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Old 2008-03-22, 00:56
Doctor_Ew420 Doctor_Ew420 is offline
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Default P. Torch, Peyote and other mescaline containing cacti!

As some may know, I have been interested (but unable to find a proper source for) Mescaline, and/or Mescaline containing cacti.

I live in Canada... I am aloud to own both Peyote and P. Torch, even in dried forms, so long as no further preparation has been performed on the cacti matter.

Now... of course I want to do an extraction one day, but since this new source I found (a local shop that specializes in ethnobotanicals) carries powdered P. Torch for $3.00 per gram (not a good price) I wouldn't mind getting a small dose worth the next time I am near the shop.

I have heard P. Torch is stronger than San Pedro... so how many grams of this powder am I going to want to consume.

I figured since I just want to get a general feel for mescaline and the experience, and since I don't want to blow a ton of cash... would 14g of cactus powder do?

Also... They carry live peyote and I want to at least get some babies... the wee ones are $40.00 and the 8 year old peyote are $150.00... so I definately want babies!

If I were to get say... 2 of these babies... would in around 10-15 years I be able to take a real peyote journey??
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Old 2008-03-22, 01:19
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Default Re: P. Torch, Peyote and other mescaline containing cacti!

Don't buy the peyote. Just find another cheaper way to get it that you don't have to wait 10 years for.
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Old 2008-03-22, 01:27
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Default Re: P. Torch, Peyote and other mescaline containing cacti!

10-15 years? not worth it at all.
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Old 2008-03-22, 01:32
Doctor_Ew420 Doctor_Ew420 is offline
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Default Re: P. Torch, Peyote and other mescaline containing cacti!

Quote:
Originally Posted by jenkins
10-15 years? not worth it at all.


You see... I don't mind having a wee little pretty conversation piece of beauty sitting on my window sill... and in 15 years... I would be glad that I did it. It is $40 each! Totally worth it!
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Old 2008-03-22, 01:41
NEPHROSIS NEPHROSIS is offline
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Default Re: P. Torch, Peyote and other mescaline containing cacti!

14? ehh no

Why don't you just look online?
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Old 2008-03-22, 03:18
Chemical Eudaemonia Chemical Eudaemonia is offline
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Default Re: P. Torch, Peyote and other mescaline containing cacti!

p. torch is not stronger than pedro.

it has a narrow but consistant range of alkaloids regardless of the environment. pedro varies a lot more but it's generally more potent if you pick the ripe ones.

some people prefer the p.torch because the alkaloid content is mainly mescaline, rather than the broad spectrum of psychoactive alkaloids present in pedro

you will need at least 30 grams of dried material of either for a trip. 50 is common
 
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