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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2008-03-22, 00:35
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Default What would you like to see in an ethnobotanical shop?

What ethnobotanicals are actually worth the effort to buy wholesale to sell online, in your opion and why?
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Old 2008-03-22, 00:42
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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If you dont live in the US get some ibogaine. Get some khat too. Salvia Datura are strong trips. Kava and Kratom can be relaxing.

If you were starting a store online I'd reccomend these things at least. If your just gunna buy one the ibogaine is something id definetaly check out.
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Old 2008-03-22, 00:44
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blue lotus, salvia, nitrous
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Old 2008-03-22, 01:47
spencetron spencetron is offline
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Default Re: What would you like to see in an ethnobotanical shop?

poppy pods, kratom, kanna, kava, sinichuichi, salvia, dagga, wormwood, lotus, and nitrous if you count it.
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Old 2008-03-22, 04:13
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Default Re: What would you like to see in an ethnobotanical shop?

and nitrous if you count it.


Since when is nitrous an entheogen OR botanical?
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Old 2008-03-22, 04:22
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San Lorenzo
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Since when is nitrous an entheogen OR botanical?

Being an entheogen has nothing to do with the properties of the material, but how it is used.

But good call, it would never be sold on one of those types of sites.
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Old 2008-03-22, 04:27
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^ I know, but I can't imagine nitrous being used as an entheogen unless you were already on MDMA or something...

Confused
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Old 2008-03-22, 04:31
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San Lorenzo
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Maybe thats why it depends so much on how the person uses it.
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Old 2008-03-22, 05:17
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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Default Re: What would you like to see in an ethnobotanical shop?

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Originally Posted by Obbe
Maybe thats why it depends so much on how the person uses it.


to make whipped cream of-course Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

cant forget that

(marijuana + warm heavy cream)

+

blender

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cheese cloth

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N2O

=

Some really nice green cream.

a waste of weed though.... a fancy delicacy no doubt.
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Old 2008-03-22, 05:58
cRoN_ICE2 cRoN_ICE2 is offline
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I just badly want a place that is willing to ship a live salvia plant to Canada.
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Old 2008-03-22, 06:12
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What ethnobotanicals are actually worth the effort to buy wholesale to sell online, in your opion and why?


i would like to see totse without you
 #12 
Old 2008-03-22, 06:34
plainclothescop plainclothescop is offline
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i would like to see totse without you
QFT

Every post I see him make screams "spoilt rich kid who thinks he's hard."
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Old 2008-03-22, 06:50
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My problem w/ the first few posts of shit like "blue lotus" and w/e...

Is that even legit? Only a very VERY small amount of people say it is, everyone else who has done it says its bullshit.

Its either that those small amount of people are using it correctly

or

Those small amount of people are faggots buzzing off placeabos.

I think the latter..

I only want the solid.
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Old 2008-03-22, 07:01
Ave2 Ave2 is offline
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My problem w/ the first few posts of shit like "blue lotus" and w/e...

Is that even legit? Only a very VERY small amount of people say it is, everyone else who has done it says its bullshit.

Its either that those small amount of people are using it correctly

or

Those small amount of people are faggots buzzing off placeabos.

I think the latter..

I only want the solid.


blue lotus works, i use it in the secondary stage of wine fermentation in smaller 1 gallon batches.

It is just FUCKING EXPENSIVE.

no, not the gay blue-lilly, no not the gay foliage. But the actual petals!
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Old 2008-03-22, 09:14
Fear and Loathing Fear and Loathing is offline
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I just badly want a place that is willing to ship a live salvia plant to Canada.Dude your fucking lucky, at least you can get Salvia in Canada. It's fucking illegal in Australia. Can't buy it, can't get it shipped in, can't even get the seeds to grow the shit. On that note, would anyone know of anyway to gget salvia in, or to Australia? I think iamshaman or one of those places says explicitly "DOES NOT SHIP PRODUCT TO AUSTRALIA" when in referance to Salvia. Would any other ethnobotanical sites ship it in and possibly fluke it through customs?



Fear and Loathing
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Old 2008-03-22, 09:30
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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it doesnt matter what works. if you're setting up shop all that matters is: what can i sell?

so find the most commonly purchased drugs online, that are legal in you're area, buy them in bulk (hundreds of pounds) and sell them in smaller amounts. if they already sell from other sites then they'll sell from yours and you make money.
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Old 2008-03-22, 10:21
42Oinchrims 42Oinchrims is offline
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Default Re: What would you like to see in an ethnobotanical shop?

Breed some bufo's, BBB's are too fucking expensive, they are monopolizing the online trade of the toad. THeir rare i think cause idiots were killing the toad to get high off of it instead of letting it live and milking it monthly. Whatever im still dishing out 150$ for one.
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Old 2008-03-22, 16:39
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I'm not necessarily starting this for the money, yes that is nice but I am in love w/ chemical love and that is about a million times moar imporant to me then making bank.

My main concern is getting others high. I don't want to be selling bullshit plants that do not work. If I know that people are getting fucked up for cheap, that will satisfy me.
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Old 2008-03-22, 17:36
Naminator01 Naminator01 is offline
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Breed some bufo's, BBB's are too fucking expensive, they are monopolizing the online trade of the toad. THeir rare i think cause idiots were killing the toad to get high off of it instead of letting it live and milking it monthly. Whatever im still dishing out 150$ for one.


Don't dumbass, you don't know how to take care of it.
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Old 2008-03-22, 17:51
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San Lorenzo
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My main concern is getting others high. If I know that people are getting fucked up for cheap, that will satisfy me.

Then why sell people entheogens? Why not just sell some illegal drugs?

They're a lot better at fucking people up, which is pretty much all the consumer market is concerned with nowadays. You would make a lot more money. Your customers would be a lot more satisfied. It would be much easier to organize.

If you want to become a provider of plants for the people who like to get fucked up, don't sell entheogens. First, you don't seem to really care or believe the reasons people use them that way, or why they even bother to call them entheogens. Second, neither do the people who just want to get fucked up ... they expect it to be like a legal versions of street drugs, and are disappointed when they find out otherwise.

It just seems like becoming an actual drug dealer would make more sense.
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Old 2008-03-22, 19:08
monks3080 monks3080 is offline
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Then why sell people entheogens? Why not just sell some illegal drugs?

They're a lot better at fucking people up, which is pretty much all the consumer market is concerned with nowadays. You would make a lot more money. Your customers would be a lot more satisfied. It would be much easier to organize.

If you want to become a provider of plants for the people who like to get fucked up, don't sell entheogens. First, you don't seem to really care or believe the reasons people use them that way, or why they even bother to call them entheogens. Second, neither do the people who just want to get fucked up ... they expect it to be like a legal versions of street drugs, and are disappointed when they find out otherwise.

It just seems like becoming an actual drug dealer would make more sense.

Being an actual drug dealer may have a higher profit, but carries the risk of being arrested while selling entheogens will be legal and a sort of on the side job, making a smaller profit with absolutely no risk.
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Old 2008-03-22, 19:20
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hawaiian baby woodrose, some sort of mescaline, kratom, salvia divinorum, khat, ibogaine, nitrous oxide, alkyl nitrites, wormwood, kava, blue lotus, amanita muscaria, wild lettuce, dxm, whatever 2-Cx's are legal nowadays.
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Old 2008-03-22, 20:58
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Default Re: What would you like to see in an ethnobotanical shop?

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Breed some bufo's, BBB's are too fucking expensive, they are monopolizing the online trade of the toad. THeir rare i think cause idiots were killing the toad to get high off of it instead of letting it live and milking it monthly. Whatever im still dishing out 150$ for one.


dude, you can get a gram of Bufo for about $150. It's synthetic too, so no toads are killed.
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Old 2008-03-22, 21:18
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Me and another totse member were talking about setting up an online ethanobotanic shop and we had things pretty worked out. The main problem I never looked into behind this was the whole insurance and legality's behind it... I'm pretty sure even with legal substances it takes more than just a legal disclaimer to cover you if someone does something stupid, gets hurt or dies after consuming your products... It may not happen but its still a possibility and you have to take into account the stupidity of most of your customers when it comes to using drugs.
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Old 2008-03-22, 23:56
TheSexyBeast821 TheSexyBeast821 is offline
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Default Re: What would you like to see in an ethnobotanical shop?

Peruvian Torch, San Pedro, and DMT supplies.
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Old 2008-03-23, 00:16
Aces N 8S Aces N 8S is offline
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Me and another totse member were talking about setting up an online ethanobotanic shop and we had things pretty worked out. The main problem I never looked into behind this was the whole insurance and legality's behind it... I'm pretty sure even with legal substances it takes more than just a legal disclaimer to cover you if someone does something stupid, gets hurt or dies after consuming your products... It may not happen but its still a possibility and you have to take into account the stupidity of most of your customers when it comes to using drugs.


you'd have to consult an attorney and it wouldnt hurt to officiallty incorporate your business. all part of the initial investment.
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Old 2008-03-23, 01:17
spencetron spencetron is offline
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Default Re: What would you like to see in an ethnobotanical shop?

Since when is nitrous an entheogen OR botanical?

I didnt say it was. The question the thread is about is what I would like to see in an ethnobotanical SHOP. The OP did not specify that what I would like to see in a shop must be a entheogen or botanical.
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Old 2008-03-23, 16:05
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Ya, I don't really give a fuck what is in the shop, as long as it gets people intoxicated and is legal.

OBBE: I do sell 2c-e, but to be honest I am a shitty drug dealer. I ALWAYS use moar of my supplies, luckily 2ce has such a market I was able to make twice my money back, so it didn't matter.

Options: (I only want those that work)

Salvia Divinorum
Kratom
Mescaline Cactus (How easy are these to grow? I would think that growing my own shit would be moar cost effective then whole sailing, but I don't know.)
DMT plants (Same question as above)
Poppy seeds (If I start growing I could do poppy pods)
HBWR (Are these easy to grow? I just ordered 50 along w/ a kilo of salvia (for extractions), the reason I bought this was to trip but if I can grow some shit from it that's legit..)
DXM powder
N2O
Nitrites
BBBs


What is your opinion on:
kanna, kava, sinichuichi, dagga, wormwood, and lotus?
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Old 2008-03-23, 20:42
Internet-Weed-Dude Internet-Weed-Dude is offline
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what is 2c-e? i've heard about it lots of times on here but never heard of it in real life..
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Old 2008-03-23, 21:53
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NJ
Default Re: What would you like to see in an ethnobotanical shop?

What is your opinion on:
kanna, kava, sinichuichi, dagga, wormwood, and lotus?

kava, wormwood, and lotus are the only ones worthwhile
 
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