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| Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference. |
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#1
 2008-03-22, 03:00
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mdma powder dosages?
hey I just got 1.75 grams of power mdma, I was wondering how I should dose this out as I dont have a scale that goes to the point. What would be an average dose I was thinking 100-150 mg = 1 pill? Anyone have any tips to easily dose this out?
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#2
 2008-03-22, 03:51
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
Oh you're a lucky bastard. Just snort a tiny little speedbump line and see how you feel.
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#3
 2008-03-22, 04:00
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
I love how everyone automatically assumes that the molly they are buying is 100% pure so that their dosages of it will directly correlate with that of pure mdma. I mean, the cocaine we buy is a powder, yet we all know and accept that dealers weave a little magic to make 1 ounce into 45g etc, so why the fuck wouldn't they do the same for mdma?
Yes, if you have an incredible hookup and are actually getting pure mdma then 150mg will have you rolling quite hard, but seeing as none of us actually know the purity of your gear than none of us can tell you how much to take, bar fro saying start with around 200mg and work your way from there.
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#4
 2008-03-22, 04:55
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
1/10 of a gram is considered one dose Molly. SO as the other person said 150-200mg should be sufficient. is it MDMA or some sassafras.
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#5
 2008-03-22, 05:00
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
divide into 10 even piles and each should theoretically be 175 mg
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#6
 2008-03-22, 06:35
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
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Originally Posted by 42Oinchrims
1/10 of a gram is considered one dose Molly. SO as the other person said 150-200mg should be sufficient. is it MDMA or some sassafras.
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What in the fuck are you talking about? sassafras? No one sells sassy as MDMA moron. Safrole? First of all, safrole is a liquid, not a solid, second of all, people would be dropping like fucking flies after eating pure safrole.
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#7
 2008-03-22, 07:27
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
Youve never had MDA synthesized form sassafras? Its a Yellowish powder and I see it all the time here in st. louis... We jsut call it sassafras here. Its not actually sassafras thats jsut where it comes from... Different terms different places.
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#8
 2008-03-22, 07:31
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
Youve never had MDA extracted form sassafras? Its a Yellowish powder and I see it all the time here in st. louis...
It is not extracted from sassafras, it is MADE from SAFROLE which is an essential oil found in sassafrass. Go read for fucks sake, you sound like a moron.
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#9
 2008-03-22, 07:34
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42Oinchrims 
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
I typed it wrong first i meant synthesized... Stop trying to get your little rocks off. Its just a term for a fucking form of mda here in st. louis. Call me a moron if you want thats just wat some people call mda that had safrole as a precursor.
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#10
 2008-03-22, 07:37
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
I typed it wrong first i meant synthesized... Stop trying to get your little rocks off.
It still doesn't change the fact that you thought that sassafrass was MDA, which it most certainly is not. Stop trying to save face and just admit you don't know shit.
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#11
 2008-03-22, 07:41
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42Oinchrims 
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
I didnt think that dude, thats what we call mda here that was synthesized from sassafras root. I really could care less about what you think of me. I dont need a bunch of people on the internet to think im cool, the only reason im on here is cuz of house arrest.
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#12
 2008-03-22, 07:43
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
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Originally Posted by 42Oinchrims
I didnt think that dude, thats what we call mda here that was synthesized from sassafras root. I really could care less about what you think of me. I dont need a bunch of people on the internet to think im cool, the only reason im on here is cuz of house arrest.
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So now you claim to be able to tell what route was taken to get to the end product?
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#13
 2008-03-22, 07:46
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42Oinchrims 
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
No i dont know how it is synthesized, your the mod in lab tips dude, im not trying to start some bitchy fight. I know safrol which comes from sassafras is a precursor to mda, and where im form in st. louis mda that uses that as a precursor is sometimes called sassafras. Big deal, lets just agree to disagree. I know from using it not reading about it. Obviously sassafras is a plant and it wouldnt be very much if he only had 1.75 grams, obviosiuly i knew he was tlaking ab out a powder.
Edit: i didnt realize it was such a localized term, or i would have just said mda or soemthing.
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#14
 2008-03-22, 07:50
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
Ok, well get it right the first time or expect to be corrected.
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#15
 2008-03-22, 08:57
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SebRiz 
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
Well I had a little keyer and i dunno kinda felt a luttle bit of an e high and I am a little bit now. I think tommorow night I will have about 150 mg
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#16
 2008-03-22, 10:02
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
if it's pure mdma it'll be grayish crystals and taste like absolute shite. Like gone off piss or something. If it's this then just take one or two dabs and you'll be cool. Be cool. If it's not, take ALOT of it!
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#17
 2008-03-22, 13:51
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
It is not extracted from sassafras, it is MADE from SAFROLE which is an essential oil found in sassafrass. Go read for fucks sake, you sound like a moron.
doesnt safrole convert to mda when digested?i read after several hours when liver breaks it down it converts to mda.
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#18
 2008-03-22, 15:02
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
doesnt safrole convert to mda when digested?i read after several hours when liver breaks it down it converts to mda.
LOL fuck no it doesn't. Do you think your body can isomerize safrole to isosafrole, wacker oxidize and then aminate that shit? Just because some jackasses webpage says it's possible doesn't mean shit. Go look at what it takes to convert that shit, and then tell me the human liver is capable of doing that.
You fucking kids kill me with your myths.
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#19
 2008-03-22, 15:13
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
"sassafras" is a stupid kiddie name for MDxx. I've never even heard it used like that before but it's pretty obvious the person that made it up doesn't know what they're talking about. it's kinda like calling PCP "formaldehyde."
OP: do a few small lines until you get to where you want to be. there's no telling the potency of that stuff. if it's good stuff, .1-.15 will do you, but chances are you'll need like .25ish. just take it easy until you know what you're dealing with.
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#20
 2008-03-22, 15:22
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
Okay, first up:
did you get the mdma as one crystal, or already crushed up? is it "glassy" in texture or powdery? It should be glassy. The taste is OBSCENELY bad with pure-ish MDMA.
rack yourself up a little line (say 2 or 3 matchsticks) and make a bomb of the same amount. do the line then drop the bomb. sorted.
Edit: You'll probably get thru 1/4-1/2 gram in a night.
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#21
 2008-03-22, 15:58
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
LOL fuck no it doesn't. Do you think your body can isomerize safrole to isosafrole, wacker oxidize and then aminate that shit? Just because some jackasses webpage says it's possible doesn't mean shit. Go look at what it takes to convert that shit, and then tell me the human liver is capable of doing that.
You fucking kids kill me with your myths.
i never saw anything to confirm it other than reading the effects of sass and noticing some physical similarities. i dont know shit about chemistry but the body does break down shit and turn it into other shit. like with vitamins and minerals in foods so i didnt think it was impossible. also stupid noob what does chemistry have to do with the human body. not much. look at 5 htp i dont know how i could use chemistry to break it down to seretonin but if i swallow some the 5htp converts no problem.
im sorry that no one is as smart as you and hopefully you can be kind enough to spread your knowledge peacefully instead of being a complete jack ass.
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#22
 2008-03-22, 15:58
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
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Originally Posted by Ljudska
"sassafras" is a stupid kiddie name for MDxx. I've never even heard it used like that before but it's pretty obvious the person that made it up doesn't know what they're talking about. it's kinda like calling PCP "formaldehyde."
OP: do a few small lines until you get to where you want to be. there's no telling the potency of that stuff. if it's good stuff, .1-.15 will do you, but chances are you'll need like .25ish. just take it easy until you know what you're dealing with.
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I still get people in real life claiming that formaldehyde gets you high. After a bit of screaming at them, I tell them I have some at home they are more than welcome to smoke, and they always decline, finally pulling their head from their ass.
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#23
 2008-03-22, 16:58
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
SN, i have to say that knowledgeable though you seem, you are far to fast to jump on people who dont know as much as you. Perhaps you should try taking the "benevolent teacher" role rather than the "Elite chemist who cannot get anything done because he is constantly troubled by annoying little monkeys" one. Granted it is not as fun but i think it could be very beneficial to the forum If some of the older BLTCers stepped down off the high horse, as it were.
And before you say "But they come in here asking the same stupid questions over and over again" - Look at my registration date.
Of course there are some utter morons who do not warrant anyones time; But clearing up a myth relating to MDMA synthesis (I didnt know that, and i am an experienced drug user) without flaming is hardly asking much.
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#24
 2008-03-22, 21:09
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
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Originally Posted by Spliffing
SN, i have to say that knowledgeable though you seem, you are far to fast to jump on people who dont know as much as you. Perhaps you should try taking the "benevolent teacher" role rather than the "Elite chemist who cannot get anything done because he is constantly troubled by annoying little monkeys" one. Granted it is not as fun but i think it could be very beneficial to the forum If some of the older BLTCers stepped down off the high horse, as it were.
And before you say "But they come in here asking the same stupid questions over and over again" - Look at my registration date.
Of course there are some utter morons who do not warrant anyones time; But clearing up a myth relating to MDMA synthesis (I didnt know that, and i am an experienced drug user) without flaming is hardly asking much.
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Oh, I do take that role, as many here can verify, I just choose not to do it for all the dumb little kidiots. It's not my job to educate every little moron on this site. I do take people under my wing, and help them, but they have to prove themselves through diligent research FIRST. I get several emails every day asking all kinds of stupid ass questions, and despite my profile saying leave me the fuck alone, they still do it. BUT every now and then someone will come forward with a decent well thought out question, and I am more than happy to help them.
Just like the droves of idiots here are not obligated to think before they speak, or verify something before posting it, or to even use common fucking sense, or for fucks sake google, I myself am not obligated to spoon feed them, or even be nice to them.
If others have every right to be as stupid as they want, I have every right to be as mean and sarcastic and insulting as I want.
If these fuckers can piss me off with their total fucking ignorance and unwillingness to do even the simplest of research, then I likewise can piss them off however I choose.
And don't go thinking this is just for the net, I am like that in real life too. If someone does something I don't like, I do not hesitate to let them know, and if what they did pisses me off, then I am always sure to return the favor.
If you can be an idiot, I can be an asshole. If I have to deal with thread after thread of dumb fucks, then those dumb fucks can deal with thread after thread of me belittling them and pointing out just how fucking stupid they are.
Know an easy way to avoid me getting on your case? Don't be a fucking jackass. Don't want me to call you a retard after every post you make? Then don't be a fucking retard, and I won't have to call you out on it.
If you don't give me anything to bitch about, then I won't bitch, but if you keep giving me reasons to call you stupid, then by god I sure as fuck am gonna do it. Because I can. Because it takes a little bit of the edge off of the anger you dumb little twits make me feel. If I can transfer just a tad bit of that emotion back to the person who caused it, then I feel better, and that's what it's all about.
And don't give me this shit about teh intrawebz iz srs biznis and I shouldn't get so pissed, because the exact same thing can be said for the dipshits who get their feelings hurt over the things I say.
Ignorance in ANY form, and in ANY medium pisses me the fuck off. Internet or not. It may not be quite normal, but it's sure as fuck more normal than some little bitch crying about me hurting his feelings with a few words, which are in fact true. People wouldn't get so pissed if they knew I didn't mean it, or that it wasn't true, the reason people get pissed and hurt is because they KNOW they are fucking stupid, and the truth fucking hurts.
So, hate me all you want, I couldn't give a shit less, I won't cry if you don't like me. Some of you though, it seems, DO cry because some random guy online called you a dipshit for posting something so obviously wrong.
And btw, this had nothing to do with MDMA synthesis, it was about the terminology being used. MDA is most certainly NOT fucking sassafrass. That was my point. I don't expect any of you to know the ins and outs of any synth, but I at least expect you to be able to use the proper fucking terminology for a drug you claim to use.
Which brings me to another point. People with no fucking clue about a drug, and what it does have no fucking business using that drug to begin with, and it's dumbfucks like that who contribute to the overall illegalization and regulation of perfectly safe drugs like MDMA.
And MDMA is a PERFECT fucking example. That drug had legitimate uses in therapy, and was going along quite fine until a bunch of dumb fucking faggot raver kids got a hold of it and ruined the whole fucking thing for everyone. Fuck you, you little faggots using the word thizz, and all the other ignorant pop culture bullshit you've forced down the throats of responsible drug users.
I am almost sorta glad the entire MDMA market is fucked, because you little faggots don't fucking deserve something so sacred and magical as pure MDMA, you deserve what you get, PMA and meth cut pills for jacked up prices.
Meanwhile, the people with at least half a fucking brain KNOW what the fuck is up, and know the difference between a good pill and a bad pill, because we've taken the time to do the research, and set aside that BIG fucking twenty bucks for a test kit.
So while all you little faggots are in clubs thizzing and rolling and all that dumb shit on meth and PMA and fucking piperizines and shit, my ass is at home, spending quality time with my wife, on REAL MDMA learning more about ourselves, eachother, and life in general, for a much lower cost, financially, physically, mentally, and spiritually.
Fucking raver faggots.
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#25
 2008-03-22, 21:26
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
One thing to say there... Owned!
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#26
 2008-03-23, 00:19
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
Ok so the mdma is glassy, looks like crushed up crystals, yellow-whitish color.
I only payed $50 for 1.75 grams so im hoping either I have an awsome new hookup or its cut to shit.
when i insufflated the keyer last night it burned like hell for a few minutes then was ok, the taste was nasty.
Ok i think for how much i will do tonight is, at around 10-1030, i will parachute 150ish mg. then depending on how I feel, i will mix in a drink or snort another 50-100 mg
How long do you think this will take to kick in? With past experiences with pure mdma in crystals in gel capsules it took a bit over an hour.
I have never insufflated a decent amount of MDMA while being sober, how long does this way take to kick in?
Also one last question, If i was to measure out doses and pre mix them with a bit of water or juice and store it in a vial, would the MDMA start to break down or will it be as stable as crystal from in my water or juice solution in plastic vials.
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#27
 2008-03-23, 00:23
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
So while all you little faggots are in clubs thizzing and rolling and all that dumb shit on meth and PMA and fucking piperizines and shit, my ass is at home, spending quality time with my wife, on REAL MDMA learning more about ourselves, eachother, and life in general, for a much lower cost, financially, physically, mentally, and spiritually.
Fucking raver faggots.
I agree with your first statement but no need to diss raves, a rave is a place where most at least did a bit of mdma (along with all that other stuff of course) and for those of us without wives to do MDMA and be around people on the same level, listen to music and experience the love together! Peace, Love, Unity, Respect
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#28
 2008-03-23, 02:14
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Re: mdma powder dosages?
and hurt is because they KNOW they are fucking stupid, and the truth fucking hurts.
Which brings me to another point. People with no fucking clue about a drug, and what it does have no fucking business using that drug to begin with, and it's dumbfucks like that who contribute to the overall illegalization and regulation of perfectly safe drugs like MDMA.
And MDMA is a PERFECT fucking example. That drug had legitimate uses in therapy, and was going along quite fine until a bunch of dumb fucking faggot raver kids got a hold of it and ruined the whole fucking thing for everyone. Fuck you, you little faggots using the word thizz, and all the other ignorant pop culture bullshit you've forced down the throats of responsible drug users.
I am almost sorta glad the entire MDMA market is fucked, because you little faggots don't fucking deserve something so sacred and magical as pure MDMA, you deserve what you get, PMA and meth cut pills for jacked up prices.
Meanwhile, the people with at least half a fucking brain KNOW .
hey dumbass ravers didnt make e illegal it was coming years before hand. it was made illegal because bars were selling it to the avg joe on top of therapeutic abuse and because of that they werent drinking!!!! since alcohol lobbyist have alot of power in the govt they didnt want to see sales dive. hypocrite on sources here. i bet the first time you heard this crap about the ravers you believed it. then never took any other info to verify it. e was scheduled well before the rave scene was created. the ravers are a byproduct of the illegalization of e. just like hippies were to mj and just about everything else.
and i see you conviniently avoided my last reply to your chemistry question. you said do you know what it takes to break down safrole. followed with tell me your liver can do that. in response i said my brain can convert 5htp to seretonin and i dont know how to do it in a lab. i was just stating from what i saw it matches some physical effects and the human body can do rather impressive things. chemistry has little to do with physiology. that all i was trying to say. but your anger created your ignorance and lack of common sense. if you didnt flame what was written you couldve saved yourself from being wrong 2x. more wrong once and ignorant the other but whos counting. sucks to be always right.
btw i do respect your knowledge in general but you come off as a prick. your a hypocrite too you get pissed for people asking stuff. this is a forum dont tell me you never in your life asked someone a question? 90% of totseans are kids keep that in mind too. you ever ask an elder a question? you seem like those grizzled old men on snl. i hope you are that old because then at least you have an excuse.
admitting your wrong and that you can be wrong is the first step.
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