random so ime just being cautious) would that qualify for the 3 days or would that be Tuesday? Any advice or facts would be greatly appreciated. I really wouldn't want to get kiked out and waste 30 grand. Thanx

No, they won't show up, but if 30 grand is really on the line, I wouldn't risk it personally. You can always buy them now, preserve, and do them later.

No, they won't show up, but if 30 grand is really on the line, I wouldn't risk it personally. You can always buy them now, preserve, and do them later.


Couldn't have said it better myself.

Thnkyou, you made me feel alot better about doing it , but you also made me think twice about it too. I really think i should wait but ive been dieing to trip for 3+ months. If you all are pretty sure it wouldn't show, than ime probably going to go for it. Its random so i probably wont get picked and if i do they usualy arent untill tuesday anyways. But thanks for your imput.

Can you share why you think they wouldent show or where you found this?

Because a test for mushrooms is not part of either the standard or the extended tests that most places use.

Ok, heres the scenario. HAve been indulging in Benzo's while on MMT. Do not want to fuck up the progress in the program, but do need to blow off some steam every once in awhile (once every other week or so with downers).

Monday morning take 0.25mg Xanax. Several hours later take 1mg Klonopin. Several hours later take 1mg Xanax. Soon thereafter taking 10mg Ambien IR, soon considering taking a Roche white V-cut 2mg Valium. Definitly being urine test 7 days from today (the day of indulgence). Even after the 1.25mg Xanax, 1mg Klonopin, 10mg Zolpidem and 2mg Valium taken on a Monday evening-night, should he be ok on a urine screen given the following Monday morning, a urine screen that tests for NIDA-5 plus Benzodiazepines, Oxycodone, MDMA, Methamphetamine, Methadone and Quinine. If no other substances against clinic regulations are consumed between now (Monday night) and the test (this next upcoming Monday morning) do you think he should pass? Can anyone help me determine the math involved in the urine screen cutoff levels (showing a negative result via half-life times and elimination speed of these particular drugs from the body).

Scared buyt confident. Will purchase an OTC at home 12 panel drug test to make sure he's going in the clinic to pass this test.

The only drug that has me worried in Diazepam, as it has a longer half life than the other short acting Benzo's.

Thanks.

Would someone care to explain the validity of this article on erowid?
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=37341
Apparently if you are already clean then smoke pot once you can be clean in 48 hours. I smoked this weekend 2 nights in a row. I passed a drug test before I smoked the first day. I'm going to drug test myself in a couple days to see if its really out of your system that fast. Cause in this thread all you hear is "30 days" but thats if you're a regular user. So anyone know how true that really is?

To the best of my knowledge, it is 30 days period.

How can you trust a study that had all of one test subject?

Well I'll find out in a few days if it is 30 days period. I'm gonna give myself an at home test toward the end of the week an I'll post the results.

I put this in a thread but it got locked:

I have several questions that require answers that will help to shape my immediate future for the next year or so.

I got on informal probation a week or two ago. The crime I committed wasn't at all drug related although it was a felony. How often do you think I will be drug tested?

Naturally, I'm not smoking weed for the next six months. But I drink frequently and last saturday I had my first shroom experience. I'm seventeen by the way. When they drug test me do they have seperate tests for pot and alcohol? Are/can they even test me for alcohol really? I know they have the urine test that will help determine if I drank in the last four days but will they test me?

On to the mushrooms; do shrooms leave any trace that can be detected? I think I will keep doing shrooms unless someone can convince me not to. They don't have any long term negative side effects, right? And they can't be tested for, right? So it seems like the perfect drug as long as I don't hang around cliffsides while tripping. Will doing shrooms enough make me a little retarded or lower my self-esteem or anything like that? Am I putting my mind at risk? Why shouldn't I do mushrooms regularly (every other week)?

It got locked because it didn't belong in its own thread.

It is definitely not 30 days if you have been clean for a while. I can like 80% assure you that if you have not smoked for months, and have an average metabolism and smoke a bowl, you will be clean in about 5 days. I know this from personal experience, people I know, and a guy I know who went to school for pharmokinetics (I think that's what it's called) has backed me up on this. However, if you smoke 2 days in a row then that doesn't count as a one time use, so it will most likely be in your system longer.

I forgot that I came in this thread with a question in mind... This is stats on the oxy panel I get tested with: http://www.medicaldisposables.us/home.php?cat=33. If I take 20mg of hydrocodone on thursday night, do you guys think it will set this test off on monday? I can't really find a definitive time frame for how long hydrocodone stays in your system. I know it's out in about 3-4 days but here's what I'm thinking: The half-life of hydrocodone is 3.8 hours, after which it becomes hydromorphone, so obviously this would leave a 20mg dose of hydrocodone metabolised easily within 48 hours. But then the hydromorphone can still be detected. The hydromorphone cutoff on this panel is really high though so about how long do you guys think I have before I can pass this specific panel after taking 20mg of hydrocodone?

On to the mushrooms; do shrooms leave any trace that can be detected? I think I will keep doing shrooms unless someone can convince me not to. They don't have any long term negative side effects, right? And they can't be tested for, right? So it seems like the perfect drug as long as I don't hang around cliffsides while tripping. Will doing shrooms enough make me a little retarded or lower my self-esteem or anything like that? Am I putting my mind at risk? Why shouldn't I do mushrooms regularly (every other week)?

I can answer this; but little interest in alcohol so you'd have to do some reading yourself in the first thread.

No, no long term dangers to mushrooms. But use them sparingly (once a week should be more than enough, so you have some leeway); many people have reported a complete dropping off of the experience (not just a diminishing like a tolerance, but complete collapse where every trip is a bad one regardless of how long ago your previous one was) with very frequent use. As long as you don't go doing stupid shit like staying near dangerous things like cliffs, weapons, bridges, and the like, you should be fine. Your probation test will almost certainly NOT test for mushrooms, so go ahead and enjoy them. There are no mental detriments, but nausea is a common side effect, and bad trips can be downright terrifying. Don't shroom if you have a history of mental illness or are just not in the right mindset for it (shrooms are the quintessential set and setting hallucinogen). As with any drug, your outlook on life may be changed, but there is so much variability in that (though most results are positive) that it's not really a reason not to take them. All* clinical studies on psilocin have indicated that there were no detrimental effects to any of the participants and long-term studies indicated many positive results, especially in spiritual growth. Don't eat infected or rotten mushrooms (they tend to smell like ammonia), and stay away from amanitas (unless you're into that, in which case research it beforehand). Most importantly, go learn about what you're putting in your body, though this should get you through most trips. Oh, and DO NOT shroom while on MAOIs until you are very experienced with both chemicals--that means both research and firsthand experiences.

*as always, take anything you read online with a crystal of sodium chloride

http://www.detoxforless.com/drug-testing-information/detection-times.html

That website has an extensive chart with how long drugs are detectable for. They also ship stuff to cheat with the second you order and guarentee next day delivery.

Hydrodocone is not tested for in the standard nor the extended tests.

Meta wouldn't it show up as an opiate though on the standard tests?

No, because it doesn't break down into anything the test looks for.

Looking agai at Erowid, I see it say that it is sometimestested for in the extended test [See: http://www.erowid.org/pharms/hydrocodone/hydrocodone_testing.shtml]

Yea but if you click that link you'll see that hydrocodone is detectable on the test I get. It's a standard NIDA 5 but it also has oxy's and benzos added onto it. That oxy panel is one of the test I get and it can detect hydrocodone at 1250 ng/ml and hydromorphone at 12,500 ng/ml. I'm not really worried about it I've just decided to add water to it since it's just a dip test without even a temperature check.

The Standard test - ie: the one with 5 - does not test for hydrocodone, the extended one - the one with 7, which is what you must be dealing with - does sometimes. As I said.

i just got a job and there going to call me this wednsday , he said i will be doing frequent drug tests once a month, i think i have to give one this wednsday, i smoked some weed like a week ago, couple of bowls, am i just to drink tons of water? i have been drinking lots of water since friday because of a cold i have, i will be doing a urine test, im 6'6 and weight about 290

So this past month or so I have'nt smoked any bud.This week I've probably smoked less than a nickelbag.

I only wiegh 113, have like 0% body fat and have a real fast metabolism.How long do you think till I'm clean?

I don't know why people keep asking for different weights and shit. The answer is always going to be: 30 days, giver or take a couple.

A couple weeks ago I did some LSD for the first time and for two days eating never crossed my mind, so I never did it (no one suggested that I eat lol, I was just never hungry). Before this I had been smoking at least like every 3 days for at least a month, and about once or twice a week before that for a long time.

I went to my class one morning and I passed out while taking notes (presumably from low blood sugar from not eating, all the symptoms were there, nausea, feeling lightheaded, shaking when I awoke etc.). I've never experienced anything like that and have been fine since but ever since that episode I haven't smoked or done anything (and I feel pretty fucking good lol). When I awoke from my unconscious state, the teacher canceled class and made me stay there for someone from my house to come pick me up. Eventually I ended up having to get a ride from my mom to go get my car from school, so of course I had to tell her I passed out (she does not know of my substance abuse habits, however). Everyone involved, including me, thinks it would probably be a good idea for me to go get checked out at the doctor, in case there may be something more serious going on.

Does anyone know what kind of tests they could perform during this? And in those tests will they run the NIDA-5 check? I know they won't test for LSD, and I know it's been less than 30 days, but do you guys think they would be more likely to run a blood/urine test or what???

Last time I went for a checkup they did both, but if I could potentially have a blood related condition does anyone know what they would possibly do?

I'm probably over-thinking this a lot, as I tend to do, but this seems like an odd situation and I can't find anything on it. I'm just trying to stay in the clear.

Even if they take what ever body fluids they may take, unless they are specifically looking for drug use, they won't test for drugs. And testing for drugs isn't part of a normal physical. Only if they suspect drug use has something to do with your complaint, they won't look.

I have a question on the time line of employment tests vs others. I understand that the number is 30 days but I have to ask whether there would be significant differences the cutoff between an employment test and, say, a probation one. Would such differences, if any exist, change the abstinence time necessary to past one test as opposed to the others?

Edit: The way I understand it is that since employers want to save money they probably use cheap wal-greens type of test rather than sending the sample to the lab and pay for MS/GC. So it would also be easier to beat due to the lack of tests for creatinine, specific gravity etc. I also assume it would have a higher cutoff so if metabolites are decaying exponentially this can drastically shorten the wait time. If I am wrong please correct me.

No. It's true that one is easier to fool by far, but that doesn't change the fact that the cutoff rates for the two tests are pretty much the same.

I don't think it metabolizes exponentially - are you sure you used the right word?

Either way, Different tests do have different cutroff levels, but that has nothing to do with the cheapness of the test. But cheapness does play in being easier to beat.

I was talking about exponential decay as in Ce^-tc where C and c are constants. What I am talking about is that more metabolites wash out of your system (or get broken down) for the first couple days than the last couple days. For example I assume the drop in the urine concentration level of metabolites over the first three days is very noticeable while the drop in the last three days (28-30) is insignificant. This would mean that even a small cutoff difference can cause the actual waiting times to vary by weeks.

Does DMT, say from smoking the root bark of Illinois bundleflower, show up on drug tests? And if so how long does it take for it to work through your system so you would be clean?

Generally most opiates are out of your system within 4 days. If you want to be sure that you will pass the test I would say abstain for 5 days in advance. That way you will pass for sure.

Oh, and btw the poppy seed bagel thing does not work anymore. They raised the ng/ml fail amount on opiates so that poppy seed bagels and such would not cause a false positive.

the thing about how they raised the cutoff... is 2000 ng/ml a reliable US-wide standard now? I'm going to be taking my UA to work for the city in 7-9 days. I've read everything for opium from 24-48 hours, up to 4-10 days. Can anyone testify regarding an actual occasion where they'd been using opium, and how recently before their test they used and still passed? I picked up some green tea and frosted mini wheats... If I'm putting some of that in my body each day, and keeping consistantly hydrated, can I count on closer to 2-3 days? Are there any other good tactics to use? I'm pretty sure I fall under the "light" use category in terms of dosage. Does that give me much advantage?

The only reason I'm playing on the edge and trying to cut it close is I'm studying for 2 exams this week, and if I'm hunched over a desk for more than 8 hours straight and I'm not mellowed out I just wanna scream and rip my eyeballs out lol.

Absolutely not. Were you seriously successful in smoking non-crystallized DMT? This sounds VERY hard to believe.

No I only just found out that it occurs naturally in a plant that grows around where I live. It needs about 100 days after the last frost before it grows, so ill have to wait awhile to try it, but I will let you know how it goes.

You won't get any effects from just ingesting it; your best bet is an extraction; probably an STB, but if you have enough product to play around with (lucky bastard ) try acidifying it first--you will not get high smoking the roots straight up (I don't know, is smoking roots fun?) because many have tried it with MHRB (far higher DMT concentration) and received no effects; even on MAOIs.

The root bark of this North American perennial shrub [your Illinois grass] contains 0.34% DMT and 0.11% N-methyltryptamine

The roots of M. hostilis [...] contain 0.57% DMT

Source: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/faqs/faqs_tryptamine.shtml

So make sure that when you do dose (with your extracted DMT) you take 25% above the normal dose because some of it will invariably be monomethyltryptamine, which has no effects.

Extraction teks:
http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=311
By far the best according to others' testimony; I believe erowid has an expanded version with pics, but I CBA. If you get successful yields with this, search around on that site and on erowid for other extractions that are longer but (supposedly on ocassion) produce better results.

Long story short: You'd be wasting your time without an extraction. If this helps you, send me some roots too. :(:D

the thing about how they raised the cutoff... is 2000 ng/ml a reliable US-wide standard now? I'm going to be taking my UA to work for the city in 7-9 days. I've read everything for opium from 24-48 hours, up to 4-10 days. Can anyone testify regarding an actual occasion where they'd been using opium, and how recently before their test they used and still passed? I picked up some green tea and frosted mini wheats... If I'm putting some of that in my body each day, and keeping consistantly hydrated, can I count on closer to 2-3 days? Are there any other good tactics to use? I'm pretty sure I fall under the "light" use category in terms of dosage. Does that give me much advantage?

The only reason I'm playing on the edge and trying to cut it close is I'm studying for 2 exams this week, and if I'm hunched over a desk for more than 8 hours straight and I'm not mellowed out I just wanna scream and rip my eyeballs out lol.

Although I'm not 100% sure because I have no first-hand experience with opium and drug testing, personally I wouldn't risk giving myself any less time than 3-4 days. As an alternative to opium you could use a synthetic opiate that won't be tested for on the NIDA-5 like oxycodone. Unless you have a problem with pills that would be my suggestion. If you don't want to take pills though, like I said I would at least wait 3-4 days. Oh and the 2000 ng/ml detection level is pretty standard for job-related testing.

Long story short: You'd be wasting your time without an extraction. If this helps you, send me some roots too. :(:D

K, thanks for the info, your profile says your from utah, the same plant grows in the very southwestern county http://plants.usda.gov/java/county?state_name=Utah&statefips=49&symbol=DEIL

K, thanks for the info, your profile says your from utah, the same plant grows in the very southwestern county http://plants.usda.gov/java/county?state_name=Utah&statefips=49&symbol=DEIL

I'm in the north; believe me I've looked for DMT-containing plants. A road trip is not plausible either.

Although I'm not 100% sure because I have no first-hand experience with opium and drug testing, personally I wouldn't risk giving myself any less time than 3-4 days. As an alternative to opium you could use a synthetic opiate that won't be tested for on the NIDA-5 like oxycodone. Unless you have a problem with pills that would be my suggestion. If you don't want to take pills though, like I said I would at least wait 3-4 days. Oh and the 2000 ng/ml detection level is pretty standard for job-related testing.

I've read about that a couple other places to... the NIDA-5 thing. I do have access to hydrocodone from a friend that I'd be totally down with taking. Is there any way to find out if its going to be included in the test, cause I've read some places use tests that get better coverage of drugs abused in america (synthetic opiates)? If I call the facility (without identifying myself) that I'll be taking the UA at and flat out ask them what the specific test they use is, would they give me the information? Should I have some story like I'm doing a report for a class and need statistics and kinda blend it in with other questions?

I've read about that a couple other places to... the NIDA-5 thing. I do have access to hydrocodone from a friend that I'd be totally down with taking. Is there any way to find out if its going to be included in the test, cause I've read some places use tests that get better coverage of drugs abused in america (synthetic opiates)? If I call the facility (without identifying myself) that I'll be taking the UA at and flat out ask them what the specific test they use is, would they give me the information? Should I have some story like I'm doing a report for a class and need statistics and kinda blend it in with other questions?

It's actually a pretty sweet plan there. If you call them and say "Hello, my name is Fake McNamer and I am doing research at/for the University of Local College (not H.S.) on the efficacy of drug testing" you are quite likely to get the info. Remember to give details (fake ones obv) such as the purpose of the research, your research team. You may even try to ask questions that are not relevant to you but may appear to be relevant to the research you are "doing" as to divert suspicion. You should be able to now ask questions about the types of test they use, the detection times, measures against false positives (in order to divert suspicion from the next questions), measures against false negatives (a.k.a. preventing cheating on drug tests). If you do this properly you should be able to find out what test you are taking and how to beat it.

My PO will dipstick me tomarro or the next day. I smoked weed all day today. How long will these last? This is like some hard coar test not the shitty home tests, they take your spit to a lab and analyze it. Any way to beat these? A small baloon loaded with my girlfriends spit or some water?

edit- He didn't test me today but will in the next few days

I've read about that a couple other places to... the NIDA-5 thing. I do have access to hydrocodone from a friend that I'd be totally down with taking. Is there any way to find out if its going to be included in the test, cause I've read some places use tests that get better coverage of drugs abused in america (synthetic opiates)? If I call the facility (without identifying myself) that I'll be taking the UA at and flat out ask them what the specific test they use is, would they give me the information? Should I have some story like I'm doing a report for a class and need statistics and kinda blend it in with other questions?


Hydrocodone is not covered in the NIDA-5.

okay well
im 150 lbs and 6'2"
pretty skinny
smoked almost every day for a few months
drug test in 6 days
how can i do it?

Read the damn thread and find out. Sheesh!

Even though meta touts dilution as the single most effective way to pass a drug test there is little concrete info out there how to pass the adulteration/dilution test so I'd like to help you guys with this.

There are 5 things you need to worry about
Creatinine, Color, Temperature, pH and Density/specific gravity.

Creatinine:
Creatinine is the natural metabolite of creatine. The problem is that only a tiny amount (iirc ~1%) of creatine is naturally converted into creatinine which means that there is no point in trying to take creatine before the test. To beat this you can do one of two things. You can start taking creatine regularly A LONG TIME before the test. Taking creatine the day before the test will not do anything but if you take creatine regularly over a long period of time you will ultimately raise your creatinine levels. This is more of a prevention strategy rather than an action one. If you are short on time then you can try to order pure creatinine from a chemical supplier and add it directly to the sample. The cutoff rate is 2mg/dL so for 8 fl oz you would need about 4-5 mg. If you don't have a mg scale you can dissolve 1g in 0.2 L, homogenize and then draw 1 mL (1 cc) using a syringe or an eyedropper. You now have a 5mg solution. Eating red meat or such will not significantly raise your creatine or creatinine levels compared to taking performance creatine.

Oh and the cutoff might be 5mg/dL in some places so change the math accordingly.

Color
If you dilute your sample it will look clear so you need to make sure it looks normal. Yellow 5 and other food colorings should be able to do the job. Usually colorings are added in miniscule amounts for desired effect so there is no reason why it would throw off a pH test or specific gravity. The B complex gives it a neon-green-yellow color which is suspicious.

Temperature
If you dilute by drinking then don't worry, if you directly dilute the sample then keep the water or fake/clean urine in a ziplock bag taped to your stomach. Make sure it is warm enough BEFORE you go to your testing site as it might take some time to heat up to near-body temperatures.

pH
This exists because dipshits added draino and bleach to their samples. Don't do stupid shit and you are fine.

Specific gravity
Your sample needs to have a specific gravity of 1.003 to 1.030 or 1.003 to 1.030 grams per mL. This is determined by solutes in the urine such as salts and protein so consider adding salt to a diluted sample. As far as I know they don't test for "saltiness" so it doesn't matter how much you go overboard, just don't exceed 1.030 g/mL

I need to know if it will be ok to take 4 vicodin tomorrow. I'm on probation and just met my PO a few days ago. He drug tested me (used a dip-stick) on the spot and i came up for opiates, amphetamines, and there was a very faint line for cannabis.

I told him that I was on adderall, and that i had taken some of my parent's fiorinal (w/ codeine) a few days ago. I was taking 4 - 6 fiorinal a day for about a month straight, maybe a bit less. I hadn't taken any fiorinal for 6 days and i came up positive for opiates.

Now I'm wondering if I got a positive for opiates because of the fiorinal, or possibly because of the 4 vicodin i had taken that morning.

Can anyone help me out?

Dude, between me and Panny, we covered all but perhaps the specific gravity. The creatinine issue in particular has had a lot of coverage.

90% sure it was the fiorinal. Hydrocodone will not trigger a positive for opiates under normal circumstances.

Dude, between me and Panny, we covered all but perhaps the specific gravity. The creatinine issue in particular has had a lot of coverage.

Just trying to make it easier for people by summarizing it up in one statement rather than having people read through pages of archives

Will it be easy to dilute sporadic marijuana use 17 days after the last use? Thats when I think I'm gonna have my first probation drug test? I'm skinny high metabolism I seriously don't think I have anything to worry about. It was only a few times not everyday all day type of thing. Like once a day for 2 days in a row, then quit for a week, then did it again for a couple days. I also have been exercising and plan to exercise more.

Well just going in and giving a sample you won't pass. But it should be quite easy to dilute that.

Well just going in and giving a sample you won't pass. But it should be quite easy to dilute that.

Well does it have to be straight clear? Or would a little yellow in the piss be ok since I barely really did it? Because if I go in pissing straight clear piss they might reject it.

The easiest thing for you to do is to go to a drug store and get your own THC drug test. If you fail it, you can get another one and experiment with dilution and see if dilution leads you in the clear. Although the cutoff rates might be different they should be pretty damn close

Well does it have to be straight clear? Or would a little yellow in the piss be ok since I barely really did it? Because if I go in pissing straight clear piss they might reject it.


That's why you take the B-Complex, to make your piss yellow. You don't want to give a clear piss.

I went to jail for 30 days for a violation of probation (failed drug test for marijuana.)

For about 40-45 days I was clean, but last Friday I smoked a bowl of some good bud while I was drunk and taking valium. I have a script for the valium so I'm good on that, but I had to take a drug test today, which was only 3 days since I smoked.

I tried to explain to the PO that it hasn't been long enough for the THC to pass from my system since before I went to jail, but she wouldn't budge and I had to take the test anyway.

Since I drank beer and puked after I smoked, because I hadn't eaten all day, is there any chance that I'll pass this drug test?

I also ate alot the day after and I'm hoping that would have absorbed most of the THC so keep it from being re-released back into my system.


I probably don't make much sense, but I'm scared as fuck because I've been dealing with so much drama lately and this is the last thing I need hanging over my head, because I've reached the snapping point and I'm afraid if I fail this drug screen it'll push me too far for me to cope with.

I'm 5'6 and weigh about 212lbs. I've been gaining wieght lately, and I'm hoping that's aborbed enough of the THC for me to pass this test.

Nope puking or anything won't make a difference. It was a bad idea to smoke man. Possibly the one time use thing could make it clear out of your system easier but I doubt it. Best way to handle this problem would be drink a gallon of water before your test, since that small amount of THC could be possible to dilute.

Test is done and over.

I drank a few glasses and some cokes before the test but that was this morning and the test was in the afternoon. I don't think I pissed that much in between, but it was yeller so I don't know what to expect.

Ok first you double posted. Second you most likely failed your drug test if your piss was yellow. You should have drank more water.

Yeah, you pretty much screwed, sorry.

Meta I have disproven your "30 days to get clean from pot" theory. A mere 16 DAYS after I last got high I was able to pass a home drug test for THC. I drug tested myself, did not dilute my piss at all, pissed directly into the container a smelly yellow piss and dipped the test. Then low and behold I PASSED! Proof right there it doesn't take 30 days to get clean.

well i couldnt find it on here for the first 4-5pages,so im posting my question without further lookin

alright im in the army[well the delayed entry program at least] and thye moved my ship date up to next week,well i had smoked last week cause they werent suppsoed to ship me off to aug 9th,and ive used 3 cleaners and they do in fact not work,but my systems almost clear,ive been bying test kits to see how close i am,and im almost there,now my aunt told me to take niacin500mgs ,aprroximately 6 of these a day she said and with 2 vit b complex pilss in addition to this she said drink about a gallon to a gallon and ahalf or more a day,

now my question is,since im so close will this method work?and will i not overdose on the 3000mg of niacin a day she told me to take,she said as long as i drank alot of water i wouldnt-so yea,what do i do,or should do,the test kit shows 1 bar and half of another one clearly purple,but the rest is apparent but faded[the testing kit for thc that is,2 clear bars means your thc free

now my question is,since im so close will this method work?and will i not overdose on the 3000mg of niacin a day she told me to take,she said as long as i drank alot of water i wouldnt-so yea,what do i do,or should do,the test kit shows 1 bar and half of another one clearly purple,but the rest is apparent but faded[the testing kit for thc that is,2 clear bars means your thc free

No, niacin doesn't work. Niacin flushes feel terrible and more than a few kids have died trying to take niacin to clear their systems. Don't do it.

The hell you did. I never claimed that that applied for everybody. In all things like this there will always be people who are exceptions. And who knows, maybe you had a lot of liquid naturally. I don't know.

If I were someone at random reading this thread to help me pass an important test, I sure wouldn't bet my future on your post.

I mean, that's great that it worked this time, but are you sure you want to bet your future if someday you have an important test?

Not that I really give a fuck what you do...

The hell you did. I never claimed that that applied for everybody. In all things like this there will always be people who are exceptions. And who knows, maybe you had a lot of liquid naturally. I don't know.

If I were someone at random reading this thread to help me pass an important test, I sure wouldn't bet my future on your post.

I mean, that's great that it worked this time, but are you sure you want to bet your future if someday you have an important test?

Not that I really give a fuck what you do...

Lol I think being skinny/high metabolism makes a lot more of a difference than you say. Also it being occasional use also helps too. I didn't have a lot of liquid naturally either it was my 2nd piss of the day I barely drank anything it was some smello yellow.

Lol I think being skinny/high metabolism makes a lot more of a difference than you say. Also it being occasional use also helps too. I didn't have a lot of liquid naturally either it was my 2nd piss of the day I barely drank anything it was some smello yellow.


It makes a difference, too, how much THC you've had before you stopped. If you were more or less clean before you got high that day and then took a test after 16 days, it is not the same as if you have been smoking 3 joints a say for a year then stop and take a test 16 days later.

lol, dude. Meta just uses 30 days because that insures 100% that you will be clean from a test no matter how long you have been smoking or how much. I passed a drug test 4 days after I smoked, but all I did was smoke out of a vaporizer after not smoking for like 3 months. I didn't even try to pass the test, I didn't do anything different from my normal everyday routine.

Hey i think i've just discovered something useful....
http://tinyurl.com/6qd7gk
^It's an article relating alcohol to increased creatinine levels

Would this not mean that, if by diluting your test you lowered your creatinine levels, you could raise them practically instantaneously by drinking a rather small amount of alcohol?

btw i'm not in any rush i just noticed my creatinine levels were rather high after taking an extend test.

This study shows that one episode of drinking 200 ml of 40 percent alcohol does cause a normal ACCR (3 33 ± 1.26%) to rise to abnormal levels

sry if this has already been discovered didn't take the time to read the entire thread

sry if this has already been discovered didn't take the time to read the entire thread


Nope, it's news to me.

Lol at people who think smoking a joint > incarceration.

In some places - even some in the US - it still is.

In some places - even some in the US - it still is.

Ah...I see. Correction would be "smoking a joint is WORTH incarceration".

ok so i smoked alot on sunday and i found out today that i have a drug test tommorow around 2:30 is there anything i can do to ensure i will pass???

will drinking certo work??

Those drinks don't do shit is what Meta will say. Just drink a fuck ton of water is your only hope.

TOTSE is not your personal help desk, read the damn thread.

Do every drug on the test and hope that the PO/employer reads the test backwards. :D

You're fucked.

how long will urine stay fresh if its at room temperature and it has already been heated up to 100+ degrees...will putting it in the fridge keep it more fresh or has the heat already made it bad??

last dumb question i promise

Um well it starts smelling rank as fuck after like 1 day lol.....you just need fresh piss man. The fridge will slow it down and make it not so shitty.....but then again just get fresh piss

mmmk so i got my drug test moved to today got my friend to pee for me, put it in a ballon hid it in my pants and now its all good =)

thank you to those who tried to help me out even though some made it clear that my questions were stupid, i was in a slight panic and had no clue what to do, sorry, it happens.

how long will urine stay fresh if its at room temperature and it has already been heated up to 100+ degrees...will putting it in the fridge keep it more fresh or has the heat already made it bad??

The fridge will usually keep it fairly well for a week or so but it starts to lose its flavor the longer its in there. If you drink it warm it tastes a lot better IMO.

I've read the whole thread, but I have a situation that isn't entirely addressed by the previous 13 pages.

I have a drug test in 3 days. It's for a kitchen job at an old folks' home (Emeritus is a national chain as well - if anybody happens to have any specific info on their tests). They asked me to come to the retirement home itself for the test - not a lab or hospital (but I guess there's probably medical staff there, 'cause it's an old folks' home. but a lab? i dunno).

Anyway, I have no idea whether or not I'll pass, based on my spotty drug usage in the past month.
In summary:
a keybump of coke - 4 weeks ago
approx. 120mg of Adderall over the course of 2 weeks - 3&4 weeks ago
smoked weed heavily 4 weeks ago, then once over 2 weeks, then heavily for the past week (I've also been a heavy, habitual toker for about a year)

Will dilution + B12/niacin save me? Or should I smuggle in someone else's clean pee?
I have a close male friend who will donate some clean piss to this cause, but I don't know if they test samples for male/female hormones/metabolites. What's the best way to smuggle foreign pee in? I was thinking a balloon, taped to my thigh.

I'm also about to go to Walgreen's and buy an at-home test. Will edit with results as soon as I have them.

EDIT: okay, the home test says I'm clean for amphetamines and cocaine, but not THC. advice?

Halp, please!

I'm going to go see my PO in half an hour (intensive probation).

If I smoke a joint on the way there do you think I can pass if I bring a bottle of water with me and drink that while I'm blazing? I did some coke this morning too (few g's), you think I might come up dirty?

Can I take some niacin??

Totally. Go for it.

well idk if ill be able to dilute, idk if theyll be standing there next to me. but today ive already drank 1 gallon of water. so if i drink like 10+ gallons of water between now and then, do you think ill be fine? and i do have a VERY fast metabolisim. and i exercise and sweat alot. so between the sweating and the 10+ gallons of water, do you think ill be fine? cuz i know i can get 60+ mgs of oxy out of my system in a little over 24 hrs. ive tried, and succeded

edit: and it will test for benzos. its a DOD military test
edit2: if i postpone the test until tuesday between 6am and 11am do you think ill be fine, as long as i drink a shit ton of water, and piss like 10+ times a day

Drinking a ton of water several days before the test is not needed, won't help and can be dangerous.

Just start the night before and keep going. You aren't flushing your system, you're diluting the piss.

i thought drinking a bunch of water and pissing alot would flush my system. meta, do you think ill be fine by 6am - 11am on monday?

No, you can't flush your system. It will metabolize at a certain rate and you can't really change that by enough to matter.

But it sounds like you should be able to dilute just fine since there won't be much that needs to be masked, so to speak.

Don't forget the big dose of B-Complex to make your piss yellow - clear piss raises a red flag and can even be reason to flunk you, depending the testing people.

im 100% broke. i dont have the money to go out and buy any vitamin B6. ive used this drink before 'valve detox suppliment' and ive used it to pass dipstick tests. its 100% natural and they cant test for it. it actually has a 300% money back guarantee. do you think it would work on a DOD drug test? i know my mom would front me the money for it. i mean with as fast as a metabolism that i have and i only took 2mg, do you think i could be fine just on my own?

The only reason those things work is because they tell you to drink a lot of water. In other words they are a rip off.

Besides, if you can afford that shit you can afford Vitamin B. Just buy a couple of those $1`a pack one day supply of vitamins you see at gas stations and 7-11.

it really didnt have me drink alot of water. and i took a xanax bar the morning of my test. drank that drink 2 hours before i had to take the urinalysis, with a light breakfast, drank a little water, pissed one time before i went to my drug screening. and then pissed when i got there. and i passed, even tho i took the xanny the same morning of the test, and even the dipstick tests have 3 slots they put the pee in to check for drug test passing dirnks, and it didnt show up. idk how it works, but it does....

but i do appreciate all the help meta. good to see were gettin along! its been while.

but i do appreciate all the help meta. good to see were gettin along! its been while.


We didn't get along before?

Heres a question for people who have been on probation for weed. If you go take an eval with a drug counselor before your sentencing court date do they drug test there? Because at my PO meeting I got drug tested and they just said I had to talk to the counselor and nothing about testing. Someone please help and tell me if a counselor whos not with the probation will test you?

Thanks For the info guys!

Okay well what about Soma lol?

You'll be fine.

You'll be fine.

I hear rumors that high amounts of Carisprodol could trip a false for barbiturates but I'm not exactly sure if there's any bearing to that and if there is how it is chemically possible.

I hear rumors that high amounts of Carisprodol could trip a false for barbiturates but I'm not exactly sure if there's any bearing to that and if there is how it is chemically possible.


Not saying that ain't true, but I've not heard it before.

ok the guide that paradox posted better work, I smoked weed yesterday and surprisingly today my fuken PO is telling me to go take a drug test. Fuken eh huh?.....

So now I'm drinking 16oz of water followed by 5.5oz of v8 in between. Ima do this four times. I'm guessing its gonna work.

I do not wanna go back to juvee.

Okay, well I have one last question. I know benzos can stay in your system for a long time but isnt xanax one of the short-acting ones that isn't usually detectable in urine after 2-4 days or something? I've got 15 footballs sitting in my pocket and im really bored haha.

Prepare to go back.

run, run far away

I do not wanna go back to juvee.

Follow these directions closely.

-Consume 1 gallon of water.

-Take four pills of Vitamin B Complex, and a multi-vitamin.

-Urinate 3-4 times.

-Place your head firmly between your knees.

-Kiss your ass goodbye.

Hahahaha I passed it looool.......

I PWN.

This is what I did, drank 16oz of water and then 5.5oz of v8......did this 2 times and then i started drinkin 6-8 of coke instead of v8. I pissed really clear like 3 times before I went to test. And when I tested i still pissed clear but didn't look clear in the cup. I still passed.

cool huh??

You got lucky.

Next time take the vitamin B to make your piss yellow so they don't suspect it is diluted. Also, fuck V-8, even Coke. Drink coffee. That makes you piss like there's no tomorrow.

Fuck yeah dude dilution works like a charm. I pissed for my PO and shes like 'oh you've been drinking a lot of water', lulz. And it was like mostly clear but barely yellow I know what you're saying. I passed that shit but I hadn't smoked for like 17 days. Thats my plan for my upcoming drug tests to just quit for a couple weeks then drink enough water to dilute.

Fuck yeah dude dilution works like a charm. I pissed for my PO and shes like 'oh you've been drinking a lot of water', lulz. And it was like mostly clear but barely yellow I know what you're saying. I passed that shit but I hadn't smoked for like 17 days. Thats my plan for my upcoming drug tests to just quit for a couple weeks then drink enough water to dilute.


You know, you keep givinig mostly clear samples and she is going to suspect.

How fucking hard is it to just take a mother fucking B-comples vitamin the night before the test?

You know, you keep givinig mostly clear samples and she is going to suspect.

How fucking hard is it to just take a mother fucking B-comples vitamin the night before the test?

I know thats what I'm gonna do. But sometimes I drink so much water my piss doesn't even turn yellow. I guess I'm gonna have to take 2 pills cause one doesn't do it.

I know thats what I'm gonna do. But sometimes I drink so much water my piss doesn't even turn yellow. I guess I'm gonna have to take 2 pills cause one doesn't do it.

why are you such a pussy? your gonna fucking pass your test if it's gonna be in 2 weeks. you've already had plenty of time

why are you such a pussy? your gonna fucking pass your test if it's gonna be in 2 weeks. you've already had plenty of time

Your name should be automaticmoron. If he smokes even a couple/few times leading up to stopping 2 weeks before the test, he could still very well fail. THC is not all out of your body in only 14 days - generally speaking.

Your name should be automaticmoron. If he smokes even a couple/few times leading up to stopping 2 weeks before the test, he could still very well fail. THC is not all out of your body in only 14 days - generally speaking.

fuck you man , the person we're talking about is fucking skinny and on erowid it says weekly use stays in your system for 3-9 days, i guess your the moron then, you obviously don't know what your talking about

Bite me asshole. That site ain't always right.

You smoke one a week and wait 9 days and take a test and see what happens.

You can't trust everything you read, you have to trust experience.

I smoked 5 times, over a week, each time being about a joint/blunts worth of mids. I quit when I found out I would be tested. I'll have two weeks clean, and prior to the smoking I was clean. It's a dipstick, so I'm sure it's a 50 nanogram cutoff. I plan on pounding water and diruetics before the test and pissing as close as possible to it. I know to catch my urine midstream too. Should I pass?

Yeah if you drink a lot of water. It'll be mostly out of your system by then so it shouldn't be too tough.

how long does booze stay in your system. i hear 48 hours, but the lady at treatment said their test is "super sensitive" and can go up to 5 days?

Well I hear the new one goes 80 hours but a lot of courts still are skeptical about it which makes POs more hesitant to attempt to violate someone on the grounds of a positive resulting from that test.

It's also expensive and therefore scarcely used. Probation offices don't have bottomless funds you know.

yeah i have to pay for my own tests, 30$, so i guess their the standard ones.

fuck you man , the person we're talking about is fucking skinny and on erowid it says weekly use stays in your system for 3-9 days, i guess your the moron then, you obviously don't know what your talking about

The day that I trust erowid over Meta I'll take a fucking cock up the ass

Wow that sucks. My shit is $10 a month flat fee, and I COULD be tested every visit (weekly). It's usually bi-weekly though.

For $10 a month I doubt they're doing much beyond a simple 5-panel...maybe an occasional 10 for shits and giggles.

The day that I trust erowid over Meta I'll take a fucking cock up the ass

You knew meta when you were 7?

I have a question about how long pot's in your system. I know that for single use it's only in your system for 2-3 days, but last night I had a few hits. I don't smoke much at all; I don't think I'd smoked in 2-3 weeks. Would this still be in my system for 2-3 days or would it be there longer?

Probably about a week or so.

If I do not get a job due to failing a drug test, does that show up on my record anywhere?

Nochar

So I'm able to get a weeks straight of pot smoking out of my system within 2 weeks. How long do you think it'll take for a one time use to get out of my system?

No, it will take you 30 days to get reid of a week straight of smoking.

No, it will take you 30 days to get reid of a week straight of smoking.

How come I've passed a drug test without dilution or anything 2 weeks after I quit smoking when I did it for a week straight? I already know I can get clean that fast from that cause the drug test said so. Ugghhh meta your advice is useless sometimes.

How come I've passed a drug test without dilution or anything 2 weeks after I quit smoking when I did it for a week straight? I already know I can get clean that fast from that cause the drug test said so. Ugghhh meta your advice is useless sometimes.


You either have a way higher metabolism or you got lucky.....Or you didn't smoke that much pot - or that good of quality.

You either have a way higher metabolism or you got lucky.....Or you didn't smoke that much pot - or that good of quality.

Well its not bad weed....all my weed is always pretty decent 30s, not shwaggy ass bullshit, I've been smoking awhile I can get good bud. And on about 3 separate occasions, where I've smoked for like a week its only taken 2 weeks for me to get clean.

Yes I do have an insanely high metabolism, I have barely any body fat, I'm 5'7" 135 pounds. I guess I'm just lucky like that :)

The last time I toked was about 40 days ago, recently, 2 days ago I smoked a joint, and today I took about 5 hits from the bong. I've got a test in about 26 days.

Personally, I think I should be safe, but there's just that slight paranoia.

Dude you have jack shit to worry about.

Dude you have jack shit to worry about.

Good shit, thanks.

Yes I do have an insanely high metabolism, I have barely any body fat, I'm 5'7" 135 pounds. I guess I'm just lucky like that :)

Wow. You are Special

Wow. You are Special

Umm ok?? Its just I'm lucky cause I have to take drug tests but I can still get the occasional smoke in without consequences.

One of my buddies, who's not REALLY fat, but isn't thin, haha, smoked probably around a little less then a quarter with two other people in one day. He hadn't smoked for probably like 2 months or something. He took a drug screen a week later, didn't drink any water or anything, his mom picked him up after school and got it done, and he passed. We were both fuckin' mesmerized by this. Someone else I know said that she had a friend that smoked for the first time in her life (not sure how much or how big she is) and took a piss test the next day and passed. I don't know if she diluted her urine by drinking water or not, but I thought that was pretty insane. So I'm sure smoking like a few times after not having smoked in a while, you would be able to pass a drug screen within a few days. But then again, this also depends on what type of urine screen they use and how sensitive it is .

you know I never thought I'd shave my legs but here we go good thing my chest isnt really hairy but once again won't they see that I stopped smoking?

NO NO NO!!! It's in your system, that's all they care about.

Isn't there a drug testing thread?

lol

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