Along w/ my kilo of salvia, 50seeds of HWBR arrived in the mail today.

Based off my experiences w/ MG, I'm going to assume from the start that these suck dick.

I got them from herbalfire, which is actually BBB.

What is the best way to ingest them? Grind them up drop in drink and pop?

How many seeds for a 160-65lb male and for a 95lb female?

If you had these seeds, would you even show them to your girl? Are they REALLY gay?

Thanks

take about 8 (theres something called erowid) , be prepared to get nausea and/or vomiting...yes they are really gay, i never felt shit on them because 15 minutes after ingestion i would puke each time, and i'm pretty sure if i puked that your friend will puke as well considering she's a girl and girls suck at doing drugs


what's the point in buying a shit ton of salvia leaves, do they get you high or something cuz that shit is weak as fuck

what's the point in buying a shit ton of salvia leaves, do they get you high or something cuz that shit is weak as fuck

Lol, I agree that a kilo is ridiculous, but lol.

Its a damn intense hallucinogen/ethneogen.

^ yeah i know that but the leaves did absolutely nothing for me, he should've got a shit load of 5x or something....but to OP whether you smoke marijuana or not you should keep some handy for the nausea just incase

The only point in buying salvia leaves is if you are going to do your own extraction. In which case, your point is a very good one.

Along w/ my kilo of salvia

Thanks

investing on hopes of criminalization ehhh?

also does anyone remember that dude that extracted a kilo of salvia and was going to vaporise the Salvinorin

Not as gay as richard simmons

I took about 20 of them the night before 4/20. It was actually kind of interesting...save for the horrible nausea...and the numb feeling on my skin and neck that i get from halluciogens. After throwing up for an hour, the entire next day I was just laughing my ass off. And that was before I even got stoned. So...interesting. But also gay. Not at all hXc. Id suggest extracting it and putting it in orange juice.

CaspeR

95 pounds? Jesus christ, feed your woman.

Funny, I just recieved 1oz of organic MG seeds, hope I don't get too nautious:(

Funny, I just recieved 1oz of organic MG seeds, hope I don't get too nautious:(

make lsaemonade, using concentrated lemon juice, and dechlorinated water.

I haven't gotten to try this method out just yet, waiting for summer, though it's full of win.
I might also try it with the 20 argyreia nervosa i have left. last i checked they were full of LSAs.

make lsaemonade, using concentrated lemon juice, and dechlorinated water.

I haven't gotten to try this method out just yet, waiting for summer, though it's full of win.
I might also try it with the 20 argyreia nervosa i have left. last i checked they were full of LSAs.

Give some fucking credit to JoePedo.

And you got his recipe wrong, fail x 2.

The kilo of foilage was to make extractions. I plan to open an online "enthobotanical" shop and use that to start out.

i dont even know you and you've talked shit to me before. but i'll be sure to be your first customer, seriously

i dont even know you and you've talked shit to me before. but i'll be sure to be your first customer, seriously

Lol, I don't even look at names 90% of the time. I'm hooking up BLTC anyways.

Lol, I don't even look at names 90% of the time. I'm hooking up BLTC anyways.


its all good. what strength of extract are you planning on making? also what other botanicals will you have in your theoretical store? you should sell kratom for sure

I plan to open an online "enthobotanical" shop and use that to start out.

whenwhenwhen?

Give some fucking credit to JoePedo.

And you got his recipe wrong, fail x 2.

I never took credit for anything.. which is why i said lsaemonade, and that i haven't tried it yet, but when the time comes, i know it's gonna win.

and if i got it wrong then why not CORRECT me then instead of just pointing it out for fucks sake.

its all good. what strength of extract are you planning on making? also what other botanicals will you have in your theoretical store? you should sell kratom for sure

To start off I'm going to make 20 20x standerdized and 12 40x standerdized from my kilo.

If that works well, I'll buy 5keys then 10 then figure it out.

I want to get wholesale kratom, because most retail kratom sites dont sell over a few OZ (from what I've seen but I should look harder).

There is one wholesaler that literally supplies all the major mainstream retailers (BBB/IAS etc) but he refuses to sell to non buisnesses. I need to have my website first before he sells to me.

I just got the key yesterday, I'm going to pick up solvents tomarro and a hotplate. Because I'm making them standerdized it will take me a while..so I want to have the website up and running in two months.

I also need to learn about how to take credit card payments/paypall and have a shopping cart bullshit. I can do HTML but no PHP/CGI I'm sure there is free shopping carts that install themself pretty easily though.

I also need to figure out whether or not I need to do taxes because a) I'm a minor b)its not going to make me much money at all. I need to figure out how to cheat them or minimize them if I do.

What prices do you suggest? I want to undercut all those mainstream faggots obviously and then the Totse hook will do damage to there customer base too.

^ well theres
http://nomad.ecrater.com/ they sell 2.2 pounds and less.


dude you should also make a lower extract... because me and i'm sure other people like weak extracts like 5x or something.
good luck and let us know when this shit is going down

Lol, I don't even look at names 90% of the time. I'm hooking up BLTC anyways.

I for one will support your shop for sure. Go for it. :)

Uhh... you do know, short of the street and ebay, you can't sell this shit in a "shop" unless you have licensing and are paying taxes... it takes more than you would think.

And 50 grams of 20X is going to make you what? 2-3 grand over the course of a month or two??

Get licensing... do some more reading into what tax laws are.

You are going to get in trouble if you plan to sell shit under the name of a business without business licenses and tax shit...

Plus, get ready to invest 10-20 grand in botanicals just to start a decent shop.

Sorry... I didn't read your latest post before... and you have had contact with the same wholesaler I have... and no.. you don't just need a site... have another chat with them, I was told to have business with them you must have a tax ID form, a business license, shipping papers and a few other things.

This is a lot more than you think it is, and if you plan to make any kind of money at all... you need those things, you need a site (which can literally be purchased from the wholesaler we speak of... well... the HTTML... you are going to need to hire a web designer most likely, and buy web space.

I think you are undermining this tax thing... they will FUCK you!

I don't know, but I could picture something like this having something to do with MGB's downfall...

I have been thinking about this kind of shit for years now, I have played it from many angles in my head, and I am getting an idea of what it would take. I think you have announced this shit too early... everyone here has access to a kilo of foliage (your foliage) for 120 bucks, I know that, everyone knows that!! and I don't see why anyone on here would want to buy extract from someone who is making it themselves openly with hardware store chemicals... I certainly won't even pay $5 for a gram of someone else's home made 10X (because I know it is worth just over a buck, and it's made by an un-registered, un-respected vendor)

I don't mean I don't respect you, it is just, you have no name for yourself in the business... YET! but if you actually have a drive for this, then give it some time, sell some things on the street and on ebay... then after your community knows you for the legal herbs and a handful of ebay people see your mad deals and awesome customer service, then they will be stoked when you open a real site! and they will stick with you.

The best "real" drug dealers I ever met sold shit dirty cheap and barely made a profit gram for gram, but in the end they were the ones buying new cars and shit... because people love the friendly guy (MGB with contests and free shit... the guy did good while he was around!)

Also, something I didn't mention was convenient stores.

If you can find a convenient store selling salvia, find out what they pay, act like a business man, and cut them a deal, tell them that whether they want it or not, you will be back in a week with 10 FREE packages of salvia for him to sell, and then a week later, come back and see how it went. Convenient store owners sell salvia for the plain fact that it is cheap to buy, sort of eye grabbing, but profitable as all fuck! and when slapped in the face with a chance for a much higher profit margin, it will cross there minds at the very least!

Also, selling to convenient stores would be very easy because predominantly (especially if the place sells salvia) they are sorta sketchy people, and are willing to buy things that are a little shifty themselves.

Package the shit WELL! no matter where you are selling it, but especially on ebay and to the convenient stores.

Like man... if you know anyone that owns a convenient store, or know someone that does... then get the fuck in there and see if you can have SOMEONE ELSE sell multiple grams of salvia for you per week!

This is pretty much all I can suggest, and I do wish you luck... but you need much more business ethic before you start trying to seriously sell ethnobotanicals.

Uhh... you do know, short of the street and ebay, you can't sell this shit in a "shop" unless you have licensing and are paying taxes... it takes more than you would think.

I doubt all the online hobby shops are licences w/ buisness licenses. If they are, fuck it I'll just get one not a big deal.


And 50 grams of 20X is going to make you what? 2-3 grand over the course of a month or two??

Nah..haha. Of course no one will believe me but I truly do believe in chemical love and most of the money will go back to fund the buisness and the extras will be left to support my expanding habits.


Get licensing... do some more reading into what tax laws are.

You are going to get in trouble if you plan to sell shit under the name of a business without business licenses and tax shit...

Sounds like alot of effort.

IDGAF FTW!

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Ya, I'm not a piece of shit I actually have basic chemistry knowledge. I wouldn't trust some piece of shit either on Totse claiming to make "standerdized" extractions.

This is why I will probally throw down alot of samples and hook up Totse. Honestly my main customers will be from Totse I'm planning on so I'm not going to worry about an expensive ass web design to impress a bunch of yuppies.

I like your idea on the conviniet stores. This asshole who sells me cigarettes in a tobacco shop says he is trying to cope mad salvia and I could probally hook it.

I can do the HTML, and there are REALLY cheap ass webhosts out there.

This is really going to be my costs:

The drugs in semi or full wholesale form
Solvents
Hotplate
Webhost
Taxes - ha NO WAY FUCK THAT.


I'll probally end up getting licenced, I am on probation and I can go to jail even over a misdemenor. I don't think it would be worth it.

Ok... you will only be able to accept cash from people then... no using paypal over and over and over again in small increments... the bank notices $10-$50 bucks going into your banks account multiple times a day everyday... then tax problems come about.

I could be completely wrong... but I would put money on it that you have to pay certain taxes when selling "incense" through a website... but you are selling over trusty old totse for a while?? ... ok. Have fun with the repeated attempts at scamming.

Pope, I'll design your packaging for a commission. I know what i'm doing, And it wont look like mosto f those gayass rainbow coloured packets the shit normally comes in. IMHO that style of marketing only puts off everyone but the most extreme of fuckheads.

Packaging? You mean like stickers on the baggies? That would be chill I love it when I buy salvia and it charges to me w/ a dope sticker.