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Old 2008-03-23, 02:28
niggar hater niggar hater is offline
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Default MDMA made me sleepy=death?

ive tooken ~60mg up the nose, ~100mg up the nose i think two weeks later, then ~100mg orally 2 weeks later, then 2 weeks later(yesterday) i took 100mg orally all from the same batch. the first 3 times it made me up'idy and normal effects. but yesterday during the peek(one hour after eating the casual) it made me feel tired/like i was going to pass out when laying down, right before i was about to fall asleep i realized something was wrong and that i shouldn't be tired (when i stood up i felt more awake.) anyways does falling asleep on a stim mean your dying?
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Old 2008-03-23, 02:30
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holy shit this sounds serious i would advise avoiding all stimulants or you will die!
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Old 2008-03-23, 02:31
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Yep you're dying. Sorry.
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Old 2008-03-23, 02:33
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You were just rolling really hard man. When you have a dose of mdma that is high for you then the stimulant affects recede and it becomes very much more psychadelic and messy.

Go a bit further and you'll be sitting in the corner talking to people who aren't actually there while smoking invisible cigarettes.
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Old 2008-03-23, 02:38
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Default Re: MDMA made me sleepy=death?

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Originally Posted by plainclothescop
You were just rolling really hard man. When you have a dose of mdma that is high for you then the stimulant affects recede and it becomes very much more psychadelic and messy.

Go a bit further and you'll be sitting in the corner talking to people who aren't actually there while smoking invisible cigarettes.


im sure he said MDMA not scopolamine
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Old 2008-03-23, 02:50
plainclothescop plainclothescop is offline
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im sure he said MDMA not scopolamine
Yeah, he did, which is why I said it. High doses of mdma fuck with your head severely.
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Old 2008-03-23, 02:58
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Yeah, he did, which is why I said it. High doses of mdma fuck with your head severely.

This is true.
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Old 2008-03-23, 02:59
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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This is true.

I dont know weather to believe you or not.

And how large of doses are we talking about?
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Old 2008-03-23, 03:04
plainclothescop plainclothescop is offline
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I dont know weather to believe you or not.

And how large of doses are we talking about?
You can't ever really give an answer to a question like that, there are far too many variables to take into account (the individuals sensitivity to mdma, their tolerance to mdma, their general mental disposition etc). But in saying that, an average person (how I love that phrase) with very little tolerance will be feeling those effects off around approximately 550-600mg of mdma.
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Old 2008-03-23, 03:07
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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550-600mg of mdma.

EEK! EEK! EEK! EEK!

I would imagine your heart explodes around a dose like that. Why would anyone take anything close to that much MDMA?

then again there are fucking e-tards who pop cheep rolls like candy. :/
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Old 2008-03-23, 03:13
plainclothescop plainclothescop is offline
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EEK! EEK! EEK! EEK!

I would imagine your heart explodes around a dose like that. Why would anyone take anything close to that much MDMA?

then again there are fucking e-tards who pop cheep rolls like candy. :/
That's just an estimated guess on dosage there, it's not by any means parochial though, it's based on my personal experience and observations made from watching others reach the same state that it takes around 5 or 6 pills over a fairly short time period (maybe two and a half, 3 hours) to get there.
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Old 2008-03-23, 03:59
niggar hater niggar hater is offline
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Originally Posted by plainclothescop
You were just rolling really hard man. When you have a dose of mdma that is high for you then the stimulant affects recede and it becomes very much more psychadelic and messy.

Go a bit further and you'll be sitting in the corner talking to people who aren't actually there while smoking invisible cigarettes.


this makes sense as i had some minor hullenations at the peak also, thanks
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Old 2008-03-23, 08:50
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LOL. I saw my friend do that when he ate 5 good rolls at once.
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Old 2008-03-24, 02:37
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Default Re: MDMA made me sleepy=death?

Its nothing really dangerous I dont think.

In Sydney we call it 'Smacking out' You see it all the time at raves, heaps of people just sitting on the back wall, gurning like crazy and eyes wide open staring at the lasers.

It fucking sucks when you spend like $60 on pills then you start feeling all smacky, but some people love it and do it on purpose.

You can sometimes stop it, I find that if you keep your mind moving, it gets better, keep constant conversation with someone if you can, one of my friends spoke in an american accent for 6 or something hours because it involved extra thinking before you talked and kept your mind moving, it was annoying as fuck but it kept him from smacking out.
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Old 2008-03-24, 02:57
plainclothescop plainclothescop is offline
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Its nothing really dangerous I dont think.

In Sydney we call it 'Smacking out' You see it all the time at raves, heaps of people just sitting on the back wall, gurning like crazy and eyes wide open staring at the lasers.

It fucking sucks when you spend like $60 on pills then you start feeling all smacky, but some people love it and do it on purpose.

You can sometimes stop it, I find that if you keep your mind moving, it gets better, keep constant conversation with someone if you can, one of my friends spoke in an american accent for 6 or something hours because it involved extra thinking before you talked and kept your mind moving, it was annoying as fuck but it kept him from smacking out.

Only retarded kiddies call it "smacking out."
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Old 2008-03-24, 04:33
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Its nothing really dangerous I dont think.

In Sydney we call it 'Smacking out' You see it all the time at raves, heaps of people just sitting on the back wall, gurning like crazy and eyes wide open staring at the lasers.

It fucking sucks when you spend like $60 on pills then you start feeling all smacky, but some people love it and do it on purpose.

You can sometimes stop it, I find that if you keep your mind moving, it gets better, keep constant conversation with someone if you can, one of my friends spoke in an american accent for 6 or something hours because it involved extra thinking before you talked and kept your mind moving, it was annoying as fuck but it kept him from smacking out.


are you sure you are not talking about Heroin-Based E?
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Old 2008-03-24, 04:56
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one of my friends spoke in an american accent for 6 or something hours because it involved extra thinking before you talked and kept your mind moving, it was annoying as fuck but it kept him from smacking out.
What are you talking about? Americans don't have accents!
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Old 2008-03-24, 04:58
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are you sure you are not talking about Heroin-Based E?

You're kidding, right?
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Old 2008-03-24, 05:33
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no ^ people do cut rolls with H and i do not have a clue why.

Maybe it has something to do with addiction potential?
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Old 2008-03-24, 05:43
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mah compound
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no ^ people do cut rolls with H and i do not have a clue why.

Maybe it has something to do with addiction potential?



I lol'd.
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Old 2008-03-24, 05:56
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Default Re: MDMA made me sleepy=death?

You can't ever really give an answer to a question like that, there are far too many variables to take into account (the individuals sensitivity to mdma, their tolerance to mdma, their general mental disposition etc). But in saying that, an average person (how I love that phrase) with very little tolerance will be feeling those effects off around approximately 550-600mg of mdma.

My record is 18 good quality pills (roughly 70mg/mdma/piece) over a period of five hours. To begin, I did ten within 30minutes and when I peaked, I actually laid down and passed out for 20 minutes (For what only seemed like seconds). No stimulation affects whatsoever, strong hallucinations. This tolerance came from doing over 700 pills over the course of ten months.

That was the 2nd to last time I have done E, and that was over five weeks ago.
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Old 2008-03-24, 06:10
plainclothescop plainclothescop is offline
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Default Re: MDMA made me sleepy=death?

My record is 18 good quality pills (roughly 70mg/mdma/piece) over a period of five hours. To begin, I did ten within 30minutes and when I peaked, I actually laid down and passed out for 20 minutes (For what only seemed like seconds). No stimulation affects whatsoever, strong hallucinations. This tolerance came from doing over 700 pills over the course of ten months.

That was the 2nd to last time I have done E, and that was over five weeks ago.
70mg a pill instead what I'd consider a good quality pill man. It's far from it to be honest.
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Old 2008-03-24, 14:06
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Default Re: MDMA made me sleepy=death?

EEK! EEK! EEK! EEK!

I would imagine your heart explodes around a dose like that. Why would anyone take anything close to that much MDMA?

then again there are fucking e-tards who pop cheep rolls like candy. :/

I know people who go through a gram of MDMA in a night. I've also witnessed someone do 21 pills over 24 hours. Personally, I'd never risk my body over someting like that, the most I've done is 3.5 pills and 2 bombs of MDMA (probably totalling about 450mg) over 10 hours, and I never want to be that messy again. I had OEV's and severe memory loss by the 6th hour (I'd be talking and just stop and not be able to remember what I was saying, or I'd walk into a room and not know why I was there and have to re-trace my steps). It's not fun when it gets to that point, but plenty of people do it.

Back on topic, I've almost fallen asleep on it before, I was just bored (didn't like the atmosphere), had had a bit to drink and smoke as well, but was only on about 150-200mg. Went for a walk after and I felt fine. Not dead yet.
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Old 2008-03-24, 14:33
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I fucking hate threads about MDMA. All the dipshits come crawling out of the woodwork.
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Old 2008-03-24, 16:46
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lol, i did 3/4 of a gram on saturday night, spread out from 7 to about 4...

I sometimes get very slight OEVs on MDMA, if you take mushrooms with them (even just a couple) they become a LOT more pronounced in my experience.
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Old 2008-03-25, 02:12
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It's fun to watch people on high doses of MDMA. They just kind of walk around aimlessly until they find someone to talk to, they talk for a few minutes, and then make some bizarre excuse to leave. It's funny because the purpose of the excuse is swiftly forgotten, and so the aimless wander continues.

If you get enough people to that level it's like watching lottery balls bounce off of each other.

I have to say though, I am a little partial to such an 'experience'. Only for special occasions, however.

Edit: Oh and I have to say that MDMA OEVs can be pretty odd - a mate of mine once saw sun glasses on everyone's face in the room... *shakes head disapprovingly* :D
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Old 2008-03-25, 03:02
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I have taken a roll and gotten an opiate buzz before, no lie, I fell asleep in my computer chair with my penis in my hand.
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Old 2008-03-25, 08:37
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Originally Posted by niggar hater
ive tooken ~60mg up the nose, ~100mg up the nose i think two weeks later, then ~100mg orally 2 weeks later, then 2 weeks later(yesterday) i took 100mg orally all from the same batch. the first 3 times it made me up'idy and normal effects. but yesterday during the peek(one hour after eating the casual) it made me feel tired/like i was going to pass out when laying down, right before i was about to fall asleep i realized something was wrong and that i shouldn't be tired (when i stood up i felt more awake.) anyways does falling asleep on a stim mean your dying?


is it pure MDMA(powder), or pills? if its pills you had it sounds like your smacking out, which is my favourite stage. I wouldnt no about pure mdma as i have never had it.
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Old 2008-03-25, 09:10
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I really don't like E

I took 5 and didn't feel anything except a little happy, its bullshit.

I've tried at least 10 different kinds of pills, all with minimal effects.

When my buddy whipped out some molly though, that was a good time:D
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Old 2008-03-25, 09:16
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I really don't like E

I took 5 and didn't feel anything except a little happy, its bullshit.

I've tried at least 10 different kinds of pills, all with minimal effects.

When my buddy whipped out some molly though, that was a good time:D


Are you sure you were sold e's, not pro plus or something, or have you got a high tolerance to them. cos five is alot, and you should feel something.
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Old 2008-03-25, 09:19
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Are you sure you were sold e's, not pro plus or something, or have you got a high tolerance to them. cos five is alot, and you should feel something.

Trust me dude, I know.

But what are the odds of all 10 of them being pro-plus's?

Not high where I live.
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Old 2008-03-25, 10:01
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Trust me dude, I know.

But what are the odds of all 10 of them being pro-plus's?

Not high where I live.

lol, fair enough although quality does vary in my area, but ive always felt something.
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Old 2008-03-25, 16:12
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Man, I've done over a gram of crystal MDMA on a couple of occasions. Usually, my buddy and I would end up unable to even talk, just sitting there gurning like monsters. The first time I did that much crystal MDMA, I was leaning up against a hot radiator for a good few hours, not noticing that the whole time my back was being burnt to a crisp...I still have a scar now. Pretty stupid really.

Also, I'd say to avoid drinking heavily on 500mg+ doses of pure MDMA. I once did roughly that much and drank half a bottle of whisky. I have little memory of the night, but I woke up slumped over somebody's garden table in the mistaken belief that I was at my uncle's house in Perth, Australia, and I've never even been there before. I even knocked on the door of the house and asked if my uncle was there, and it took me a good 20 minutes to realise that I was, in fact, in the UK. I'm pretty sure I could have died that night, since it was the mid-November in Wales and I'd been asleep outside for several hours.
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Old 2008-03-25, 16:40
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Man, I've done over a gram of crystal MDMA on a couple of occasions. Usually, my buddy and I would end up unable to even talk, just sitting there gurning like monsters. The first time I did that much crystal MDMA, I was leaning up against a hot radiator for a good few hours, not noticing that the whole time my back was being burnt to a crisp...I still have a scar now. Pretty stupid really.

Also, I'd say to avoid drinking heavily on 500mg+ doses of pure MDMA. I once did roughly that much and drank half a bottle of whisky. I have little memory of the night, but I woke up slumped over somebody's garden table in the mistaken belief that I was at my uncle's house in Perth, Australia, and I've never even been there before. I even knocked on the door of the house and asked if my uncle was there, and it took me a good 20 minutes to realise that I was, in fact, in the UK. I'm pretty sure I could have died that night, since it was the mid-November in Wales and I'd been asleep outside for several hours.


hahahaha. lol, ive had a couple of embarrasing experiences, like one time I was tripping my tits off and gave my phone to a friend to look after, I either dropped it or gave to some random stranger, also numerous times ive shit myself, i decided not to e's after that, havent tried pure tho, apparently not a trippy, and less of a cum down, is that true?
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Old 2008-03-26, 02:43
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are you sure you are not talking about Heroin-Based E?

Some came through here a little bit ago.

I know because a girl went to the hospital for some reason and heroin was among the list after they tested a pill (and I'm assuming her as well).


.......that's all I can say about that month.....bad.....
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Old 2008-03-26, 05:19
plainclothescop plainclothescop is offline
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Some came through here a little bit ago.

I know because a girl went to the hospital for some reason and heroin was among the list after they tested a pill (and I'm assuming her as well).


.......that's all I can say about that month.....bad.....
You're a fuckwit.

Think about the oral bioavailability of heroin. Then think about the price of heroin. Then think about the price of an ecstasy pill.

Moron.
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Old 2008-03-26, 05:27
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You're a fuckwit.

Think about the oral bioavailability of heroin. Then think about the price of heroin. Then think about the price of an ecstasy pill.

Moron.

I always get a chuckle when people say "HEROIN BASED E!!!"

Fuck what's the other one?

Heroin based acid or something like that?

Kids are always making me giggle.
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Old 2008-03-26, 05:35
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I always get a chuckle when people say "HEROIN BASED E!!!"

Fuck what's the other one?

Heroin based acid or something like that?

Kids are always making me giggle.

The other one's acid-based E.:D
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Old 2008-03-26, 08:04
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70mg a pill instead what I'd consider a good quality pill man. It's far from it to be honest.

Ok, good for the fucking price I pay, 1$ a piece. Thanks for posting some relevant information that will help others in this thread.
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Old 2008-03-26, 09:38
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Highest dose ive ever taken was 8 good quality pills in about 3 hours. I was at a get together on the beach. There was alot of people there and most where having fun dancing, drinking and general partying.


while i was about 50 feet away laying on the sand staring at the ocean and the sky. spent the next 6 hours sitting there contemplating my very existence. rolling nuts having very vivid hallucinations. every once in a while a friend would come and talk to me. or a random person would pass by and try to make conversation. but i was to busy having fun in my own little world.

it was a good experience but a bid sad when i think of how unsocial it made me.
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Old 2008-03-26, 12:33
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It's fun to watch people on high doses of MDMA. They just kind of walk around aimlessly until they find someone to talk to, they talk for a few minutes, and then make some bizarre excuse to leave. It's funny because the purpose of the excuse is swiftly forgotten, and so the aimless wander continues.

If you get enough people to that level it's like watching lottery balls bounce off of each other.

I have to say though, I am a little partial to such an 'experience'. Only for special occasions, however.

Edit: Oh and I have to say that MDMA OEVs can be pretty odd - a mate of mine once saw sun glasses on everyone's face in the room... *shakes head disapprovingly* :D


There's a couple of clubs near me where almost every single fucker is on MDMA or pills haha. It's nice to see so many people obviously all feeling so good and happy. Definitely beats a normal club where you've just got a bunch of messy drunk people snogging ugly birds and being sick. One of the clubs even charges like £5 a drink to discourage drinking!! And water is free ;)

Me and my friend did a gram of MDMA (it was my first time, but I always do shit to excess) and I was in fucking heaven. My friend was also in heaven, but he started tripping balls hahaha. He kept thinking that people had face paint and party hats on, and even walked up to some random guy and started saying "Man I fucking love your face paint! Where did you get it done!!" Then a few seconds later you could see the priceless, confused, embarrased look when he realised that the guy didn't have any face paint on.

Haha.
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Old 2008-03-30, 03:31
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---UPDATE---

Yesterday at 3:15pm i took 100mg, had a good time and all and around 6ish it was starting to ware off so i took ~50mg and then 20 minutes later i took anther 100mg.....something fun probably happened and i woke up at 3:30PM and my room was a bit messy (note: i didn't leave my room the entire time, just lied in bed and listened to techno). i have no memory from 7-3pm
 
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